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Mo?ete li mi re?i vi?e o ovome? Mnogo hvala unapred!
Could you tell me more about this? Many thanks in advance!
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Mo?ete li mi re?i vi?e o ovome? Mnogo hvala unapred!
Could you tell me more about this? Many thanks in advance!
Rekli ste ?a njih podr?ava regulator", pa sam uveren da ste ve? pro?li ovaj krug. Jesam li u pravu?
Da budemo sigurni, koji regulator imate na umu, molim?
U svakom slu?aju, ovaj vodi? je posebno kreiran za igra?e koji ?ele da budu bolje informisani o ovim procedurama:
http://www.kpvfaw.com/licensing-authorities
Obi?no je pe?at samo validator, a proces podno?enja ?albe ne sadr?i sam pe?at.
Molimo vas da odgovarate sa vodi?em. ??
You said "and they are backed up by the regulator", so I'm convinced you already passed this circle. Am I correct?
Just to be sure, which regulator do you have in mind, please?
Anyway, this guide was specifically created for players who want to be better informed about these procedures:
http://www.kpvfaw.com/licensing-authorities
Usually, the seal is just a validator, and the process of submitting the complaint does not contain the seal itself.
Please suit yourself with the guide. ??
Tamo gde operater ima va?e?u licencu Curacao, jedini na?in na koji ?e prihvatiti ?albu je tako ?to ?e pro?i kroz pe?at i pomeriti dole do Ulo?i ?albu, znam jer sam to morao da uradim, ne?e prihvatiti moju ?albu dok ne odem kroz njega. @Inrel19
U nedostatku va?e?e licence mo?ete ulo?iti ?albu prate?i njihova uputstva.
Where an operator has a valid Curacao license, the only way they will accept a complaint is by going through the seal and scrolling down to Make a Complaint, I know because I had to do that, they would not accept my complaint until I had gone through it. @Inrel19
In the absence of a valid license you can file a complaint by following their instructions.
Ja sam konkretno pitao o ovome i dobio sam druga?iji odgovor. ???♀
Dakle, na?i vodi?i sadr?e informacije koje smo dobili.
O kom od ?etiri provajdera licenci na Curacaou govorite, molim vas? Zato ?to postoje velike razlike.
Govore?i o Antilefonu, da li to zna?i da ove informacije vi?e nisu va?e?e, molim?
?Podno?enje ?albe
Antilephone NV ima veb stranicu, ali nema informacija o pritu?bama igra?a. Me?utim, na stranici validatora Antilephone NV postoji slede?i pasus:
?Antillephone bi trebalo da kontaktiraju igra?i samo kada veruju da je Operater prekr?io njihovu licencu. Sve sporove sa Operatorom u vezi sa isplatom, blokiranim nalogom, ka?njenjem, pokvarenim funkcijama i tako dalje, treba prvo da se re?e direktno sa Operatorom. Operater. Ako se ne prona?e re?enje, mo?ete kontaktirati nekoliko nezavisnih tela, koja bi trebalo da budu navedena na veb stranici Operatora."
Igra?i koji ?ele da podnesu ?albu mogu da kontaktiraju Antilephone samo putem e-po?te ovde: [email protected] .
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I was specifically asking about this and was given a different response. ???♀?
Thus, our guides contain the information we got.
Which one of the four Curacao license providers are you talking about, please? Because there are major differences.
Speaking about Antillephone, does it mean this info is no longer valid, please?
"Submitting a Complaint
Antillephone N.V. does have a website, but there is no information to be found regarding player complaints. However, on the Antillephone N.V. validator page, there is the following paragraph:
"Antillephone should only be contacted by players when they believe an Operator is in breach of their license. All disputes with an Operator about a payout, a blocked account, a delay, broken features and so on, should first be taken up directly with the Operator. If no resolution is found there are number of independent bodies you can contact, which should be listed on the Operator website."
Players that wish to submit a complaint can only contact Antillephone via email here: [email protected].
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Da, kontaktirao sam regulatora i oni su rekli da su istraga i obrazlo?enje kazina ta?ni.
Problem je bio u tome ?to je njihovo rezonovanje bilo negde na liniji 'mi smo u pravu, a vi niste u pravu'. Mnogo puta sam pitao za?to su neki Uslovi i odredbe po?tovani (u njihovu korist), a drugi potpuno ignorisani.
To traje mesecima i ve? sam razgovarao sa pravnim savetnikom, oni su bili istog mi?ljenja da se sredstva oduzimaju nezakonito, bez ikakvog ?vrstog obrazlo?enja. Sada sam se samo pitao, da li postoje neki organi kojima bih to mogao da prijavim?
Muka mi je od kazina koji varaju ljude bez ikakvih posledica, vreme je da prestanem sa tim i ne?u prestati dok stvari ne budu kako treba.
Yes, I have contacted the regulator and they said that the investigation and reasoning of the casino is right.
The problem was, that their reasoning was somewhere along the lines of 'we are right and you are wrong'. I have asked many times why some Terms and Conditions were followed (to their benefit) and others completely ignored.
This has been going for months and I have already talked with a legal counsel, they were the same opinion that funds are forfeited illegally, without any solid reasoning. So now I was just wondering, are there any authorities that I could report this to?
I am sick an tired of casinos scamming people without any consequences, it is time to stop that and I will not stop until things are right.
U takvom slu?aju, ako i vlast odlu?i u korist kazina, mislim da bi slede?a instanca mogla da bude advokat. Ali nisam siguran kako bi sve to ispalo.
Da li ste poku?ali da pitate pravnog savetnika gde mo?ete prijaviti takav slu?aj?
In such a case, if the authority also decides in favour of the casino, I think that the next instance could be a lawyer. But I'm not sure how it would all turn out.
Have you tried asking the legal consuel where you can report such a case ?
Da imam. Prvi predlog mog pravnog savetnika bio je da ipak poku?am da re?im ovo sa kazinom i regulatorom postavljanjem dodatnih pitanja koja ?e ih dovesti do toga da shvate da su zaista pogre?ili. Na?alost, ni kazino, ni regulator sada uop?te ne reaguju. Potpuno ignori?u dodatna pitanja i uop?te ignori?u moje imejlove. To mi jasno pokazuje da su ta pitanja validna i da bi dovela do nepovoljnih odgovora na njih.
Drugi predlog konzula je bio da se obratim organu iznad regulatora, ali nisam siguran ko je to. Iz Google pretrage se ?ini da je to Vlada Kurakoe, ali nisam siguran u to.
Tako?e su mi predlo?ili da se obratim Ombudsmanu za finansijski kriminal, jer se to ve? mo?e smatrati finansijskim kriminalom nezakonitim pribavljanjem mojih sredstava.
Yes, I have. The first suggestion from my legal consuel was to still try and to solve this with the casino and regulator by asking additional questions that lead to them understanding that they actually made a mistake. Unfortunately, nor the casino, nor the regulator is responding at all now. They completely ignore the follow-up questions and ignore my emails in general. This clearly shows to me that those questions are valid and would lead to unfavorable answers to them.
The other suggestion from the consuel was to contact the authority above the regulator, but I am not sure who it is. From the Google search is seems that it is The Government of Curacoa, but I am not sure about it.
Also, they suggested that I could contact Financial Crime Ombudsman, because this could already be considered as a financial crime by illegally obtaining my funds.
Naravno da razumem. Mislim da su ovo prili?no dobri predlozi i radoznao sam da vidim da li ?ete se slo?iti sa nekim od njih. ?teta ?to kazino ne reaguje i poku?ava da re?i problem jer mislim da bi to bio najbolji na?in. Druge preporuke bi svakako bile du?e.
Me?utim, mo?da jo? ni?ta nije izgubljeno i mo?da ?ete dobiti odgovor od nadle?nih. Ako ne, mo?ete nas obavestiti o slede?im koracima. Dr?a?u fige ??
Of course I understand. I think these are pretty good suggestions and I'm curious to see if you're going to go with any of them. It's a shame that the casino is not responding and trying to solve the problem because I think that would be the best way to go. Other recommendations would certainly be more lengthy.
However, nothing may be lost yet and you may get a response from the authority. If not, you can keep us informed about the next steps. I'll keep my fingers crossed ??
Hvala ti Jaro. Ne planiram da odustanem od ovoga.
Prijavi?u kazino svim mogu?im nadle?nima, jer to ?to rade je odvratno i mnoga kazina rade isto. Vreme je da ih zaustavimo jednog po jednog.
Obave?tava?e vas na ovom forumu kako stvari eskaliraju.
Thank you Jaro. I am not planning to give up on this.
I will report the casino to every authority possible, because what they are doing is disgusting and many casinos are doing the same. It is time to stop them one by one.
Will keep you updated in this forum how things escalate.
Svakako, ako smatrate da kazino nije bio fer prema vama, definitivno se vredi boriti za njega.
Bi?e mi drago ako nas obavestite i zanima me da li ?ete uspeti da re?ite situaciju. Dr?a?u vam pal?eve. ??
Certainly if you feel that the casino hasn't been fair to you, it's definitely worth fighting for.
I'll be glad if you update us and I'm interested to see if you manage to resolve the situation. I will keep my fingers crossed for you. ??
Dobio sam neke informacije od Antilephone NV
Ovi ljudi ?e mi pomo?i da vratim svoj novac:
Prosledili smo va?u po?tu centru za re?avanje problema za dalje detalje!
S po?tovanjem
ANTILLEPHONE NV
Licenca i re?avanje sporova
I got some information from Antillephone N.V.
This people will help me to get back my money:
We have forwarded your mail to the resolution center for further details!
Sincerely
ANTILLEPHONE N.V.
License & Dispute Resolution
Zdravo.
U stvari, pi?e da je e-mail prosle?en. Ili imate jo?? To bi bilo ne?to!
Hello.
Actually, it says the email was forwarded. Or do you have some more? That would be something!
Zdravo! To je neverovatna vest! Tako mi je drago zbog tebe! ?? Da li ovo nekako menja va?e mi?ljenje o kazinu?
Mislim, super je ?to si dobio novac, ali ipak, to nije bio komad torte...
Hi! That is amazing news! I'm so glad for you! ?? Does this somehow change your opinion of the casino?
I mean, it's cool you got the money, but still, it was not a piece of cake...
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Antillephone actually helps. After my request and their intervention, the money from Bet1000 Casino was immediately transferred to my bank account. Recommend Antillephone to everyone!!!
Zdravo Radka
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Hi Radka
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Da, znam to. Ovo je prili?no dobar primer koliko rizi?na mogu biti novoosnovana kazina. ???♂
Yep, I know that. This is a pretty good example of how risky the newly established casinos might be. ???♂?
Antilefon zapravo poma?e. Nakon mog zahteva i njihove intervencije, novac iz Bet1000 kazina je odmah preba?en na moj bankovni ra?un. Preporu?ite Antilephone svima!!!
Antillephone actually helps. After my request and their intervention, the money from Bet1000 Casino was immediately transferred to my bank account. Recommend Antillephone to everyone!!!
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Inicijativu koju smo pokrenuli s ciljem stvaranja globalnog sistema samoisklju?enja, koji ?e omogu?iti ranjivim igra?ima da blokiraju pristup svim mogu?nostima online kockanja.
www.kpvfaw.com je nezavistan izvor informacija o online kazinima i online kazino igrama, i nije kontrolisan od strane bilo kojeg operatora igara ili bilo koje druge institucije. Sve na?e recenzije i vodi?i su kreirani iskreno, u skladu sa najboljim znanjem i rasu?ivanjem na?ih ?lanova iz ekspertskog tima; ipak ovaj sadr?aj je napravljen u informativne svrhe i ne bi smeo i trebao da se tuma?i kao pravni savet. Bitno je da uvek ispunite sve regulatorne zahteve pre nego po?nete igrati u odre?enom kazinu.
Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali:
[email protected]
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Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.
Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali: [email protected]
Link ?e iste?i za 72 ?asa.
Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.
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