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3 years ago by marketingskislo
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2 weeks ago

Malta has two months to respond, what does it take two months for?

After that, it will probably take several more months.

I'll be very happy if I get my money back this year.

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2 weeks ago

The MGA statement is cheeky

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2 weeks ago

I have 3 complaints.

Tipico, Bet365 and Pokerstars and unfortunately none of them have given me my money, even though it has been running since January 2023.

The total is also a 6-digit amount ??

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Cupiruler
2 weeks ago

Well, if you're getting it back this year anyway, why are you getting upset?

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2 weeks ago

This is very good for all of us who are waiting for our money, the negative thing is that an infringement procedure can take 2 years??

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Cupiruler
2 weeks ago

Many others have been waiting for 4-5 years despite the verdict and execution order

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2 weeks ago

I've been waiting for Pokerstars for 6 years, but I still don't think it can happen quickly.

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2 weeks ago

Malta and the MGA are under enormous pressure - no matter what statement they make, it does not change the fact that the EU Commission must be quite certain to conduct such a procedure.


Why should only Malta be right and not the majority of member states?

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harryhugo1982
2 weeks ago

Malta is certainly not in the right, but the question is how they will get the money and whether the courts in Malta will then carry out the execution.

Given how Malta has handled it so far, I can only wonder what they will come up with now and how they will respond to the letter.

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voizua92
2 weeks ago

Well, whatever Malta has to say in its defense is likely to be without substance.


The EU Commission will not take action so easily and will certainly not open infringement proceedings if they are not sure that their opinion is correct

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harryhugo1982
2 weeks ago

Yes, but just read the letter from the MGA.

They really assume they won't pay and deny obvious things. Sick...

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voizua92
2 weeks ago

They can assume whatever they want... if the EU Commission, and in case of doubt the ECJ, declare Bill 55 to be contrary to European law, Malta MUST make a change, as state liability could arise under certain circumstances. And before that happens, they'd rather hand over the casinos to the kingpin.


In about 90% of cases, the Member States follow the Commission’s requests




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harryhugo1982
2 weeks ago

Yes, but if it goes to the European Court of Justice, it will take years. That's a real shame, considering how long these laws were passed. And then so many more will go bankrupt, and then only those with whom the money is deposited in Malta, or those who were among the first to file lawsuits, will get the money anyway.


I know so many people who have a judgment but don't even have a legal order for execution. Theoretically, none of them could see any money. Besides, we don't even know if the casinos that have so far will pay and settle.

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voizua92
2 weeks ago

As already mentioned, in over 90% of cases the accused countries do not take legal action before the ECJ.


And as the pressure slowly increases, the Commission will certainly not wait indefinitely to take action.


And even Malta and the casinos located there should come to the realization that they have to find a solution somehow if they don't want to be completely destroyed

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2 weeks ago

I can't imagine that!

Malta must then relent and comply with ALL foreign judgments. That's precisely the crux of the matter. If the ECJ rules that Bill 55 is unlawful (which is where things are headed), Malta must comply with all judgments, not just the enforcement orders. All countries can then invoke the new situation, and Malta will be forced to pay because if it doesn't comply, the EU can impose sanctions on Malta or impose a fine that is definitely higher than the plaintiffs would have to pay.

So let's wait and see how Malta will react to this before everything is painted black again.....


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2 weeks ago

My money has been deposited with the court in Malta for five years now. Let's see how long this venture lasts...

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gtaonlinezocken
2 weeks ago

How long has your execution been going on in Malta? In my case, it's been about 4.5 years in total, including 3 years of execution proceedings in Malta alone.

Sick shit actually, and the worst thing is always when you see the number of your negotiations on the ecourt website. It makes you want to puke.

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voizua92
2 weeks ago

Yes, I feel the same way. These negotiation costs must be crazy.

I've almost given up my faith. We don't hear anything from the PFs anyway.

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gtaonlinezocken
2 weeks ago

Yes, you signed the contract anyway, so it's supposed to stay with the commission and they'll just pay the rest.


That's how the law firm explained it to me.

If you had financed it yourself in Malta and had a lawyer for every appointment, you probably wouldn't have any money left now anyway haha.

Does anyone know if the other side will cover the costs there, as some judgments state that the costs will be shared until further notice?

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2 weeks ago

If the casinos are smart, they will pay directly and not allow thousands of judgments to be executed.


If, as expected, the whole house of cards collapses, the casinos will have to be much more economical with court costs, interest, etc.


There will be an incredible new wave of lawsuits... and then another and another

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