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Ako ?elite da diskutujete bilo ?ta vezano za Shuffle Casino, kao ?to su igre, bonusi, metode pla?anja, problemi sa nalogom, odgovorno kockanje ili bilo ?ta drugo, mo?ete to u?initi ovde.
Napravio sam depozit od 100 usdt. Igrao sam u kazinu, kladio sam se. Postavio sam zahtev za povla?enje radi verifikacije. Odmah sam im sve poslao. Pi?e da je ra?un verifikovan. Novac samo visi na povla?enju 160 usdt za 5. dan. Podr?ka je nestala, ne odgovaraju ni na ?ta. Molim vas pomozite mi da to re?im!
I made a deposit of 100 usdt. I played in the casino, placed bets. I placed a withdrawal request for verification. I immediately sent everything to them. It says that the account has been verified. The money just hangs on the withdrawal of 160 usdt for the 5th day. The support is gone, they don’t respond to anything. Please help me solve it!
Сделал депозит 100 usdt.Играл казино,ставил ставки.Поставил на вывод запросили верефикацию.Сразу им все отправил.Пишет что акаунт верефицирован.Деньги просто 5й день висят на выводе 160 usdt.Поддержка пропала,не отвечают ни на что.Помоготе решить пожалуйста!
Zvu?i frustriraju?e.
Da li ste bar ikada bili u kontaktu sa stvarnom osobom iz kazina? Moderna kazina radije obavljaju verifikaciju putem aplikacija tre?ih strana ili je barem protok dokumenata prili?no automatski dostupan sa naloga kazina.
U svakom slu?aju, jeste li probali njihove dru?tvene mre?e? Kladim se da su novoosnovane kockarnice potro?ile mnogo bogatstva na marketing, tako da bi svaka negativna povratna informacija trebala nai?i na odre?eni odgovor. ???♀
To je plima, ali ja bih to sigurno poku?ao.
Sounds frustrating.
Have you ever been in any contact with a real person from the casino, at least? Modern casinos prefer to handle verification via third-party apps or at least the document flow is rather automatically accessible from the casino's account.
Anyway, have you tried their socials? I bet freshly established casinos spent a great deal of fortune on marketing, so every negative feedback should meet a certain response. ???♀?
It's a tide line, but I would surely try that.
Zdravo svima,
nikada nisam imao tako ?udno iskustvo sa kladioni?arom.
Nedavno sam nai?ao na frustriraju?u situaciju sa me?anjem. Zahtevao sam povla?enje pre vi?e od 10 dana nakon ?to sam obavio sve potrebne verifikacije. Me?utim, oni su odbili da isplate moj dobitak, navode?i kr?enje njihovih uslova.
Njihovi razlozi za uskra?ivanje mog dobitka mi se ?ine nerazumnim. Tvrde da sam prekr?io uslove tako ?to sam jednom koristio VPN (verovatno sam se povezao sa ure?aja na kojem je VPN bio uklju?en, nikada nisam video da kripto kladioni?ar zabranjuje vpn) i tako ?to sam se upu?tao u sigurne opklade na njihovoj platformi (priznajem da sam pokrio samo jednu od moje opklade postavljene na nasumi?no kla?enje na drugim kladioni?arima). Prema njima, kori??enje VPN-a i uveravanje da su opklade kr?enje njihovih uslova.
Verujem da je njihovo tuma?enje uslova nepravedno i imam pravo da dobijem svoj dobitak.
5.1k U igricama Shuffle u?estvujete isklju?ivo u svom li?nom i neprofesionalnom svojstvu i samo u rekreativne i zabavne svrhe;
da li je ovo kladioni?ar?
Hi everyone,
never had a such strange experience with a bookie.
I recently encountered a frustrating situation with shuffle. I requested a withdrawal over 10 days ago after completing all required verifications. However, they've refused to pay out my winnings, citing breaches of their terms and conditions.
Their reasons for withholding my winnings seem unreasonable to me. They claim I breached terms by using a VPN once (probabily i connected from a device in which the VPN was switched on, never seen a crypto bookie banning vpn) and by engaging in sure bets on their platform (i admit have covered just one of my bets placed on shuffle betting on other bookies). According to them, using a VPN and making sure bets are violations of their terms and conditions.
I believe their interpretation of the terms is unjust and I'm entitled to receive my winnings.
5.1k You participate in the Shuffle games strictly in your personal and non-professional capacity and for recreational and entertainment purposes only;
is this a bookie?
Zdravo. ?ao nam je ?to ste se na?li u ovoj neprijatnoj situaciji. Ve? ste podneli ?albu, gde na? tim zapravo ?eka va? odgovor, pa ako je mogu?e, da li biste mogli da kliknete/dodirnete na ovaj link ?? da ih obavestite o nekim detaljima u vezi sa va?im problemom koje treba da znaju da nastave dalje?
U svakom slu?aju, po na?inu na koji zapravo pi?ete o tome, ne mogu si pomo?i, ali imam ose?aj da govorite o sportskom kla?enju. Je li tako? Ispravite me ako gre?im ??.
Kao ?to je Veronika rekla, kazino ima ovaj termin: ?7.4. Svaki poku?aj prikrivanja va?e prave lokacije kori??enjem VPN-a, proksija ili sli?nog servisa ili pru?anjem neta?nih ili obmanjuju?ih informacija o va?em mestu stanovanja ili lokaciji ?e predstavljaju kr?enje ovih Uslova kori??enja usluge." Pomenuli ste da ste verovatno gre?kom imali VPN, pa da vidimo kako ?e kazino reagovati na to. Zaista nisam siguran u ovo, da vam ka?em ta?no, pa sam nestrpljiv da vidim rezultat. Nadajmo se najboljem ovde. ??
Hello. Sorry you've found yourself in this unpleasant situation. You have already submitted a complaint, where our team is actually waiting for you reply, so if possible, could you please click/tap on this link ?? to inform them about some details, regarding your issue, they need to know to proceed further?
Anyway, from the way you actually write about it, I can not help myself, but I have the feeling you are talking about sports betting. Is that so? Please correct me if I'm wrong ??.
As Veronika said, the casino has got this term: "7.4. Any attempt to conceal your true location through the use of a VPN, proxy, or similar service or through the provision of incorrect or misleading information about your place of residence or location will constitute a breach of these Terms of Service." You have mentioned that you probably had on the VPN by mistake, so let's see how the casino will react to that. I am really not sure about this , to tell you the true, so I am eager to see the result. Let's hope for the best here. ??
Hm, ako je ceo va? slu?aj vezan za sportsko kla?enje, bojim se da ?e va?a ?alba biti odbijena jer nemamo dovoljno uvida u ovu oblast i nemamo tim koji bi imao saznanja o tome.
Me?utim, unapred mogu da predlo?im neke linkove na kojima se bavi sportsko kla?enje i mo?da vam tamo mogu pomo?i i mo?ete poku?ati da ulo?ite ?albu.
Mo?ete ih prona?i ovde:
https://vvv.bookmakers.bet/submit-a-complaint/
https://vvv.top100bookmakers.com/contact-us/
https://vvv.sportsbookreviev.com/sportsbook-complaint/
Javite mi ako uspete da to nekako re?ite, a svakako ?to se VPN-ova ti?e, bio bih veoma oprezan jer se u ve?ini kazina zaobilaze pravila.
Dr?ati pal?eve. ??
Hmm, if your whole case is related to sports betting, I am afraid your complaint will be rejected because we don't have enough insight in this area and we don't have a team that would have the knowledge about it.
However, in advance I can suggest some links where sports betting is dealt with and maybe they can help you there and you can try to file a complaint.
You can find them here:
https://www.bookmakers.bet/submit-a-complaint/
https://www.top100bookmakers.com/contact-us/
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
Let me know if you manage to resolve this somehow, and certainly as far as VPNs are concerned, I would be very careful because in most casinos it's circumventing the rules.
Fingers crossed. ??
Postavio sam automatsku opkladu od 0,01 centa i udvostru?avanje sa svakim gubitkom, sa 50,5% ?anse za gubitak i 49,5% za pobedu...
Kako se u manje od 100 lansiranja dogodi 17 gubitaka zaredom?
Kakve su ?anse za to?
Druga stvar, ako postavite jednostavne opklade od 0,01 i razumno rotirate sistem, on ?e odr?avati ravnomerne i naizmeni?ne rezultate, izme?u gubitaka i dobitaka, samo pauzirajte i postavite visoku vrednost, na primer 50 USD i od 7 bacanja 6 su gubici, a ne Mo?ete misliti da se rezultati ne manipuli?u...
I set up an automatic bet of 0.01 cent and doubling with each loss, with a 50.5% chance of losing and 49.5% of winning...
How in less than 100 launches do 17 losses happen in a row?
What are the chances of that?
Another thing, if you place simple bets of 0.01 and rotate the system reasonably, it will maintain even and alternating results, between losses and gains, just pause and place a high value, for example 50 usd and of 7 throws 6 are losses, not You can think that the results are not manipulated...
Configurei aposta automática de 0,01 centavo e dobrando a cada perda, com 50,5% de chance de perda e 49,5 de ganho...
Como em menos de 100 lan?amentos acontecem 17 perdas seguidas?
Qual a chance disso?
Outra coisa, se você colocar apostas simples de 0,01 e girar o sistema razoavelmente vai manter resultados parelhos e alternados, entre perdas e ganhos, basta pausar e colocar um valor alto, por exemplo 50 usd e de 7 lan?amentos 6 s?o perdas, n?o dá para achar que os resultados n?o s?o manipulados...
Zdravo,
to je zanimljiv broj. Rekao bih da tako?e treba da pomenete koju igru igrate, kako bismo mogli da razvijemo neku vrstu mi?ljenja zasnovanog na redovnom RTP-u i njegovoj volatilnosti.
Generalno, kada igrate slot igre sa velikom volatilno??u, ve?inu vremena ne?ete dobiti. Ali kada budete imali sre?e, najverovatnije ?ete dobiti ve?inu gubitaka.
?to je ve?a volatilnost, to ?ete najverovatnije do?iveti vi?e ?mrtvih obrtaja". Ovaj na?in, naravno, ne odgovara svima.
Ako mogu da dodam jo? jednu op?tu napomenu, ?eleo bih da pomenem statisti?ki RTP:
Ako je RTP igre 96%, to zna?i da ako po?nete sa 1.000.000.000 dolara, a zatim igrate 1.000.000.000 rundi po 1 dolar, onda bi trebalo da zavr?ite sa pribli?no 960.000.000 dolara.
Dakle, ovo ?to opisuje? mi zvu?i sasvim normalno.
Iskreno, nisam sasvim siguran da govorite i o slotovima.
Pa, javite nam, molim vas.
Hello,
that's an interesting count. I'd say you should also mention which game you play, so we can develop some kind of opinion based on the regular RTP and its volatility.
In general, when you play slot games with high volatility, most of the time you won't win. But when you're lucky, most likely you will gain most of the losses.
The higher the volatility, the more "dead spins" you will most likely experience. This way does not suit everyone, of course.
If I may add another general note, I'd like to mention the statistical RTP:
If a game's RTP is 96%, it means that if you start with $1,000,000,000 and then play 1,000,000,000 rounds at $1 each, then you should end up with approximately $960,000,000 dollars.
So, what you describe sounds perfectly normal to me.
Frankly, I'm not entirely sure you are talking about slots too.
Well, let us know, please.
Igrao sam kockice. 49,5% ?anse za pobedu i 50,5% ?anse za gubitak, za profit od 100%...
U hiljadu rundi idealno bi bilo imati 495 pobeda i 505 poraza... Kolika je ?ansa da imate 17 uzastopnih poraza za manje od 100 bacanja?
Ako igrate 1 cent, ova verovatno?a ostaje, variraju?i do oko 60% efektivnih gubitaka, ali za manje od 100 igranja ima?ete 17 gubitaka zaredom koje sam na?ao uprkos svim kvotama, ?anse u 65 hiljada...
I played dice. 49.5% chance of winning and 50.5% chance of losing, to profit 100%...
In a thousand rounds the ideal would be to have 495 wins and 505 losses... How much is the chance of having 17 consecutive losses in less than 100 rolls?
If you play 1 cents this probability remains, varying up to around 60% of effective losses, but in less than 100 plays you will have 17 losses in a row I found against all odds, a chance in 65k...
Joguei dados. 49,5% de chance de ganhar e 50,5% de chance de perder, para lucrar 100%...
Em mil rodadas o noemal seria ter 495 vitórias e 505 derrotas... A chance de acontecer 17 derrotas seguidas em menos de 100 rolamentos é de quanto?
Se jogar 1 centavos essa probabilidade de mantem, variando até uns 60% de perdas efetivas, mas em menos de 100 jogadas sair 17 perdas seguidas achei contra todas as probabilidades, uma chance em 65k...
Kocke!
Aaaa, u tom slu?aju, molim vas, ne uzimajte u obzir moj prethodni odgovor orijentisan na slot ??
Da li je to nekako povezano sa Shuffle Casino, molim? Pitam se da li bismo mogli da dobijemo povratne informacije i od kazina.
Dice!
Aaaah, in that case, please do not consider my previous slot-oriented response ??
Is it somehow related to the Shuffle Casino, please? I wonder whether we could get feedback from the casino too.
Upravljanje otpadom koje ?e vas prevariti tako ?to ?e vas ignorisati, odlo?iti odgovor ili jednostavno onemogu?iti va? nalog kada i ako se uop?te ?alite da vam nije dato ono na ?ta imate pravo kroz garancije i obe?anja.
Trash management that will scam the dog shit out of you by ignoring you, delaying a response, or outright just disable your account when and if you complain at all about not having been given what you are entitled to through warranties and promises.
Zdravo, mo?ete li mi re?i ?ta se dogodilo u kazinu? Da li ste imali problema sa povla?enjem ili vam je kazino uzeo dobitak?
Mo?ete li mi pomo?i sa opisom situacije kako bismo mogli da vam pomognemo. Barem poku?aj. ??
Hi, could you please tell me what happened in the casino ? Did you have any problem with your withdrawal or did the casino take your winnings ?
Could you help me with a description of the situation so we can look into helping you. At least try to. ??
Tako sam zapo?eo partnerstvo sa Shuffle-om u februaru ranije ove godine. Prvo sam razgovarao sa Kemom, koji mi je predlo?io da bih radije po?eo sa deljenjem obrtaja i potvrdio sam da bih to ?eleo da uradim. On me je povezao sa Kalom i izme?u ova dva razgovora po?eo sam da uklju?ujem igra?e.
Cal i ja smo razgovarali o trenutnim ponudama i rekli da ?e mi dati samo strukturu opklade od 25 % i da ?u, ako pove?am obim za 300 %, mo?i da pre?em na udeo u prihodu.
Moj dogovor je po?eo 13. februara, a moje stope provizije su promenjene tek 30. marta. Od 13. februara imao sam 2.640.000 dolara u obimu sa 6.290 dolara zarade pridru?ene kompanije. Ukupni nedostatak pa?nje da prilagodim svoju stopu doveo je do toga da sam izgubio otprilike 9.000 dolara zarade na strukturi opklada i vi?e od 35.000 dolara u udelu obrtaja.
Za to vreme sam pretrpeo neto gubitak od 22.000 dolara od sopstvenog igranja, dok sam dodatno potro?io 3.000 dolara za izgradnju integracija za ovo. Ovde sam tra?io i odobreno mi je da napravim vi?e naloga za ovo.
Pre 2 dana moj nalog iz perioda airdrop-a je onemogu?en nakon 9 dana tra?enja od Cam-a za povra?aj gubitka i ignorisanja. Kada sam pitao za?to, re?eno mi je za vi?estruku upotrebu naloga iako je nalog koji je onemogu?en bio isklju?en iz kla?enja zajedno sa mojim partnerskim nalogom. Prethodno sam tra?io da budu kako bi preciznije upravljali pra?enjem zarada. Tako?e ?elim da naglasim da od mene nikada nije tra?eno da dostavim bilo kakvu dokumentaciju u vezi sa KIC-om pre nego ?to je moj nalog onemogu?en.
Cam mi je na kraju rekao da moram da budem platinast da bih povratio gubitak, iako je kroz moj rad sa njim na desetine puta nagra?ivao igra?e ispod Gold VIP za mene gubitke jer je to standardna ponuda dobrodo?lice za svakoga ko mo?e da koordinira takve
Kad god zatra?im ne?to, dobijem ceo ?razgovor sa podr?kom" koji mi onda ka?e ?po?alji e-po?tu", a ako pitam druge, ne dobijem nikakav odgovor ni na jednu od ovih metoda i na kraju ostajem da nosim teret neizmirene obaveze.
Nikada u svom ?ivotu nisam sreo vi?e nepo?tovanja i nedoslednost, potpuno obmanjuju?u grupu pojedinaca. Napravio sam 250 hiljada u prve 3 nedelje sa njima i nisam dobio nikakvu podr?ku ili zahvalnost za svoj naporan rad i reputaciju.
So I began partnership with Shuffle in Feb earlier this year. I spoke with Cam initially, who suggested I would prefer rev share to start and I confirmed I would like to do that. He put me in touch with Cal and between these two conversations I began to onboard players.
Cal and I discussed current offers and said he would only give me a %25 wager commission structure and that if increased volume by %300 I would be able to change to revenue share.
My deal began on Feb 13th, and it wasnt until March 30th that my commission rates were changed. Since Feb. 13th I have had $2,640,000 in volume with $6,290 in affiliate earnings. The overall lack of care to adjust my rate led to me losing roughly $9,000 in earnings on a wager structure and more than $35,000 in rev share.
During this time I incurred a net loss of $22,000 from my own play while also further spending of $3,000 to build integrations for this. It was here, that I asked for and was granted to create multiple accounts for this.
2 days ago my account from the airdrop period was disabled following 9 days of asking Cam for lossback and being ignored. When I asked why, I was told for multiple account use even though the account that was disabled was excluded from betting along with my affiliate account. I requested previously for them to be in order to manage tracking of earnings more accurately. I also want to emphasize that I was never asked to submit any documentation as to KYC before my account was disabled.
Cam eventually told me I needed to be platinum to get a lossback, even though through my work with him he has dozens of times awarded players below Gold VIP for me lossbacks as it is a standard welcome offer for anyone who can coordinate such
Whenever I ask for something I get the whole "talk with support" who then tells me "submit an email" and if I ask others, I dont get any reply whatsoever on any of these methods and ultimately I am left holding the burden of the outstanding liabilities.
I have never met a more disrespectful and inconsistent outright deceptive group of individuals in my life. I generated 250k in my first 3 weeks with them and received zero support or appreciation for my hard work and reputation.
Hej, hvala ?to ste podelili svoju gorku istoriju.
Nepotrebno je re?i da bih vam toplo savetovao da posetite forum koji je fokusiran na partnere, kao ?to je GPVA
( direktna veza ovde ??).
Iako cenim va?e a?uriranje, mi smo, osim GPVA, isklju?ivo fokusirani na podr?ku obi?nim povremenim igra?ima. Na?alost, va? problem je daleko od na?eg trenutnog dosega.
Hey, thanks for sharing your bitter history.
Needless to say, I would strongly advise you to visit an affiliate-focused forum, such as GPWA
(direct link here ??).
Though I appreciate your update, we, aside from GPWA, are solely focused on supporting ordinary casual players. Sadly, your issue is far from our current reach.
Pa, moj problem je ?to me boli i slu?ajno i profesionalno. Podneo sam ?albu u vezi sa zatvaranjem mog naloga igra?a, a vi ste je odbili iako nisam podneo bilo kakvu tvrdnju o prihodima od partnera koji su zadr?ani. Moj ra?un igra?a je i dalje -$1,794 za jednog, a drugi su -$3,000~ u zadr?anim sredstvima osim mog partnerstva.
Well, my problem is that it hurts me both casually and professionally. I submitted a complaint regarding my player account being closed and you rejected it even though I hadnt made any claim about affiliate revenues that were withheld. My player account is still -$1,794 for one and others are -$3,000~ in withheld funds aside from my partnership.
Pa, prema onome ?to sam video, pomenuli ste neke affiliate stvari i zato je odbijeno i kao ?to je Radka rekla, va? problem je daleko od na?eg doma?aja.
U svakom slu?aju, da li ste probali stranicu koja vam je preporu?ena? To bi moglo biti od pomo?i i verovatno biste mogli da saznate vi?e. ??
Well, according to what I saw, you mentioned some affiliate stuff and that's why it was rejected and as Radka said, your problem is far from our reach.
Anyway, did you try the page that was recommended to you ? That might be helpful and you would probably be able to find out more. ??
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I have moved your post here to the official thread of this casino. If you like, you can describe more some of your experiences here, so it'll be helpful for other players as well. You can also write a review for this casino, just by using this link.??
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