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Good evening all,
I have followed this thread a while and want to put my story across and what is now happening.
I've also been scammed by the following and scammed as saying it's not a fair playing field.
jettbet
Donbet
Mystake
Goldenbet
Which are all the same mob of crooks.
I was on GamStop for 5 years and about 12 months ago I started using these (stupidly)
I even won £150,000 off one of them, to never see the money return to me and they banned me saying I had broken their terms and conditions (all on live chat) so never saw my winnings.
Another one I won 50,000 Euro to be told I can take out 2000 Euro a week! I'd spent more than that in that week! Serious scam artists the above and more. Many will have had 'Tom' messaging and calling them like I have.
So it's time for me to fight back also. I have worked out this weekend since 9 months ago I've paid them 144 transactions totalling £51,786.20p through the following 3rd party payment providers as follows and this is my Revolut account, I've not even gone to HSBC yet....
Skinsolny
Intergrated payment solution
Mastertools
Zamtransact services ltd
Deposit By Crypto
Hashbon react
PI Performance
Cybvx
Inteus
Dns
Terrvers
Clmnt
TopUp.com
Swipez
Rodeo Cay Enterprises
Fundof
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Zanti Mergem Innovatio
Collective Security Treaty Organization
Game Way
Bitsent
I have disputed the transactions on the Revolut app and more and more keep coming back as either
Declined because I used the app to confirm the transactions or cancelled because I have not proven contacting the merchant.
Some are still in the air as pending.
I have contacted the Financial Ombudsman today to get the ball rolling on that side because Revolut say the rejections are final declined.
Here is the txt I put into the submission to the Financial Ombudsman
'I have had a problem with gambling since a young age and have battled it all my life.
I was self excluded from online gaming however I kept seeing online adverts for casinos that got around the GameStop self exclusion and began to use them late last year that has run me up £ 51,786.20p in losses.
They use third party payment processors to get around the Revolut gambling block and also around Gamstop.
The sites are as follows
Jettbet
Mystake
Donbet
Goldenbet
They are all the same people.
I have requested time and time again to self exclude me from those sites and they do not listen and just put bonuses in the account.
The communication with them is always on their live chat service.
I even won £150,000 on one of the sites (mystake) they just closed my account and live chat said I had broken their terms and conditions therefore my winnings are forfeited and the account is closed. Everything with them is live chat.
I have researched into this and they are breaking the visa and Mastercard rules by using different codes for payments using these third parties as payment. Shell companies
This is all a complete scam.
I have tried to charge back with Revolut (please see email they sent me) and they are refusing to.
At no point since opening my Revolut account have they questioned these transactions or such spending. Live chat is turned off on my account and I cannot even speak to anyone at Revolut regarding this.
A good friend of mine who is a Lawyer has advised me to contact yourselves as the transactions are fraudulent and Revolut should have questioned at least what was going on.
I also has their gambling lock on at this time,
You cannot win off these casinos because they will not pay you.
They have no license and again are breaking the law by bypassing the payment systems.
I have included the Revolut statement, all the transactions are those which are for $ € and some are for £
It’s clear to see which ones they are.'
And included my Revolut statement.
THIS is a very interesting article written 25th April this year....
What Neobanks and Payment Providers Must Do
It’s not optional — it’s mandatory:
Identify and block payments to illegal gambling merchants
Monitor customer behavior for risky patterns
Report suspicious activities immediately
Terminate relationships with clients who abuse your platform
Automated MCC (Merchant Category Code) checks aren’t enough anymore. Sophisticated fraudsters disguise their operations. If your compliance systems can’t detect them, your entire platform is exposed.
I am not against legitimate gambling sites, I've come off Gamstop and use Kwiff now, which is a level playing field and a good site and service!
These cockroaches are not legitimate and you will never win.
I have then emailed Revolut on both contact and complaints this email
'Dear Revolut,
I hope this email finds you well.
Live chat does not seem to be working on my application so this is the only way I thought to speak with yourselves.
I have been the victim of scam Casinos that are illegal and based off South America that are not licenced.
The payments I have made are through my Revolut account to the sum of £51,786.20p with 144 transactions to 21 third party fake companies to bypass what they are doing. The list is enclosed with this email of the ‘merchants’
I have initiated chargebacks on nearly all of these transactions I believe however I keep getting emails saying ‘dispute declined’ and case closed basically.
I have also touched base with the Financial Ombudsman today also please see the initial web submission form I filled in enclosed also.
Using third party to process these transactions is illegal, the sites are illegal and unlicensed and therefore I should be protected under the chargeback imitation.
Furthermore Revolut have never once questioned these payments I have been making (which are a lot)
I would like chargebacks to be initiated on all of those payments to third party processors listed.
I don’t want to have the Financial Ombudsman to sort this out I’d rather you did however I’ve set that in motion also and they have the lists and statements you do now.
Please see this recent article from the end of April https://www.finextra.com/blogposting/28365/neobanks-pay-attention-illegal-gambling-payments-could-sink-you which clarifies what I am saying.
If the transactions are charged back and refunded to my account no other action is necessary.
I have spoken to a Lawyer a good friend of mine who is advising me on this matter and has advised me that these illegal gambling websites are also funding crime and terrorism.
I hope this situation can be resolved amicably and as soon as possible.
Kind Regards'
Hi bud you can do a complaint on here to get your £150000 paid out if your in the right you will get it they are pretty good or use casinomeister PAB(pitch a bitch) complaint you will not get far with Revolut I have took my case to the FOS due to rejection of chargebacks
Hi Paul,
No chance I tried, they won't pay you out that sort of amount and just ban you.
This mob are running the sites completely illegally.
So I want my money back now.
And I shall get it also.
And hopefully my claim helps others.
Ok but this site acts as a support between you and the casino and it gets blacklisted if they do not pay out the thing is the sites you mention have a low weekly/monthly withdrawal limit as well I know its easy to get caught up ive been there myself but they can say we are only paying under the terms
Paul, you simply cannot win with them. That is the way they set the whole thing up.
Everyone's claims on here against these sites are 100% valid
I've never gone into the BetFred shop asking for my money back put it that way.
Never would claim against Kwiff they pay out within minutes if not it's next day with no restrictions.
These CRIMINALS are money laundering, scamming people and praying on vulnerable people.
And it's correct that these people including myself fight back.
Yes it is but some banks are making it hard to do it I only have about £1500 to chase 4 transactions but when I try online the bank rejects them saying to call them as ive done too many will sort it eventually..
mention it's funding terrorism and international crime.....
What financial institution what's that on their name
There's no actual proof of that tho they always ask for evidence I'm one who has lost out because my bank have said I have no grounds as I got coin in exchange for my money even tho I explained everything thats wrong with it they don't care. Now my chargeback time has ended it's almost like they were pissing about sending letters and more evidence needed every time I tried a different approach I was told basically to do one. I still have time for fos just I feel so let down and heard they are no help at all so is there any point.
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