makes sense to say about this Finnish Veikkaus monopoly casino thing.

Finland intends to put Veikkaus' income in the state budget.

this can be done from an eu perspective.

then Veikkaus is jealous of ordinary Finnish players when we play in these online casinos, Veikkaus aims to prevent Finns from playing in foreign casinos.

this Finnish gaming company was formerly Ray and was merged with Veikkaus. after this merger, Veikkaus 'gaming machines stopped making profits, they only started to take the players' money.

tekee mieli sanoa t?st? suomen Veikkaus monopoli kasinosta asiaa.

suomi aikoo laittaa valtion budjettiin veikkauksen tuotot.

voiko n?in tehd? eu:n n?k?kulmasta.

sitten ovat veikkauksella kateellisia tavallisille suomalaisille pelaajille kun me pelataan n?ill? netti kasinoilla,veikkauksella on pyrkimyksen? est?? suomalaisten pelaaminen ulkomaisilla kasinoilla.

t?m? suomalainen peliyhti? oli ennen Ray ja se sulautettiin Veikkaukseen. t?m?n sulautumisen j?lkeen lakkasivat veikkauksen pelikoneet antamasta voittoja,ne alkoi vaan vied? pelaajien rahat.

It would we interesting to see what was your RTP (return to player) before the merge and after the merge. Then it would be easy to count whether the slots really pay nothing.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/d4d4663d-a1fd-4688-94ed-e2f28268127a

Bill: Redemptions of winnings from foreign gaming sites will be blocked

at 14:08: Rydman confirmed that the blocking of payment transactions would apply to the payment of the game bet made by the player to the gambling operator, and the winnings from gambling could not be paid to the players in Finland.

now in finland it is planned to prevent all casinos from playing.

this must now be brought to the attention of the eu that the rights of finnish citizens will be financed and the Veikkaus monopoly will be strengthened !!

Lakiesitys: Voittojen lunastuksia ulkomaisilta pelisivustoilta estet??n

klo 14:08: Rydman vahvisti, ett? maksuliikenteen esto koskisi pelaajan rahapelioperaattorille suorittamaa pelipanoksen maksua sek? rahapeleist? saatuja voittoja ei voitaisi maksaa pelaajille Suomeen.

nyt suomessa aiotaan est?? kaikkien kasinoiden pelaaminen.

t?m? pit?? nyt vied? eu:n tietoon ett? suomen kansalaisten oikeuksia aiotaan rahoittaa ja veikkauksen monopolia vahvistetaan!!

Damn, it looks like the wave of terrible regulations reached the country of 1000 lakes as well. Such a shame ??

Hi, the betting turnover is 13 billion

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-11029463

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veikkaus

Hei, veikkaus liikevaihto on 13 miljardia

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-11029463

https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veikkaus

Hi, do you play in the casino or do you prefer others?

I have sometimes played betting but the correct turnover is not 100 million but 13 billion

Olen pelannut joskus veikkaus mutta oikein liikevaihto ei ole 100 miljoonaa vaan 13 miljardia

I would just like to tell you that the correct turnover of 13 billion is not 100 million as your page reads

Haluisin vaan kertoo teille ett? oikein liikevaihto 13 miljardia se ei ole 100 miljoonaa kuten teid?n sivulla lukee

Thank you, I already notified my colleague from the Data analysis team.

Hey waledduda123.

Thank you very much for your insight. Please, be aware the projected annual revenues is just our estimation for their online casino and not the whole business activity. Additionally, we express that it is higher than 100 million, with the indicator ">".

This is the only casino i have never won a single big win . and i have played here as much as i have played together in all other hundreds of casinos i have tried.

That's what I call a piece of really bad luck!

Care to share further details? I mean, the quality of any casino is not determined by the amount lost or won.

You know, we can pretty easily lose several deposits straight in a legit and decent casino.

My friend just played there the other day and told he tried 4 different games. Counted that played over 1000 spins in a row without any bonuses or special features that normally accure every now and then in other casinos. Biggest win was under 1€. You call it bad luck. I see a pattern. Same games work totally different in all other casinos. Cant be bad luck if you play over years same games and this casino rtp is the worst in 99,9% of times. And speaking about dozens of different casinos.

And we're getting additional information, well, I could not guess that much from your original post, could I? ??

Let's leave that aside.

Are there any other hints suggesting the games are not as they should be?

Feel free to consider this post regarding fake games, please.

Technically, there is not much I can help you with unless anybody can prove casinos are altering the games. For that, one would need the full gaming history to reverse-engineer the whole game.

I'm not even sure whether anyone can accomplish such a task. The game's fairness should be guaranteed by the game provider's license, though.

Yeah, gave one last chance to this casino. 3 different games approx 1000 spins. 1 win over 3€. One game 500 spins in a row and not a single special feature that comes normally every now and then. Never seen this in 15 years in any other casino but Veikkaus several times. Games also lagging all the time. Game sounds not in sync with the game. I hope someone investigates this. after long investigation and interwievs, i am now 100% sure their games are not working same as the same games in other sites. Last few years my rtp there is so awful that no other casino comes even close and all my friends have noticed the same. Played one particular game. Our biggest wins in other casinos are about 2000-10 000€ as nobody has ever won even 300€ in this casino. And we all played almost 15 years in several sites.

Can you confirm the game's RTP? I mean, is it shown somewhere?

You know if the casino is licensed, there is truly a tiny, almost zero chance the games are not original.

Read this response from one of the Casino Guru Data Team members:

http://www.kpvfaw.com/forum/slots/spotting-genuine-vs--fake-slots-games--tips-for-savvy-casino-players#post-68470

This is why I'm eager to know what games with what RTP you all play, or have played for all those years ??

listen betting is the only one that does not fail to pay out winnings. the only casino besides Paff that doesn't let players down. because the responsibility is big. and protected. In Finland, it is not the case that you can also win from a paid game. For some, it just doesn't go to the heart of it. money is used to buy .and the fee is paid.

kuule . veikkaus on ainut .joka ei j?t? maksamatta voittoja. ainut kasino paffin lis?ksi joka ei pet? pelaajia. koska vastuu on iso. ja suojattu .ei suomessa ole etteik? maksetusta pelist? saa itselle my?s voitot.joillekkin se vaan ei mene ytimeen. rahalla ostetaan .ja maksu maksetaan.

Hi, then isn't it wisest to stay with the casinos where you have no problem with the withdrawals or anything else, whether you are betting or playing slots ? If you try other casinos and have negative experiences in them, then I absolutely don't understand. 

Anyway, thank you for giving us an insight into how things work in Finland. I'm sure someone can take what they need from it.