1 month ago
Okay then I'll clarify my statement: if you have a legally binding judgment against BIG Player there is no reason for a settlement ??
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Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 124)
1 month ago
No, not really, but it's only the funds deposited with those banks that are already executing. Everyone else could never see the money again due to insolvency.
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1 month ago
Tipico is offering a settlement of xx.xxx € as a goodwill payment for my losses!
Hello
On April 30, 2025, I submitted a sample request for data disclosure to Bet365 and Tipico. It only concerns sports betting.
Since then, I've basically just been going around in circles with Bet365. They keep me waiting, and I constantly have to verify my identity, etc.
Tipico made me a settlement offer with a goodwill payment of xx.xxx € in order to reach an out-of-court settlement. I would like to make a counter-offer. How much would be reasonable? Tipico has not yet given me my information, so I do not know my total loss. Has anyone had similar experiences with Tipico? What % of the loss is a goodwill payment like this? I have absolutely no idea how much money I have lost. If Tipico offers me xx.xxx euros as a settlement payment of its own accord, that is already a basis for my counter-offer. In the email, Tipico wrote to me that they consider an out-of-court settlement to be sensible in my particular case and that they do not want to lose me as a customer. I do not know whether Tipico will accept my counter-offer of xxxxx € or not. Please give me some advice. What would be a realistic amount to make as a counter-offer? If anyone has already had a similar experience with Tipico, I would be very grateful for constructive advice.
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1 month ago
I would advise you to delete the amount here. It's best to check your online banking or, if necessary, request statements from your bank. They usually only offer 5-10% of the damage amount. Don't stress yourself out and don't accept it too quickly. And the fact that they do something like that says it all.
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1 month ago
I'll make a counteroffer tomorrow, five times the amount. If Tipico accepts it, I'll accept the settlement. Otherwise, I'll take legal action. Is there anyone here in the forum who's had a similar experience?
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1 month ago
So go ahead and start with 70%. Between 50-60% would be fine if you don't know how much you've lost. But as my colleague said, 5-10% definitely makes up the smallest part of your losses. If you don't want to wait, or wait for the GDPR to come into effect, and don't want to go through your credit cards or your account, you won't be able to prove how much you really lost. This won't go well in court, because the judge will definitely ask you if you have any receipts. So take your time and go through everything, and I think the GDPR has to be there no later than 30 days after you apply, otherwise you can sue them for it, usually for a minimum of 4,000 euros.
Good luck to you.
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1 month ago
Tipico is currently playing poker... they've given me a one-week deadline to sign the settlement offer and made it clear to me that I'll come up with a counteroffer. The GDPR is very comprehensive, and extracting everything would take a long time, so they've extended the deadline by two months. They're legally allowed to do that.
I have to make a counteroffer without having seen the GDPR. Therefore, it would be very helpful if someone could give me a rough idea. TIPICO writes in the email that, especially in my case, it's worth settling outside of court and specifies a price of 10,000. What should I do?
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1 month ago
As I said, you have a week to sort everything out. Search your online banking for tipico; you might be able to get a breakdown from the bank. Note the deposit minus the withdrawal. Assume they'll only offer you a fraction of that.
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1 month ago
Hello—I've heard that Pstars offers comparison offers, but I can't believe it. Does anyone know more or better information? Thanks!
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1 month ago
25% offer them, but no more.
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1 month ago
50-60% of something is ok? ??
It's nonsense to throw around random percentages. It would make sense to wait and see how high the losses are first; they have 30 days to do that. I wouldn't accept or reject anything before then.
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1 month ago
The thing is, the two above don't even know how high the losses are until they can see/receive the transaction list. Therefore, you should compile your past deposits as best you can. But don't expect offers of more than 30% of the loss. Apart from that, you should consider why the providers are doing this. It's just a game of time. So, stay calm and insist on the list, and if necessary, file a lawsuit.
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1 month ago
I would like to add the following.
Before 2021, the so-called Tipico customer cards/shop cards were linked to the online account. Deposits and withdrawals were made in the shop, but you could play online using your smartphone.
After the license was valid, i.e., after October 2020, the maximum Lugas limit was not adhered to in my case, and I was able to gamble more than the permitted €1,000 both online and offline, i.e., in stores, with my customer card. At no point was there any review of my finances that would justify a limit increase.
Therefore, I can only roughly estimate the losses I've incurred to date. I've already requested information in accordance with GDPR. Due to the large amount of data involved, Tipico wrote to me stating that the information will be delayed for two months.
In this regard, Tipico contacted me by email and offered me a goodwill payment of ××.×××€ for an out-of-court settlement. I was given a week to make a decision. While I haven't received any information yet, I know the approximate size of my losses. I wrote to them that I would be interested in a settlement in principle, but that the goodwill payment offered in no way compensated for my unjustly incurred betting losses.
I have given them a deadline to make me a significantly better offer without naming a sum, and if the sum is right then I will settle with them out of court.
If they don't accommodate me, I'll wait for the information and pursue legal action, no matter how long it takes. And I'll see it through to a verdict and not enter into any further settlements.
I will cover the costs myself without any financing.
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1 month ago
Only in Germany
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4 weeks ago
A new video from Staudt Attorneys at Law
https://youtu.be/00T9nHXC4o0?si=7WQn19c08SYb9nMo
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4 weeks ago
I told you… the liquidations….
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4 weeks ago
It can't be that easy to switch companies and get away with it? I can't imagine it being that simple, no matter how hard I try. The question has to be asked: what happened to the assets and the money? Especially since Bet365 is part of the bet365 group.
Instead, I expect that they'll soon begin offering settlements to the plaintiffs. The amount, and everything else, is, of course, up in the air.
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4 weeks ago
Things are still looking pretty bad for PokerStars at the moment. In Austria, nothing is being compared, and the executions are worthless. You can hang it on your wall.
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