On the other hand, the reality is that players from the Czech Republic can play at Curacao casinos. The point is that in the actual world, players are the ones who visit casinos outside their jurisdictions. I'm talking about the reality here, not about the laws. Because this whole thing demonstrates that the player still has to take the responsibility to gather information before he decides to register. For example, I think the others will agree that every child in the UK knows the local regulator, the UKGC, and they know they are not supposed to play elsewhere.

The question the other player posted was about something else, though I agree it is connected. My point was to explain that currently, almost all operators operate under a license that defines the rules and scope of self-exclusion. Moreover, virtually all operators offer some sort of self-exclusion to their players, whose scope is highly dependent on regulatory requirements and decisions of individual operators.

Thus, for example, the Curacao casino is not aware of self-exclusion made through any other national regulator. The player should never expect the opposite.

Seems we all have our inner demons. ??

I think we are all adults here; we can handle some troublemakers. We do not work24/7.

Not to mention we read almost every single post on the forum once we're working again, so no, I think this is not necessary. The best tactic is not to respond to such posts and keep it cool.

That is so true what a saddo ! he is gone now thankfully.

I looked at the list of legal casinos in the Czech Republic and I didn't find any casinos from estolio limited there, so are they legal or illegal? If they are legal, why don't they have a Czech license?

If a person turns to a lawyer, does he win the casino in advance?

Díval jsem se na seznam legálních casin v CZ a nena?el jsem tam casina od estolio limited, jsou tedy legální a nebo nelegální? Pokud jsou legální, pro? nemají ?eskou licenci?

Pokud se ?lověk obrátí na advokáta, tak p?edem vyhraje casino?

No. Everything that is not licensed in the Czech Republic is illegal. Every month, several new "casinos" of the same traditional Curacao companies appear on the Internet. They cannot update the list for each one that appears. If you sue them from the Czech Republic, the court may rule in your favor and order them to return your money. But the Czech court cannot enforce this decision on the Curacao companies, so it is pretty much useless. So far, the most successful is to go after these fake payment providers that casinos use, especially if they are based in the EU.

Ne. V?e, co není v ?esku licencováno, je nelegální. Na internetu se ka?dy měsíc objeví několik novych ?kasin" stejnych tradi?ních spole?ností Curacao. Nemohou aktualizovat seznam o ka?dé, které se objeví. Pokud je za?alujete z ?eska, soud vám mo?ná dá za pravdu a na?ídí jim vrátit vám peníze. Ale ?esky soud nem??e toto rozhodnutí vymáhat na spole?nosti z Curacaa, tak?e je to celkem k ni?emu. Zatím nejúspě?něj?í je jít po těchto fale?nych poskytovatelích plateb, které kasina pou?ívají, zejména pokud mají sídlo v EU.

Hi Paul, I saw by your screenshots that Sknsmgt contested the chargeback, did you end up winning this in the end?

Hiya no not yet I have to wait on them sending details that the bank has requested from the merchant about the objection then the bank sends that to me

Hi mate sadly not I got the bank to do chargebacks and won them apparently they have liquidised now.

I have quite a few transactions with Deserve. Have emailed a number of addresses for them but they’ve not responded to anything at all.

I raised chargebacks with them on my nationwide account on Wednesday and today they have been settled successfully!

do we think that means Deserve just agreed with the chargeback?

it was for a pretty small amount compared to the amount I have on my Revolut card. Reluctant to raise on my Revolut as I have some other higher value transactions to battle there but if deserve are gonna agree straight away may be worth it ??

Hi guys I came across this site to look at these shell companies and how they are connected

https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/pages/howtouse

It was from spinsy casino

I still have about 2 weeks to go to wait for pre arbitration to finish

haven't had any information back from them yet

initially had the chargeback reversed and had the funds added back to bank and then the contested on the very last day - so ive gone to pre arbitration and still waiting for an update on this

do you have any insights in to this?

did you have the same pulsion pay?

thanks

I was speaking to someone here recently who was waiting on pre arbitration - cant remember who it was - was just wondering if you got any updates? or anyone been succesful in this process before - thanks

I have 4 claims waiting on the info the bank has asked for but I have not heard anymore since midweek lord knows what they will come back with ??

Hello guys!

After reading for hours I will give it a try with chargebacks. I already contacted several companies with asking for a refund for goods not received. We will see if they answer, or else I have some evidence I tried to contact the merchant for the bank.

I would also like some info if someone know anything about pnmm.com (warsawa). They have no website nor anything to contact them via.

Aswelll as Sknk47 (tallinn, can't find any info about them anywhere.

And lastly a company called Terrvers based i London. This is the only information I got.

Going down a rabbit hole with KTM!

So they’re (co?) owned by a startup company called Daftcode that owns lots of other dodgy looking companies.

Ktm have stopped responding to my emails, tried contacting Daftcode but no reply there either.

that is until I started some employees ?? had two replies that they have recently left the company. One even gave me her personal email address so hoping for more info!

Is that for pre arbitration ?