Zdravo.
Samo kratko pitanje: nije li ovo pitanje vi?e povezano sa problemom koji re?avate u beta verziji? Priznajem da ne razumem u potpunosti koga i ?ta pitate u ovoj konkretnoj temi, ali mo?da ?e vas zanimati da je ceo prethodni razgovor ovde ????
U svakom slu?aju, koliko sam shvatio iz va?e ?albe, kazino je licenciran u ?e?koj, uprkos tome ?to ne ?eli da komentari?e ovu stvar, tako da bi bilo dobro da poku?ate da kontaktirate lokalnog regulatora, ali sam pomalo zbunjen da kompanija ve? ima status ?pasivnog regulatora", da li to zna?i da ?e?ka strana nije odgovorila na va? problem? Poenta je da va? problem nema nikakve veze sa kontaktiranjem sada neva?e?e podlicence Antilephone, o ?emu se radi u ovoj temi. U svakom slu?aju, mo?emo razgovarati o detaljima u temi Betano kazina ????
Hi.
Just a quick question: Isn't this question more related to the problem you're solving in Beta? I admit that I don't fully understand who and what you're asking in this particular thread, but you might be interested to know that the entire previous conversation is here ????
Anyway, from what I understand from your complaint, the casino is licensed in the Czech Republic, despite its reluctance to comment on the matter, so it would be a good idea to try contacting the local regulator, but I'm a bit confused that the company already has the status of "passive regulator", does this mean that the Czech side did not respond to your problem? The point is that your problem has nothing to do with contacting the now invalid Antillephone sub-license, which is what this thread is about. Either way, we can discuss the details in the Betano Casino thread ????
Ahoj.
Jen zbě?ny dotaz: Nesouvisí tahle otázka spí?e s problémem, ktery ?e?í? v Betanu? P?iznám se, ?e te? úplně nerozumím koho a na co se ptá? v tomto konkrétním vlákně, ale mo?ná by Tě zajímalo, ?e celá p?edchozí konverzace je tady ????
Ka?dopádně, co jsem z Tvé stí?nosti pochopila, tak kasino je i p?es svou neochotu se k věci vyjád?it, licencované v ?esku, tak?e by bylo dobré se zkusit obrátit na tamněj?ího regulátora, trochu mě ov?em mate, ?e u? nyní má ta sní?nost status "pasivní regulátor", znamená to, ?e ?eská strana na Tv?j problém nereagovala? Pointou je, ?e Tv?j problém nemá nic spole?ného s kontaktováním ji? neplatné Antillephone sub-licence, o které je právě toto vlákno. Tak ?i onak, detaily m??eme probrat ve vlákně Betano Casina ????
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Ne gubite vreme sa CasinoGuru! Oni su kao ilegalni operateri... nikada vam ne?e pomo?i. U stvari, ?ak ?e vas obeshrabriti i re?i da niste u pravu. Na?alost, ve? je vi?e nego dokazano da je CasinoGuru samo jo? jedan sajt koji finansira mafija za kockanje na mre?i ??
Don't waste your time with CasinoGuru! They are like the illegal operators... they will never help you. In fact, they'll even discourage you and tell you that you're not right. Unfortunately, it's already more than proven that CasinoGuru is just another site funded by the online gambling mafia ??
N?o percam o vosso tempo com o CasinoGuru! Est?o feito com os operadores ilegais… nunca vos ir?o ajudar. Aliás até vos ir?o desencorajar e dizer que vocês n?o têm raz?o. Infelizmente já está mais do que provado que o CasinoGuru n?o passa de outro site financiado pela máfia do jogo online ??
Da li biste bili otvoreni da podelite ono ?to ste poslali u kazino?
Would you be open to sharing what you sent to the casino?
Hej, Joao..
Iako svakako imate pravo na svoje mi?ljenje, mislim da nije fer klevetati Gurua na njegovom sajtu.
Da li su neke od va?ih zabrinutosti opravdane? Apsolutno, i potpuno se sla?em sa nekim - ako ne i sa ve?inom - onoga ?to ste rekli. I ja sam ovde vi?e puta u?utkan.
Imaju?i to u vidu, Casino Guru (kao i ve?ina pridru?enih sajtova) pru?a vrednu uslugu nekim ljudima koji mo?da nemaju vremena, posve?enosti ili ?elje da sami tra?e re?enje.
Guruova baza podataka je tako?e verovatno najve?a kolekcija kazina i bonusa koje ?ete na?i. Iako nisu uvek 100% ta?ni, morate ceniti posao koji tim ula?e kako bi nadgledao bezbroj pritu?bi, recenzija, komentara itd. Imaju te?ak posao da urade.
Iako je Casino Guru svakako u tome da zaradi novac ovih dana, sumnjam da je tako po?elo. Ali popularnost sajta je zahtevala da se anga?uje osoblje koje treba da bude pla?eno.. i tada ste suo?eni sa moralnom dilemom.
Mnogo sam puta razmi?ljao o pokretanju ?po?tene, nepristrasne" stranice za pregled, ali ?ak ni ja ne mogu sa sigurno??u da ka?em koje bih izbore napravio u takvim situacijama.
Hey, Joao..
While you are certainly entitled to your opinions, I don't think it's fair to slander the Guru on his own site.
Are some of your concerns valid? Absolutely, and I completely agree on some - if not most - of what you've said. I, too, have been silenced more than a few times here.
This being said, Casino Guru (like most affiliate sites) does provide a valuable service to some people who may not have the time, dedication, or desire to pursue resolution on their own.
Guru's database is also probably the largest collection of casinos and bonuses that'll you'll find. While they're not always 100% accurate, you gotta appreciate the work the team puts in to monitor the countless complaints, reviews, comments, etc. They've got a tough job to do.
While Casino Guru is certainly in this to make money these days, I highly doubt it started out that way. But the popularity of the site necessitated the hiring is staff who need to be paid.. and that's when you're faced with a moral dilemma.
I've thought many times about starting an "honest, unbiased" review site, but even I can't say for certain what choices I'd make in situations like that.
Mislim da se trudimo da sve radimo po?teno i po?teno. Neke odluke mo?da ne?e biti po volji igra?ima, ne?to nije u na?oj nadle?nosti da re?avamo i tako dalje. Ali svakako nikada ne poku?avamo da u?utkamo bilo koga ili ne?to sli?no. Uvek je jasno obja?njeno za?to se ne?to odbija, za?to smo na strani igra?a i tako dalje. Da smo sve hteli da radimo za novac, onda ne bismo imali nikakav centar za re?avanje. Pomogli smo igra?ima da vrate vi?e od 38 miliona, ?to mislim da uop?te nije malo.
Neke odluke su te?ke i imamo zajedni?ke sastanke na kojima razgovaramo o pojedina?nim problemima. Nikada se ne de?ava da se neko odlu?i i primeni na osnovu nulte logike.
Kada su informacije u pitanju, tako?e se trudimo da budu ta?ne i uvek a?urne. Kazina menjaju svoje bonuse, uslove i razne druge stvari. Tako?e, dolazi mnogo kazina koji su nam nepoznati i moramo ih pregledati. Danas nije tako te?ko uspostaviti onlajn kazino, a tako?e i kazino koji je po?ten, ali i prevara. Trudimo se da damo najbolje ?to mo?emo i svakako da pobolj?amo na?u praksu. Ali dok ne prona?emo ne?to ?to bolje funkcioni?e u nekim oblastima, onda se dr?imo onoga ?to imamo.
Danas je te?ko sve zadr?ati kao nekada. Danas je Casino Guru mnogo ve?i nego ?to je bio. Postoji nekoliko hiljada ?albi mese?no, kao i igra?i koji doprinose forumu ili dolaze da pogledaju na? sajt.
Ali nikada ne poku?avamo da budemo nepravedni prema igra?ima ili kazinima kada procenimo da je neko u pravu.
To je samo mali dodatak va?em postu.
ugodan dan. ??
I think we try to do everything fair and square. Some decisions may not be to the players' liking, something is not in our competence to solve and so on. But we certainly never try to silence anybody or anything like that. It is always clearly explained why something is rejected, why we are on the player's side and so on. If we wanted to do everything for money, then we wouldn't have any resolution center. We have helped players to get back more than 38 million, which I don't think is very little at all.
Some decisions are difficult and we have joint meetings where we talk about individual problems. It is never the case that somebody makes up their mind and applies it on the basis of zero logic.
When it comes to information, we also try to keep it accurate and always up to date. Casinos change their bonuses, terms and various other things. Also, there are a lot of casinos coming up that are unknown to us and we have to review them. Nowadays it is not so difficult to set up an online casino and also a casino that is honest but also a scam. We are trying to do the best we can and certainly to improve our practices as well. But until we find something that works better in some areas, then we stick with what we have.
Today it is difficult to keep everything as it was in the past. Today Casino Guru is much bigger than it used to be. There are several thousand complaints a month, as well as players who contribute to the forum or come to check out our site.
But we never try to be unfair to players or to casinos when we evaluate someone is right.
That's just small addition to your post.
Have a nice day. ??
zdravo svima,
?eleo bih da podelim neke uvide nakon sedam godina pomaganja u zahtevima za povra?aj novca protiv kockarnica.
Sa velikim iskustvom u ovoj oblasti, uklju?uju?i iskustvo kao slu?benik za uskla?enost u kazinu, stekao sam dubinsko znanje o procesima refundiranja. Ako imate bilo kakvih pitanja ili biste ?eleli da istra?ite svoje mogu?nosti za potencijalni povra?aj novca, slobodno me kontaktirajte na C .
Imaju?i to u vidu, moja primarna preporuka je da u potpunosti prestanete sa kockanjem i smatrate da su sva izgubljena sredstva nepovratna. Kockanje nikada ne bi trebalo da se bavi sa o?ekivanjem povrata novca. Ne podr?avam i ne promovi?em kockanje na bilo koji na?in, jer velika ve?ina igra?a neizbe?no ima gubitke.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Simon
Hello everyone,
I would like to share some insights after seven years of assisting with refund claims against gambling casinos.
With extensive experience in this field, including a background as a compliance officer at a casino, I have developed in-depth knowledge of refund processes. If you have any questions or would like to explore your options for a potential refund, feel free to contact me at [email protected].
That being said, my primary recommendation is to cease gambling entirely and consider any lost funds as unrecoverable. Gambling should never be pursued with the expectation of obtaining a refund. I do not endorse or promote gambling in any way, as the vast majority of players inevitably incur losses.
Best regards,
Simon
Igrajte igre ulaganjem novca i za?to se tra?i depozit za povla?enje, la?na je aplikacija, kako ?e se novac povu?i
Play games by investing money and why is it asking for deposit for withdrawal, it is a fake app, how will the money be withdrawn
Paisa dal ke game khelo or widrowal ke liye diposit kyu mang raha h fake app h paise kese widrowal hoga
Imam problem sa housebets.com, na?alost ne prikazuje se na CasinoGuro-u ni AskGamblers-u da se ?ale javnosti. Postavio sam ga na Trustpilot i Bitcointalk samo do sada. Imate li jo? neku ideju kako da ih razotkrim? Hvala
I have an issue with housebets.com, unfortunatly it doesn't show on CasinoGuro neither AskGamblers to make a public complaint. I posted it on Trustpilot and Bitcointalk only so far. Do you have any other idea how can I expose them? Thanks
Igrajte igre ulaganjem novca i za?to se tra?i depozit za povla?enje, la?na je aplikacija, kako ?e se novac povu?i
Play games by investing money and why is it asking for deposit for withdrawal, it is a fake app, how will the money be withdrawn
Paisa dal ke game khelo or widrowal ke liye diposit kyu mang raha h fake app h paise kese widrowal hoga
Imam problem sa housebets.com, na?alost ne prikazuje se na CasinoGuro-u ni AskGamblers-u da se ?ale javnosti. Postavio sam ga na Trustpilot i Bitcointalk samo do sada. Imate li jo? neku ideju kako da ih razotkrim? Hvala
I have an issue with housebets.com, unfortunatly it doesn't show on CasinoGuro neither AskGamblers to make a public complaint. I posted it on Trustpilot and Bitcointalk only so far. Do you have any other idea how can I expose them? Thanks
Ve? sam obavestio na? tim za podatke u vezi sa ovim kazinom, tako da se nadamo da ?emo uskoro imati neka a?uriranja.
Mogu li da pitam kakav problem imate?
I have already informed our data team regarding this casino, so hopefully soon we'll have some updates.
May I ask what kind of issue do you experience, though?
Zdravo Romi! hvala ?to ste mi odgovorili! da Napravio sam ovu temu Po?etna > Forum > Rasprava o ?albama >Housebets | Bridge Technologies BV | Prevara preko 9.000$
Javite mi ako nameravate da to objasnim i ovde. Koliko god da sam sada fer, ku?ne opklade su sada samo "regulisane" za GCB a ne vi?e za Antilephone
Hi Romi! thanks for replying me! yes I created this topic Home>Forum>Complaints Discussion>Housebets | Bridge Technologies B.V. | SCAM over 9.000$
Let me know if you intend me to explain it here aswell. As fair as I now housebets is only "regulated" now for GCB and not Antillephone anymore
Imam VELIKI problem sa svakom od ovih virtuelnih blackjack igara koje tvrde da su fer kori??enjem generatora slu?ajnih brojeva... Igrao sam blek d?ek skoro svaki dan ve? 25 godina u realnim fizi?kim kazinima. Igram ove virtuelne stolove vi?e od 5 godina i snimio sam na video nebrojene sate kako igram ove igrice… Verujem da imam dovoljno video dokaza da se kvalifikujem kao stvarni DOKAZ prevare ovih provajdera igara koji tvrde da su dokazivo po?teni kada je realnost da NISU fer…. Ka?u da da bi se slot ma?ina smatrala dokazivo po?tenom, 92% novca ulo?enog u 1.000.000 okretaja mora biti ispla?eno ta?no? Pa to nikako ne mo?e biti ta?no za ove igre blekd?ek generisanih nasumi?nih brojeva koje tako?e tvrde da su verovatno fer i to mogu dokazati van razumne sumnje.. Dakle, sada tra?im agenciju ili advokatsku firmu koja bi bila voljna i sposobna da pogleda kroz moje video dokaze kako bi pokrenula tu?bu protiv ovih kompanija i ako bi one bile spremne da budu moj savetnik. Ovi ljudi ve? godinama varaju i kradu moj novac i bezbroj drugih ljudi i sede iza svojih kompjutera izvla?e?i se sa tim... Ove kukavice moraju odgovarati i privesti pravdi!!
I have a MAJOR issue with every single one of these virtual blackjack games that claim to be fair by using a random number generator… I have been playing blackjack nearly every single day for 25 years in real life physical casinos. i’ve been playing these virtual tables now for over 5 years and i have recorded on video countless hours of myself playing these games… I believe that I have enough video evidence to qualify as actual PROOF of the fraudulence of these game providers who claim to be provably fair when the reality is that they are NOT fair…. They say that in order for a slot machine to be considered provably fair, 92% of the money wagered out 1,000,000 spins needs to be paid out correct? Well that cannot possibly be true for these random number generated blackjack games which also claim to be probably fair and I can prove so beyond a reasonable doubt.. So now I am looking for an agency or law firm who would be willing and able to look through my video evidence to bring forth a lawsuit against these companies and if they’d be willing to be my counsel. These people have been cheating and stealing my money and countless other people for years now and they have been sitting behind their computers getting away with it… These cowards need to be held accountable and brought to justice!!
Pa, vidim da ste ulo?ili prili?no novca u ovu istragu; stoga se nadam da ?ete posti?i svoj krajnji cilj.
Samo da ka?em, slotovi se smatraju vrednim igranja uz stopu RTP-a od 96%. Voleo bih da verujem da slotovi sa RTP 92% i ne postoje, ali ko zna...
Me?utim, kada je u pitanju ishod:
Ako je RTP igre 96%, to zna?i da ako po?nete sa 1.000.000.000 dolara, a zatim igrate 1.000.000.000 rundi po 1 dolar, onda bi trebalo da zavr?ite sa otprilike 960.000.000 dolara.
U svakom slu?aju, da li je to nekako povezano sa nepostoje?im Antilefonom, mo?da? Ako ne, premesti?u tvoj post na neko drugo mesto.
Well, I see you put a fair amount of money into this investigation; hence, I hope you will achieve your ultimate goal.
Just to say, slots are considered worth playing on a 96% RTP rate. I would like to believe slots with RTP 92% do not even exist, but who knows...
When it comes to the outcome, though:
If a game RTP is 96%, it means that if you start with $1,000,000,000 and then play 1,000,000,000 rounds at $1 each, then you should end up with approximately $960,000,000.
In any case, is it somehow related to a non-existent Antillephone, perhaps? If not, I will move your post somewhere else.
Premestite ga negde gde ?u se ?uti i pri?am o virtuelnim BLACKJACK igrama koje tvrde da rade pomo?u generatora slu?ajnih brojeva…. NARO?ITO 2 blackjack igre BGMAING-a, ali sve njih treba istra?iti i pozvati na odgovornost, jer bez obzira ?ta ka?u, imam DOKAZ da NISU slu?ajne van razumne sumnje u obliku beskrajnih video snimaka koji jasno pokazuju koliko su ove igre nepravedne... Nije ni blizu!! To su kompanije koje posluju sa ?licencama" i ako su te licence na bilo koji na?in legitimne, onda to ni na koji na?in nije prihvatljivo!! Neko treba da uradi ne?to povodom ove prevare jer se ovi ljudi samo izvla?e
Move it to somewhere i’ll be heard and im talking about the virtual BLACKJACK games that claim to operate using a random number generator…. ESPECIALLY BGMAING’s 2 blackjack games, but all of them need to be investigated and held accountable, because no matter what they say, i have PROOF that they are NOT random beyond a reasonable doubt in the form of endless video recordings that clearly show how unfair these games are… It’s not even close!! These are companies operating with "licenses" and if those licenses are legitimate in any way, then this in no way shape or form is acceptable!! Somebody needs to do something about this fraud because these people are just getting away with it
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Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.
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