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The player from Romania sought assistance after his account was closed by the casino on March 26, 2025, claiming he had not violated any terms or had duplicate accounts. He expressed concern about suspicious transactions related to money laundering and requested a refund for all deposits, which was declined. The Complaints Team clarified that using different merchant codes was common practice among casinos and did not necessarily indicate wrongdoing, as long as the deposited funds were credited to the player's account. Consequently, the complaint was closed due to a lack of further requests for assistance.
Igra? iz Rumunije je zatra?io pomo? nakon ?to mu je kazino zatvorio nalog 26. marta 2025. godine, tvrde?i da nije prekr?io nikakve uslove ili da je imao duple naloge. On je izrazio zabrinutost zbog sumnjivih transakcija u vezi sa pranjem novca i zatra?io povra?aj svih depozita, ?to je odbijeno. Tim za ?albe je pojasnio da je upotreba razli?itih trgova?kih kodova uobi?ajena praksa me?u kazinima i da ne ukazuje nu?no na pogre?no postupanje, sve dok su deponovana sredstva kreditirana na ra?un igra?a. Shodno tome, ?alba je zatvorena zbog nedostatka daljih zahteva za pomo?.
Javljam se u vezi sa problemom na koji sam nai?ao u kazinu. Oni su 26. marta 2025. zatvorili moj nalog, a u prilozima ?ete na?i mejl koji su mi poslali. ?eleo bih da istaknem da nisam prekr?io nijednu njihovu odredbu ili uslove, niti sam imao bilo kakav duplikat naloga na njihovoj platformi, suprotno onome ?to impliciraju. Ipak, moj nalog je zatvoren nakon ?to sam zatra?io povra?aj sredstava putem e-po?te, navode?i ?injenicu da mo?da koriste tehnike pranja novca preko drugih trgovaca.
Pod ovim mislim da sam u svom bankovnom izvodu primetio transakcije od trgovaca koji pru?aju usluge koje nisu povezane sa kockanjem. To je kod mene izazvalo sumnju, pogotovo ?to sam aktivirao mere bezbednosti protiv depozita na sre?u, a ipak mi je bilo dozvoljeno da igram. Po mom mi?ljenju, odgovorno kockanje ne funkcioni?e na ovaj na?in, a ono ?to oni rade je i nezakonito i nemoralno.
Zatra?io sam povra?aj sredstava za sve depozite napravljene na njihovoj platformi, ali je moj zahtev odbijen. Zbog toga se obra?am va?em forumu u nadi da ?u re?iti ovaj problem.
Transakcije se mogu videti u prilozima ispod, zajedno sa dokazom o njihovom odgovoru. Pored toga, ako Gamblezen tim tvrdi da imam duple naloge, ljubazno vas molim da zatra?ite evidenciju, jer sam pre nego ?to sam izvr?io depozit, posebno pitao putem ?askanja u?ivo da li imam jo? neke naloge na njihovoj veb lokaciji, a predstavnik podr?ke je jasno potvrdio da nemam. Zato tra?im dnevnike iz tog razgovora.
Hvala vam na pa?nji i podr?ci.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Dear CazinoGuru team,
I am reaching out regarding an issue I encountered with a casino. On March 26, 2025, my account was closed by them, and in the attachments, you will find the email they sent me. I would like to point out that I have not violated any of their terms or conditions, nor have I had any duplicate account on their platform, contrary to what they are implying. Nevertheless, my account was closed after I requested a refund via email, citing the fact that they may be using money laundering techniques through other merchants.
What I mean by this is that, in my bank statement, I noticed transactions from merchants who provide services unrelated to gambling. This raised suspicions for me, especially since I have activated security measures against gambling deposits, and yet I was allowed to play. In my opinion, responsible gambling does not work this way, and what they are doing is both illegal and immoral.
I requested a refund for all the deposits made on their platform, but my request was declined. This is why I am turning to your forum in the hope of resolving this issue.
The transactions can be seen in the attachments below, along with proof of their response. Additionally, if the Gamblezen team claims I have duplicate accounts, I kindly ask you to request the logs, as before making a deposit, I specifically asked via live chat if I had any other accounts on their site, and the support representative clearly confirmed that I did not. That is why I am requesting the logs from that conversation.
Hvala vam puno ?to ste podneli ?albu i zaista mi je ?ao ?to ?ujem za va? problem sa Gamblezen kazinom. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim jo? nekoliko pitanja pre nego ?to krenemo dalje.
Mo?ete li, molim vas, da ka?ete da li imate saldo stvarnog novca na svom kazino ra?unu?
Da li ste ikada spomenuli svoje probleme sa kockanjem kazinu?
Kada ste poslednji put razgovarali sa kazinom i o ?emu se radilo?
Na?alost, ako niste zatra?ili samoisklju?ivanje direktno iz kazina, oni nisu u obavezi da vam vrate depozite sa kojima ste ve? igrali.
Radujem se va?em odgovoru.
pozdrav,
Nick
Hello denispyth,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with Gamblezen Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.
Could you please advise if you had any real money balance on your casino account?
Did you ever mention your gambling issues to the casino?
When was the last time you spoke to the casino and what was it about?
Unfortunately, if you did not request a self-exclusion directly from the casino, they are not obligate to refund any deposits which you have already played with.
Ako bude potrebno, postavi?u ovde otiske sa svojim zahtevom prema njima i njihovim odbijanjem iz nepoznatih razloga.
Problem, iskreno, nije to, moj problem je ?to se na izvodu banke pojavljuju razli?iti trgovci koji nude sve osim kockanja. To je moj problem, za?to ?ifra trgovca nije 7995 i za?to ne koristim svog provajdera pod ?ifrom trgovca poznatom u kockarskim transakcijama.
Zatra?io sam povra?aj putem e-po?te na osnovu toga ?to jeste
Ono ?to su uradili bilo je nezakonito prema Visa/Mastercard.
Ova praksa, koja se obi?no naziva ?pranje transakcija", izri?ito je zabranjena Mastercard i Visa propisima. Prema Mastercard kodu povra?aja naplate 4840 (?Obrada la?ne transakcije"), ova vrsta la?nog predstavljanja kvalifikuje transakciju za povra?aj sredstava. Da je MCC kod ispravno pode?en kao transakcija u vezi sa kockanjem, ona bi bila blokirana ograni?enjima kockanja primenjenim na moj nalog.
Pored toga, Visa pravila o la?nom predstavljanju MCC-a potpadaju pod kod za povra?aj sredstava 13.5, koji se tako?e primenjuje u slu?ajevima kada trgovac pogre?no klasifikuje transakciju kako bi izbegao legitimna ograni?enja. Visa i Mastercard pravila su jasna: trgovci moraju da koriste ispravan MCC, a ako to ne urade, izla?u ih povra?aju sredstava.
S obzirom na okolnosti i jasno kr?enje pravila Mastercard i Visa, uz po?tovanje zahtevam da se pokrene povra?aj sredstava za ceo iznos spornih transakcija (svi depoziti napravljeni na platformi).
Po mom mi?ljenju, blokada naloga nije podr?ana nikakvim razlogom.
Hi Nick and thanks for the reply!
I will answer your questions:
Not
Not
If necessary, I'll post prints here with my request to them and their rejection for unknown reasons.
The problem honestly is not that, my problem is that different merchants appear on the bank statement, which offer everything other than gambling. That is my problem, why is the merchant code not 7995 and why do I not use my own provider under the merchant code known to gambling transactions.
I requested a refund by email on the grounds that it is
What they did was illegal according to Visa/Mastercard.
This practice, commonly referred to as "transaction laundering," is explicitly prohibited by Mastercard and Visa regulations. According to Mastercard chargeback code 4840 ("Fraudulent Transaction Processing"), this type of misrepresentation qualifies the transaction for a chargeback. If the MCC code had been correctly set as a gambling-related transaction, it would have been blocked by the gambling restrictions applied to my account.
Additionally, Visa’s rules on MCC misrepresentation fall under chargeback code 13.5, which also applies in cases where a merchant misclassifies a transaction to avoid legitimate restrictions. Visa and Mastercard’s rules are clear: merchants must use the correct MCC, and failure to do so exposes them to chargebacks.
Given the circumstances and the clear violation of Mastercard and Visa rules, I respectfully request that a chargeback be initiated for the entire amount of the disputed transactions (all deposits made on the platform).
In my opinion, the account blocking was not supported by any reason.
Buna Nick si multumesc de raspuns !
Am sa iti raspund la intrebari :
Nu
Nu
Daca e nevoie pun aici print-uri cu cererea mea catre ei si respingerea din partea lor cu motive necunoscute .
Problema sincer nu este asta , problema mea este ca pe extrasul bancar apar comercianti diferiti , care ofera orice altceva decat jocuri de noroc . Asta e problema mea , de ce nu este codul de comerciant 7995 si de ce nu folosesc providerul propriu sub codul de comerciant cunoscut tranzactiilor de jocuri de noroc .
Eu am cerut in email refund pe motiv ca este
ilegal ce au facut conform Visa/Mastercard .
Aceast? practic?, denumit? ?n mod obi?nuit ?sp?lare de tranzac?ii" (?transaction laundering"), este interzis? ?n mod explicit de reglement?rile Mastercard ?i Visa. Conform codului de chargeback 4840 al Mastercard (?Procesare frauduloas? a tranzac?iilor"), acest tip de denaturare calific? tranzac?ia pentru un chargeback. Dac? codul MCC ar fi fost setat corect ca o tranzac?ie legat? de jocuri de noroc, aceasta ar fi fost blocat? de restric?iile pentru jocuri de noroc aplicate contului meu.
?n plus, regulile Visa privind denaturarea codului MCC se ?ncadreaz? ?n codul de chargeback 13.5, care se aplic? ?i ?n cazurile ?n care un comerciant clasific? gre?it o tranzac?ie pentru a evita restric?iile legitime. Regulile Visa ?i Mastercard sunt clare: comercian?ii trebuie s? utilizeze codul MCC corect, iar nerespectarea acestui lucru ?i expune la cereri de chargeback.
Avand ?n vedere circumstan?ele ?i ?nc?lcarea clar? a regulilor Mastercard ?i Visa, solicit respectuos ini?ierea unui chargeback pentru ?ntreaga sum? a tranzac?iilor contestate (toate depozitele efectuate pe platform?).
Blocare contului dupa parerea mea nu a fost sustinuta de nici un fel de temei.
Osim ako depozit koji ste napravili – bez obzira na ime trgovca – nije pripisan va?em kazinu saldu, na?alost malo se toga mo?e u?initi u takvim slu?ajevima. Mnoga kazina koriste razli?ita imena trgovaca u zavisnosti od dobavlja?a pla?anja.
Mo?ete razmisliti o pokretanju povra?aja sredstava putem svog na?ina pla?anja, ali kazino nema obavezu da refundira bilo koji iznos ako je uspe?no kreditiran na va? ra?un.
Imajte na umu da dopunjavanje mo?e izazvati neke dodatne probleme i prilikom deponovanja u drugim kockarnicama.
Pored toga, po?to je va? kazino saldo bio nula, kazino ima pravo da blokira va? nalog bez navo?enja razloga, i od njih se ne tra?i da daju obja?njenje.
Postoji li jo? ne?to sa ?ime bismo vam mogli pomo?i?
Srda?an pozdrav,
Nick
Hello denispyth,
Unless the deposit you made—regardless of the merchant name—was not credited to your casino balance, there is unfortunately little that can be done in such cases. Many casinos use different merchant names depending on their payment provider.
You may consider initiating a chargeback through your payment method, but the casino has no obligation to refund any balance if it was successfully credited to your account.
Keep in mind that making recharges may cause some additional trouble when depositing into other casinos as well.
Additionally, since your casino balance was zero, the casino has the right to block your account without providing a reason, and they are not required to offer an explanation.
Dakle, po va?em mi?ljenju, da li je normalno koristiti drugi kod trgovca da biste zaobi?li sigurnost protiv kockanja?
Pitam trgovce koji su uplatili novac za ra?un, pa da vidim koju robu ili uslugu su mi ponudili tim novcem. Ne razumem kako mislite da je ova akcija legalna i moralna.
Po mom mi?ljenju, kazino bi trebalo da koristi svog provajdera isto kao i moj u Rumuniji. Sa za?titom od kockanja, oni ne mogu da naprave proboj bezbednosti s obzirom da koriste ?ifru 7995!
Jo? jednom, da li vam se ovo ?ini legalnim? I ako jeste, po kom osnovu? Od kada su uslovi i odredbe iznad zakona, ili od kada mo?emo da koristimo prodavce ode?e kada nudimo usluge kockanja?
Ovo nije normalno, zato sam do?ao da se ?alim. Nema problema, objavi?u o ovom kazinu gde god je to mogu?e radi anti-reklamiranja. Hvala vam!
Hello!
So in your opinion, is it normal to use another merchant code to bypass the anti-gambling security?
I ask the merchants who paid the money for a receipt, so I can see what goods or services they offered me with that money. I don't understand how you think this action is legal and moral.
In my opinion, the casino should use their provider exactly like mine in Romania. With security against gambling, they cannot create a security breach considering that they use the code 7995!
Once again, does this seem legal to you? And if so, on what grounds? Since when are T&Cs above the law, or since when can we use clothing retailers when offering gambling services?
This is not normal, that's why I came here to complain. No problem, I will post about this casino wherever possible for anti-advertising. Thank you!
Salutare !
Deci dupa parerea voastra , e normal sa se foloseasca alt cod de comerciant pentru a trece de securitatea impotriva jocurilor de noroc ?
Eu cer la comerciantii care au decontat banii o chitanta , sa vad si eu ce bunuri sau servicii mi-au oferit ei pe banii respectivi. Nu inteleg cum vi se pare legal si moral aceasta actiune .
Dupa parerea mea ar trebui ca respectivul cazino sa isi foloseasca providerul exact cum este la mine in Romania . Avand securitate impotriva jocurilor de noroc acestia nu pot forma bresa de securitate avand in vedere ca folosesc codul 7995 !
Inca o data , vi se pare legal? Si daca da pe ce temei? De cand sunt mai presus T&C decat legea , sau de cand putem sa folosim comercianti de haine cand oferim servicii de gambling ?
Nu e normal asa ceva , tocmai de asta am venit cu reclamatie aici. Nu e problema , o sa postez despre acest cazino oriunde posibil pentru anti-reclama . Multumesc !
Imajte na umu da je uobi?ajena praksa da mnoga kazina koriste provajdere pla?anja tre?ih strana. Ovo samo po sebi nije neobi?no niti ukazuje na bilo kakvo krivi?no delo. Ako ste deponovali sredstva i ta sredstva su uspe?no pripisana va?em kazino ra?unu, generalno se smatra da je usluga ispunjena.
Ako verujete da postoje posebni propisi ili nedoumice u vezi sa va?im dobavlja?em pla?anja, preporu?ujemo vam da se obratite direktno njima, jer je uloga kazina ograni?ena na kreditiranje primljenog iznosa — ?to se u ovom slu?aju ?ini da je ispravno ura?eno.
Po?to od vas nismo primili nijedan dodatni zahtev za pomo?, sada ?emo nastaviti sa zatvaranjem ove ?albe.
Ako vam bude potrebna dodatna podr?ka u budu?nosti, slobodno nas kontaktirajte.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Nick
Dear denispyth,
Thank you for your message.
Please note that it is common practice for many casinos to utilize third-party payment providers. This in itself is not unusual or indicative of any wrongdoing. If you have deposited funds and those funds have been successfully credited to your casino account, it is generally considered that the service has been fulfilled.
If you believe there are specific regulations or concerns related to your payment provider, we would recommend reaching out to them directly, as the casino's role is limited to crediting the amount received—which, in this case, appears to have been done correctly.
As we have not received any further requests for assistance from you, we will now proceed to close this complaint.
Should you require any additional support in the future, please don’t hesitate to contact us.
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