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Execution Pokerstars. Apparently, payment is not voluntary (page 120)

3 years ago by marketingskislo
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Baker3xx
2 months ago

But the casinos will probably understand the message behind the applications... maybe some will be more cooperative than before

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harryhugo1982
2 months ago

Do we already know which direction this is going? Was the negotiation good for consumers or more for the casinos?

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2 months ago

From the way the article reads, one couldn't tell in which direction it would go, but if you ask for my feeling, I have a rather bad feeling about the "fake procedure"

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Baker3xx
2 months ago

Where can I read the article?


well then it would be finally clear that they are all being bribed haha

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2 months ago

Nevertheless, based on the date of the final submissions, one can say that this is another small "partial success" for the casino operators.

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Baker3xx
2 months ago

I'm very sure the decision will be in favor of the players! Fundraising agencies have advanced millions of euros in court costs and are still accepting cases. No one would do this if they weren't 100 percent convinced of success.

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Baker3xx
2 months ago

I don't understand it. All the law firms spread optimism and talk about the patience that one should have, and then somehow everything doesn't turn out that way...

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harryhugo1982
2 months ago

Information from the negotiations would be very interesting in order to be able to form your own opinion

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voizua92
2 months ago

The lawyers just want what's best for you...your money

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2 months ago

My theory is, and many people agree, hence the accusation of a "fake procedure":

(Related to Mercedes diesel scandal)

The final submissions are sent to us. Then they are published sometime in the fall/winter deadline. Then the lawsuit is unexpectedly withdrawn. Then the proceedings were rigged for 2.5-3 years, gaining time.

Then everything is up in the air again and there is no judgment even though it looks very good for us.

The closing arguments were also very favorable for the plaintiffs. Then Mercedes reached an agreement with the plaintiffs...that's how civil proceedings work!

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voizua92
2 months ago

I still believe that the final opinion will be positive for the consumer, but as already written above, it is quite possible that the action will be withdrawn (since it was fictitious by Malta).


In my opinion, this is the only reason why Malta has asked questions to the ECJ on the basis of this particular case.


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Baker3xx
2 months ago

Can't the ECJ refuse to withdraw a decision if the interests of other member states are at stake? Is there evidence of fabrication?

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harryhugo1982
2 months ago

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Yes, in principle, an action can be withdrawn, even if other Member States are affected – but the ECJ can still pursue the case if it considers this necessary.

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Baker3xx
2 months ago

Which lawsuit should be withdrawn, especially if it was staged to gain time?

How does this affect executions in Malta? If freedom to provide services is no longer an argument, then Bill 55 would automatically be repealed in the near future, right?

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2 months ago

Constantly checking my posts. Totally annoying...

Yes, it is possible, but the ECJ can still pursue the case if it considers it necessary

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2 months ago

You could refer people here to the BGH thread, you already posted it there.

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voizua92
2 months ago

The German lawyer who bought back the players' claims and then independently sought to sue for the claim in a court in Malta. Based on this claim, the Maltese court referred the questions to the European Court of Justice. Therefore, all lawyers believe that this approach represents a sound procedure to gain even more time for the casinos.

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Nichtmitmir
2 months ago

I don't know if that's allowed, so I'm trying to share the information here. Please excuse me.

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Nichtmitmir
2 months ago

Where can you see it?

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2 months ago

Yes, I see, you're right. I didn't think about it.

I think many people here aren't ready for "over there" yet. ????

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