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The player from Peru faces difficulties withdrawing her funds from Nomini Casino due to a frustrating account verification process. Despite submitting requested documents before moving to Spain, she receives contradictory additional requests that cannot be fulfilled from her current location. She seeks intervention to retrieve her funds, totaling S/1,050, while emphasizing her willingness to comply with verification requirements.
Igra?ica iz Perua se suo?ava sa pote?ko?ama prilikom povla?enja svojih sredstava iz kazina Nomini zbog frustriraju?eg procesa verifikacije naloga. Uprkos tome ?to je podnela tra?ena dokumenta pre preseljenja u ?paniju, dobija kontradiktorne dodatne zahteve koji se ne mogu ispuniti sa njene trenutne lokacije. Ona tra?i intervenciju kako bi povratila svoja sredstva, u ukupnom iznosu od 1.050 S/1.050, isti?u?i svoju spremnost da se pridr?ava zahteva za verifikaciju.
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?eleo bih da zamolim za va?u intervenciju u vezi sa problemom koji sam imao sa Nomini kazinom u vezi sa verifikacijom mog naloga. Situacija je bila frustriraju?a i smatram da kladionica nije postupila fer ili profesionalno.
Pre nego ?to sam krenuo iz Perua za ?paniju, ve? sam poslao potrebna dokumenta za verifikaciju mog ra?una (u to vreme su me SAMO tra?ili za fotografiju mog li?nog dokumenta i izvoda iz banke) .
Sve je ukazivalo na to da je proces u toku ili zavr?en. Me?utim, kada sam stigao u ?paniju, po?eo sam da dobijam dodatne zahteve za verifikaciju. Kontradiktorno je to ?to sam kazino priznaje da je njegova veb stranica ograni?ena u ?paniji, tako da mi je bilo nemogu?e da ispunim ove nove zahteve sa moje trenutne lokacije.
Umesto da od samog po?etka zahteva sva dokumenta , Nomini se odlu?io da podnosi zahteve postepeno iz nedelje u nedelju, ?to je samo izazvalo zabunu, neizvesnost i zna?ajno gubljenje vremena. Da su od samog po?etka dobili kompletan i kona?an spisak, ovaj problem se ne bi pojavio.
?elim da pojasnim da nikada nisam odbio da verifikujem svoj nalog . Naprotiv, uvek sam bio spreman da se pridr?avam utvr?enih zahteva. Ali neorganizovano upravljanje procesom je bila glavna prepreka.
Proces verifikacije sam zapo?eo 15. novembra 2024. godine, dok sam jo? bio u Peruu. Platforma Nomini mi nije dozvoljavala da direktno otpremim svoja dokumenta, pa sam ih poslao imejlom. Od tada je po?eo lanac kontradiktornih i zbunjuju?ih zahteva:
Prvo su mi rekli da moja li?na karta nije va?e?a i da moram da po?aljem paso?, ?to sam i u?inio.
Onda su rekli da paso? nije dovoljan i da im je potrebna voza?ka dozvola, dokument koji ja nemam jer ne posedujem vozilo.
Posle skoro tri nedelje prepirki, kona?no su prihvatili moju li?nu kartu.
Tra?ili su mi izvod iz banke, koji sam poslao, ali su rekli da nije jasan. Ponovo sam ga poslao nekoliko puta dok ga nisu prihvatili.
?injenica:
(Ovo mo?ete bolje razumeti uz prilo?ene snimke ekrana.) Rekao sam im da sam oti?ao u ?paniju, zbog ?ega nisam mogao da nastavim verifikaciju. Kao odgovor, pogre?no su shvatili da sam upravo oti?ao u ?paniju i rekli su mi da nema problema, da mogu da nastavim verifikaciju kada se vratim u Peru. Kada sam pojasnio da sam ve? nazad u Peruu, rekli su mi da ?e razgovarati sa nadle?nim odeljenjem kako bi nastavili proces. Me?utim, kasnije su odgovorili da nije mogu?e ponovo otvoriti slu?aj jer je pro?lo 30 radnih dana utvr?enih njihovim uslovima i odredbama.
?elim da razjasnim slede?e:
Nikada nisam odbio da po?aljem dokumenta. Uvek sam bio spreman da sara?ujem u verifikaciji.
Proces je bio spor i frustriraju?i jer su tra?ili dokumenta po delovima, sa nedeljnim obave?tenjem izme?u svakog zahteva, umesto da zahtevaju sve od po?etka.
Ako je va?a platforma ograni?ena u ?paniji, za?to niste pokazali empatiju od samog po?etka, predla?u?i da sa?ekam dok se ne vratim u Peru da bih nastavio proces?
Ka?njenja su uglavnom uzrokovana timom za podr?ku, koji je prvo odbijao dokumente, a zatim, nedeljama kasnije, prihvatao ih bez ikakvog o?iglednog razloga.
Iako sam prekora?io rok, nastavili su da tra?e dokumenta od mene i nakon isteka roka od 30 dana, ?to je u suprotnosti sa njihovom sopstvenom politikom.
Zaklju?no, ova situacija je od samog po?etka bila lo?e vo?ena. Postojao je o?igledan nedostatak komunikacije, malo transparentnosti u procesu i nikakva obzirnost operatera prema korisniku. Nisam odbio da se pridr?avam bilo kakvih zahteva; sistem i osoblje su jednostavno zakazale u svojim procedurama.
Iz svih gore navedenih razloga, ljubazno molim Casino Guru da interveni?e kako bi Nomini Casino vratio sredstva (ako je potrebna verifikacija, nemam problem, ali ono ?to me zanima je novac unutra, a to je 1.050 S/). Ne mislim da je fer da mi zatvore ra?un i zadr?e novac nakon ?to sam u?inio sve ?to je mogu?e da ispunim njihove zahteve, uprkos preprekama koje su sami nametnuli.
Veoma cenim va?u pa?nju i radujem se svim dodatnim informacijama koje bi vam mogle biti potrebne da nastavite sa ovim slu?ajem.
I would like to request your intervention regarding an issue I had with Nomini Casino regarding my account verification. The situation has been frustrating, and I feel the bookmaker has not handled it fairly or professionally.
Before leaving Peru for Spain, I had already sent the necessary documents to verify my account (at that time they ONLY asked me for a photo of my ID and bank statement) .
Everything indicated that the process was in progress or complete. However, once in Spain, I began receiving additional verification requests. The contradictory thing is that the casino itself acknowledges that its website is restricted in Spain, so it was impossible for me to complete these new requests from my current location.
Instead of requesting all the documents from the start , Nomini opted to make staggered requests week by week, which only caused confusion, uncertainty, and a considerable waste of time. Had they received a complete and definitive list from the start, this problem would not have arisen.
I want to clarify that I never refused to verify my account . On the contrary, I was always willing to comply with the established requirements. But the disorganized management of the process has been the main obstacle.
I began my verification process on November 15, 2024, while still in Peru. The Nomini platform didn't allow me to upload my documents directly, so I sent them via email. Since then, a chain of contradictory and confusing requests began:
First they told me that my ID was not valid and that I had to send a passport, which I did.
Then they said a passport wasn't enough and they needed a driver's license, a document I don't have because I don't own a vehicle.
After almost three weeks of back and forth, they finally accepted my ID.
They asked me for a bank statement, which I sent, but they said it wasn't clear. I resent it several times until they accepted it.
A fact:
(You can better understand this with the attached screenshots.) I told them I had gone to Spain, which is why I couldn't continue the verification. In response, they mistakenly understood that I had just left for Spain and told me it was no problem, that I could resume the verification once I returned to Peru. When I clarified that I was already back in Peru, they told me they would speak with the responsible department to continue the process. However, they later responded that it was not possible to reopen the case because the 30 business days established in their terms and conditions had passed.
I want to make the following clear:
I never refused to send documents. I was always willing to cooperate with the verification.
The process was slow and frustrating because they requested documents piecemeal, with a week's notice between each request, instead of requiring everything from the start.
If your platform is restricted in Spain, why didn't you show empathy from the start, suggesting I wait until I return to Peru to continue the process?
The delays were largely caused by the support team, which first rejected documents and then, weeks later, accepted them for no apparent reason.
Even though I had exceeded the deadline, they continued to request documents from me after the 30-day limit, which contradicts their own policy.
In conclusion, this situation was mismanaged from the start. There was a clear lack of communication, little transparency in the process, and no consideration from the operator for the user. I didn't refuse to comply with any requirements; the system and staff simply failed in their procedures.
For all the above reasons, I kindly request that Casino Guru intervene so that Nomini Casino returns the funds (if verification is necessary, I have no problem, but what I'm interested in is the money inside, which is S/1,050). I don't think it's fair that they close my account and keep my money after I've done everything possible to comply with their demands, despite the obstacles they themselves have imposed.
I deeply appreciate your attention and look forward to any additional information you may need to proceed with this case.
Quisiera solicitar su intervención en un problema que he tenido con el casino Nomini, relacionado con la verificación de mi cuenta. La situación ha sido frustrante y considero que no se ha manejado de forma justa ni profesional por parte de la casa de apuestas.
Antes de salir de Perú rumbo a Espa?a, ya había enviado los documentos necesarios para verificar mi cuenta (en ese entonces me solicitaron UNICAMENTE foto de mi DNI y extracto bancario).
Todo indicaba que el proceso estaba en curso o finalizado. Sin embargo, una vez en Espa?a, comencé a recibir solicitudes adicionales de verificación. Lo contradictorio es que el mismo casino reconoce que su página está restringida en Espa?a, por lo que me fue imposible completar estas nuevas exigencias desde mi ubicación actual.
En lugar de pedir todos los documentos desde un inicio, Nomini optó por hacer solicitudes escalonadas semana a semana, lo cual solo generó confusión, incertidumbre y una pérdida considerable de tiempo. De haber recibido una lista completa y definitiva desde el comienzo, este problema no habría existido.
Aclaro que nunca me negué a verificar mi cuenta. Por el contrario, siempre estuve dispuesta a cumplir con los requisitos establecidos. Pero el desorden en la gestión del proceso ha sido el principal obstáculo.
Inicié mi proceso de verificación el 15 de noviembre de 2024, cuando aún me encontraba en Perú. La plataforma de Nomini no me permitía subir mis documentos directamente, por lo que los envié vía correo electrónico. Desde entonces, comenzó una cadena de solicitudes contradictorias y confusas:
Primero me indicaron que mi DNI no era válido y que debía enviar un pasaporte, lo cual hice.
Luego, dijeron que el pasaporte no era suficiente y que necesitaban una licencia de conducir, documento que no poseo porque no tengo vehículo.
Después de casi tres semanas de idas y vueltas, finalmente aceptaron mi DNI.
Me pidieron un extracto bancario, lo envié, pero decían que no era claro. Lo reenvié varias veces hasta que lo aceptaron.
Un dato:
(con las capturas adjuntadas podrán entender mejor) , yo les digo que me había ido a Espa?a que por eso no podía continuar la verificación. En respuesta, ellos entendieron erróneamente que recién me había ido a Espa?a, y me respondieron que no había problema, que podía retomar la verificación una vez regresara a Perú. Cuando les aclaré que ya estaba de regreso en Perú, me indicaron que hablarían con el área encargada para continuar el proceso. Sin embargo, posteriormente me respondieron que no era posible reabrir el caso porque habían pasado los 30 días hábiles, como se establece en sus términos y condiciones.
Quiero dejar en claro lo siguiente:
Nunca me negué a enviar documentos. Siempre estuve dispuesta a colaborar con la verificación.
El proceso fue lento y frustrante porque ellos mismos pedían documentos por partes, con una semana de diferencia entre cada solicitud, en lugar de requerir todo desde el principio.
Si su plataforma está restringida en Espa?a, ?por qué no mostraron empatía desde el primer momento, sugiriéndome esperar a volver a Perú para continuar con el proceso?
Las demoras fueron causadas en gran parte por el equipo de soporte, que primero rechazaba documentos para luego, semanas después, aceptarlos sin razón aparente.
A pesar de haber superado el plazo, ellos mismos seguían pidiéndome documentos luego del límite de 30 días, lo que contradice su propia política.
En conclusión, esta situación fue mal gestionada desde el inicio. Hubo una clara falta de comunicación, poca transparencia en el proceso y ninguna consideración por parte del operador hacia el usuario. No me negué a cumplir con ningún requisito, simplemente el sistema y el personal fallaron en su procedimiento.
Por todo lo anterior, solicito amablemente que Casino Guru intervenga para que el casino Nomini devuelva los fondos (si es necesario verificarlo no tengo problema , pero lo que me interesa es el dinero dentro que es de S/1050) . No considero justo que me cierren la cuenta y se queden con mi dinero después de haber hecho todo lo posible por cumplir con sus exigencias, pese a los obstáculos que ellos mismos impusieron.
Agradezco profundamente su atención y quedo atenta a cualquier información adicional que necesiten para proceder con este caso.
Hvala vam puno ?to ste podneli ?albu. ?ao mi je ?to ste imali problem sa procesom verifikacije u kazinu Nomini. Razumemo koliko vam ova situacija mora biti frustriraju?a.
Da bismo vam bolje pomogli, mo?ete li nam pru?iti neke dodatne detalje u vezi sa va?om situacijom? Konkretno, ?eleo bih da pitam:
Da li dobro razumem da trenutno nemate pristup svom kazino nalogu?
Mo?ete li, molim vas, pojasniti kada ste se ta?no vratili iz ?panije?
Da li ste dostavili neka dokumenta koja jo? nisu odobrena?
Va?a saradnja u pru?anju ovih podataka pomo?i ?e nam da istra?imo i radimo na re?enju. ?elimo da osiguramo da svi aspekti va?eg slu?aja budu temeljno pregledani kako bismo vam pomogli na najbolji mogu?i na?in.
Nadam se da ?emo mo?i da vam pomognemo da re?ite ovaj problem ?to je pre mogu?e.
Unapred hvala na va?em odgovoru.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Kristina
Dear lazol3109,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem with the verification process at Nomini Casino. We understand how frustrating this situation must be for you.
To better assist you, could you please provide us with some additional details regarding your situation? Specifically, I would like to ask:
Do I understand correctly that you currently don't have access to your casino account?
Could you please clarify when exactly you returned from Spain?
Have you provided any documents that have not yet been approved?
Your cooperation in providing these details will help us investigate and work towards a resolution. We want to ensure that all aspects of your case are thoroughly reviewed to assist you in the best possible way.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible.
Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Kristina
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Razumem da su vam potrebni konkretni odgovori, ali mislim da je va?no dati detaljno obja?njenje kako bi se situacija bolje razumela i ovo pitanje pravedno re?ilo.
Nemam nikakav pristup svom nalogu; nisam mogao da se prijavim ve? neko vreme. Me?utim, jasno se se?am iznosa koji sam imao na raspolaganju, jer veoma pa?ljivo upravljam svojim novcem. Stanje na ra?unu je bilo 1.050 singapurskih dolara.
U?ao sam u ?paniju 7. decembra, a vratio se 4. februara. Tokom celog tog vremena, bio sam u kontaktu sa njima putem imejla, tra?e?i od njih da mi dostave sva potrebna dokumenta za zavr?etak verifikacije. Me?utim, njihov stalni odgovor je bio da moram ponovo da po?aljem istu fotografiju svoje li?ne karte ili paso?a, po deseti put. Slo?io sam se, iako sam ve? bio frustriran, jer mi se ?inilo da samo gube vreme. Posle 7. decembra, pisao sam im poja?njavaju?i da putujem i molio ih da sa?ekaju dok se ne vratim kako bih mogao da zavr?im verifikaciju. Nikada nisam odbio da po?aljem bilo koji dokument, ali su stalno odbijali moja dokumenta i na kraju su ih prihvatili bez problema, kao da se ni?ta nije dogodilo. (I samo su mi gubili vreme.) ?ak su me tra?ili i za fotografiju sa pozadinom na kojoj se vidi moj Nomini nalog, gde je bilo vidljivo moje korisni?ko ime. Ali nisam mogao da se prijavim iz ?panije, jer Nomini kladionica ne dozvoljava pristup iz te zemlje. Vredi napomenuti da je verifikacija po?ela 15. novembra i, iako je pro?lo vi?e od 30 radnih dana, oni su stalno tra?ili isti dokument, tvrde?i da je ?ne?itljiv". Sve me je to navelo na pomisao da jednostavno poku?avaju namerno da odlo?e proces.
Pitali su me:
DNI: Poslao sam ga i rekli su mi da nije ?itljivo.
Paso?: I ja sam ga poslao i odbijen je.
Tra?ili su mi voza?ku dozvolu, ali je nemam, i objasnio sam im to. I dalje su insistirali da tra?e drugi dokument. Posle nekoliko nedelja, kona?no su prihvatili moju li?nu kartu.
Zatim su me zamolili za izvod iz banke, koji je tako?e nekoliko puta odbijen dok kona?no nije odobren.
Jedino ?to nisam mogao da po?aljem u tom trenutku bio je selfi sa ra?unarom na kojem se vidi otvoreni ra?un, jer, kao ?to sam napomenuo, nisam mogao da se prijavim iz ?panije. Me?utim, ve? vi?e od mesec dana sam u Peruu i mogu da po?aljem tu fotografiju bez ikakvih problema, ali Nomini i dalje odbija da komunicira sa mnom. Njihov tim ne pokazuje empatiju.
Ponavljam da sam uvek bio spreman da sara?ujem i po?aljem sva tra?ena dokumenta, i da sam i dalje spreman da dopunim sve ?to nedostaje kako bi se re?io ovaj slu?aj.
I understand that you need concrete answers, but I think it's important to provide a detailed explanation so that the situation can be better understood and this issue resolved fairly.
I have no access to my account at all; I haven't been able to log in for a while. However, I clearly remember the amount I had available, as I'm very careful with my money management. The balance in the account was S/ 1,050.
I entered Spain on December 7th and returned on February 4th. During this entire time, I was in contact with them via email, asking them to provide me with all the necessary documents to complete the verification. However, their constant response was that I had to send the same photo of my ID or passport again, for the tenth time. I agreed, although I was already frustrated, as it seemed they were just wasting my time. After December 7th, I wrote to them clarifying that I was traveling and asking them to wait until I returned so I could complete the verification. I never refused to send any documents, but they kept rejecting my documents, and in the end, they accepted them without a problem, as if nothing had happened. (And just wasting my time.) They even asked me for a photo with my wallpaper showing my Nomini account, where my username was visible. But I couldn't log in from Spain, as the Nomini bookmaker doesn't allow access from that country. It's worth mentioning that verification began on November 15th, and even though more than 30 business days had passed, they kept asking for the same document over and over again, claiming it was "illegible." All of this made me think they were simply trying to deliberately delay the process.
They asked me:
DNI: I sent it and they told me it wasn't legible.
Passport: I also sent it and it was rejected.
They asked me for a driver's license, but I don't have one, and I explained it to them. They still insisted on asking for another document. After several weeks, they finally accepted my ID.
They then asked me for a bank statement, which was also rejected several times until it was finally approved.
The only thing I couldn't send at the time was the selfie with my computer showing the open account, since, as I mentioned, I couldn't log in from Spain. However, I've been in Peru for over a month now and I can send that photo without any problem, but Nomini continues to refuse to engage with me. Their team shows no empathy.
I reiterate that I have always been willing to cooperate and send all the requested documents, and I am still willing to complete whatever is missing to resolve this case.
Entiendo que necesitan respuestas concretas, pero considero importante brindar una explicación detallada para que se pueda comprender mejor la situación y resolver este problema de forma justa.
No tengo acceso a mi cuenta en absoluto; no puedo ingresar desde hace tiempo. Sin embargo, recuerdo con total claridad el monto que tenía disponible, ya que soy muy cuidadosa con el manejo de mi dinero. El saldo dentro de la cuenta era de S/ 1,050.
Ingresé a Espa?a el 7 de diciembre y regresé el 4 de febrero. Durante todo ese tiempo estuve en contacto con ellos por correo electrónico, pidiéndoles que me indicaran todos los documentos necesarios para completar la verificación. Sin embargo, su respuesta constante era que debía volver a enviar, por décima vez, la misma foto de mi DNI o pasaporte. Yo accedía, aunque ya estaba frustrada, ya que parecía que solo querían hacerme perder el tiempo. Después del 7 de diciembre, les escribí aclarando que me encontraba de viaje y les pedí que esperaran a que regresara para poder completar la verificación. Jamás me negué a enviar ningún documento, pero ellos insistían en rechazar mis documentos una y otra vez, y al final terminaron aceptándolos sin problema, como si nada hubiera pasado. (Y solo haciéndome perder el tiempo) Incluso me solicitaron una foto con mi fondo de pantalla mostrando la cuenta abierta en Nomini, donde se viera el nombre de usuario. Pero yo no podía ingresar desde Espa?a, ya que la casa de apuestas Nomini no permite el acceso desde ese país. Cabe mencionar que la verificación inició el 15 de noviembre, y aun habiendo pasado más de 30 días hábiles, seguían pidiendo el mismo documento una y otra vez, alegando que era "ilegible". Todo esto me hizo pensar que simplemente estaban tratando de retrasar el proceso a propósito.
Me solicitaron:
DNI: lo envié y me dijeron que no era legible.
Pasaporte: también lo envié y lo rechazaron.
Me pidieron carnet de conducir, pero no tengo ese documento, y se los aclaré. Aun así, insistieron en pedir otro documento. Después de varias semanas, finalmente aceptaron mi DNI.
Luego me pidieron un extracto bancario, que también fue rechazado varias veces hasta que finalmente fue aprobado.
Lo único que no pude enviar en su momento fue la fotoselfie con mi PC mostrando la cuenta abierta, ya que, como mencioné, no podía ingresar desde Espa?a. Sin embargo, ya estoy en Perú desde hace más de un mes y puedo enviar esa foto sin ningún problema, pero Nomini siguen cerrándose al diálogo. No hay empatía por parte de su equipo.
Reitero que siempre estuve dispuesta a colaborar y a enviar todos los documentos solicitados, y aún estoy dispuesta a completar lo que falte para resolver este caso.
Hvala vam puno na odgovoru, lazol3109. Mo?ete li, molim vas, proslediti svu relevantnu komunikaciju izme?u vas i kazina [email protected] Alternativno, mo?ete ga objaviti ovde. Hvala unapred.
Thank you very much for your reply, lazol3109. Could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to [email protected]? Alternatively, you can post it here. Thank you in advance.
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Zdravo, ima mnogo razgovora, zato sam vam ih upravo poslao na imejl koji ste naveli, hvala vam puno.
Hello, there are many conversations, that's why I just sent them to you by the email you indicated, thank you very much.
Buenas , son muchas conversaciones es por eso que se los acabo de enviar por el correo que me indico , muchas gracias
Hvala vam puno, lazol3109, na saradnji. Sada ?u va?u ?albu proslediti kolegi Branislavu ( [email protected] ) koji ?e vam biti na usluzi. ?elim vam puno sre?e i nadam se da ?e problem biti re?en na va?e zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budu?nosti.
Thank you very much, lazol3109, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Branislav ([email protected]) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
?ao mi je ?to ste imali neprijatno iskustvo i izvinjavam se zbog ka?njenja. Kontaktira?u kazino i potrudi?u se da ?to pre re?im problem.
Sada bih ?eleo da pozovem predstavnika kazina da se pridru?i ovom razgovoru i u?estvuje u re?avanju ove ?albe.
Po?tovani time kazina Nomini ,
Mo?ete li, molim vas, da ispitate problem korisnice i da nam pru?ite obja?njenje? Za?to joj je nalog blokiran/zatvoren? Da li su joj dobici oduzeti?
Ako govorimo o kr?enju Uslova i odredbi kazina i bilo koji deo njenog dobitka/salda je konfiskovan, da li kazino mo?e da potkrepi svoje tvrdnje i odluku relevantnim dokazima?
Me?utim, pod uslovom da sve ?to je podnosilac ?albe tvrdila odgovara stvarnosti i da je kazino redovno obave?ten o njenoj situaciji i boravku u inostranstvu tokom perioda kada se odvijala njena KYC provera, da li bi kazino mogao jednostavno da vrati njen nalog i/ili da nastavi proces verifikacije od ta?ke u kojoj je bio ?pauziran" zbog boravka u drugoj zemlji?
S obzirom na ?injenicu da je obavestila kazino o tome, i koliko sam mogao da vidim, nije poku?ala da zaobi?e sistemska pode?avanja kazina ili ograni?enja zemlje (VPN) kako bi pro?la KYC, bilo bi veoma zahvalno ako bi joj se pru?ila prilika da to uradi, a tako?e, ako je mogu?e, i dalja uputstva o svim dokumentima koja su kazinu potrebna od nje.
Ako je potrebno ili ako postoji ne?to bitno ?to nije pomenuto, a ?to bi moglo zna?ajno da promeni na?e gledi?te, slobodno po?aljite potrebne detalje i prate?e dokaze na moju imejl adresu ( [email protected] ).
Hvala vam.
Hello, lazol3109,
I am sorry to hear about your unpleasant experience and apologize for the delay. I will contact the casino and try my best to resolve the issue as soon as possible.
Now I would like to invite the casino representative to join this conversation and participate in resolving this complaint.
Dear Nomini Casino Team,
Could you please look into the user's issue and provide us with an explanation? Why has her account been blocked/closed? Have her winnings been confiscated?
If we are talking about a breach of the casino's Terms and Conditions, and any portion of her winnings/balance was confiscated, is the casino able to substantiate its claims and decision with relevant evidence?
However, provided that everything the complainant claimed fits the reality, and the casino was regularly informed about her situation and being abroad during the time her KYC was taking place, could the casino simply restore her account and/or continue the verification process from the point it was 'paused' due to staying in another country?
Considering the fact that she informed the casino about it, and as I could see, she did not try to bypass any casino's system settings or country restrictions (VPN) to pass the KYC, it would be highly appreciated if she is provided with a chance to complete it, also if possible, with further instructions about all the documents the casino needs from her.
If needed or if there is something essential that was not mentioned but could significantly change our point of view, feel free to send the necessary details and supporting evidence to my email address ([email protected]).
Thank you.
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Bio sam svestan da promena VPN-a predstavlja rizik, jer je to jasno zabranjeno uslovima i odredbama kladionice i s pravom bi moglo dovesti do zatvaranja naloga i gubitka sredstava. Me?utim, ?elim da bude jasno da to nisam uradio.
Pre nego ?to sam napustio zemlju, obavestio sam kladionicu o svom putovanju i zamolio ih da ubrzaju proces verifikacije. Me?utim, kada sam bio u inostranstvu, po?eo sam da dobijam imejlove sa zahtevima za nove dokumente, koje, na?alost, nisam mogao da dostavim jer Nomini nije dozvoljen u zemlji u kojoj sam bio.
?elim da naglasim da nikada nisam odbio da verifikujem svoj nalog. Poku?ao sam, ali po?to su svake nedelje tra?ili nova dokumenta, nisam bio u mogu?nosti da zavr?im proces pre putovanja. Uprkos tome, potpuno sam spreman da verifikujem svoj nalog sada kada mogu.
Jedino ?to me zanima je da vratim novac koji imam na ra?unu (1.050 sola ). Ne smeta mi da ra?un ostane zatvoren; samo me brine novac, jer mi je zaista potreban.
I was aware that changing the VPN posed a risk, as it's clearly prohibited in the bookmaker's terms and conditions, and could rightfully lead to account closure and loss of funds. However, I want to make it clear that I didn't do that.
Before leaving the country, I informed the bookmaker about my trip and asked them to please expedite the verification process. However, once I was abroad, I started receiving emails requesting new documents, which, unfortunately, I couldn't provide because Nomini isn't allowed in the country I was in.
I want to emphasize that I never refused to verify my account. I tried, but since they asked for new documents every week, I wasn't able to complete the process before traveling. Even so, I'm fully prepared to verify my account now that I can.
The only thing I care about is getting back the money I have in the account (1,050 soles ). I'm fine with the account remaining closed; I'm just worried about the money, since I really need it.
Yo era consciente de que cambiar el VPN representaba un riesgo, ya que está claramente prohibido en los términos y condiciones de la casa de apuestas, lo que podría conllevar al cierre de la cuenta y la pérdida del dinero, con justa razón. Sin embargo, quiero dejar en claro que no hice eso.
Antes de salir del país, avisé a la casa de apuestas sobre mi viaje y pedí que por favor aceleraran el proceso de verificación. Aun así, estando ya en el extranjero, comencé a recibir correos solicitando nuevos documentos que, lamentablemente, no podía proporcionar debido a que Nomini no está permitido en el país en el que me encontraba.
Quiero recalcar que jamás me negué a verificar mi cuenta. Intenté hacerlo, pero como cada semana pedían documentos nuevos, no logré completar el proceso antes de viajar. Aun así, estoy totalmente dispuesta a verificar mi cuenta ahora que puedo.
Lo único que me interesa es recuperar el dinero que tengo dentro de la cuenta (1,050 soles). No tengo problema si la cuenta permanece cerrada, solo me preocupa el dinero, ya que realmente lo necesito.
Hvala vam na anga?ovanju i pru?anju potrebnih detalja u vezi sa ovim slu?ajem.
Nakon sveobuhvatnog pregleda, ?elimo da pojasnimo da igra?ev nalog ne?e biti ponovo otvoren. Proces verifikacije nije zavr?en u roku od 30 radnih dana predvi?enom u na?im Uslovima i odredbama 5.3. Uprkos kontinuiranoj komunikaciji, potrebna dokumenta nisu u potpunosti dostavljena tokom ovog perioda.
Tako?e napominjemo da se igra? na koji se pozivamo nalazi u zemlji sa ograni?enjima; me?utim, u to vreme nam nije jasno navedena nijedna konkretna zemlja koja bi nam omogu?ila da ponudimo re?enje koje je u skladu sa propisima ili odgovaraju?e smernice. Na?e procedure verifikacije su dosledne i obavezne, a odgovornost svakog igra?a je da obezbedi blagovremenu uskla?enost ili da nas unapred obavesti o svim okolnostima koje mogu ometati proces.
Iako razumemo frustraciju igra?a, trebalo bi da postupamo u skladu sa na?im regulatornim obavezama i internim politikama kako bismo osigurali fer i bezbedno poslovanje za sve korisnike.
Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Tim kazina Nomini
Dear all,
Thank you for your engagement and for providing the necessary details regarding this case.
Following a comprehensive review, we would like to clarify that the player's account will not be reopened. The verification process was not completed within the 30-business-day timeframe stipulated in our Terms and Conditions 5.3. Despite ongoing communication, the necessary documents were not submitted in full during this period.
We also note the player referenced being in a restricted country; however, no specific country was clearly stated to us at the time that could have allowed us to offer a compliant solution or appropriate guidance. Our verification procedures are consistent and mandatory, and it is each player's responsibility to ensure timely compliance or notify us in advance of any circumstances that may hinder the process.
While we understand the player’s frustration, we should act in accordance with our regulatory obligations and internal policies to ensure fair and secure operations for all users.
Thank you for your understanding.
Best regards,
Nomini Casino Team
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Pre svega, ?elim da bude jasno da ne tra?im ponovno otvaranje mog naloga , jer sam iskreno veoma obeshrabren ?to sam verovao kladionici koja ne pokazuje razumevanje prema svojim korisnicima. Moj jedini interes je da povratim novac koji imam na ra?unu , jer je to zna?ajan iznos za mene, i ovo ka?em sa svim du?nim po?tovanjem.
?to se ti?e prvog pasusa va?eg odgovora:
Niste odr?avali kontinuiranu komunikaciju. Odgovarali ste sporadi?no ili ste ?ak potpuno prestali da odgovarate na nekoliko dana. To je u?inilo proces veoma frustriraju?im.
?to se ti?e druge ta?ke koju pominjete:
Obavestio sam ih putem ?askanja u?ivo (koje, koliko razumem, mo?ete pregledati po?to imate istoriju ?askanja). Pre 20. decembra sam nazna?io da mi je hitno potrebno da zavr?im proces jer sam putovao u ?paniju. Iako se ne se?am ta?no ?ta sam rekao, mislim da sam ih zamolio da sa?ekaju dok ne stignem odatle da bi nastavili sa verifikacijom. Odgovorili su da ?e se ?nadle?no odeljenje pobrinuti za to".
Va?no je da sam obavestio sve pre, tokom i posle problema da ?u biti u ?paniji. Iako nemam snimke ekrana ?askanja u?ivo, trebalo bi da ih imate. Imam snimke ekrana na kojima navodim da sam bio u ?paniji tokom i posle onoga ?to se dogodilo.
O tre?oj ta?ki:
Koju proceduru pratite kada korisnik ne mo?e da zavr?i verifikaciju zbog vi?e sile? Ne mislim da vam nedostaje empatije za situaciju va?ih korisnika, zar ne?
U mom slu?aju, imao sam problema da mi prihvate li?ni dokument. Ne se?am se da li sam poslao i izvod iz banke, ali sam se potrudio da zavr?im verifikaciju pre nego ?to sam napustio zemlju. (?ak je i ono ?to su me kasnije pitali bilo apsolutno neophodno da se prijavim na nalog jer su me zamolili da napravim selfi sa profilom mog Nomini naloga u pozadini — ?to ne mogu da uradim jer je njihova stranica ograni?ena u ?paniji.)
Moje pitanje je: Kako postupa ugledna i pouzdana kladionica u ovim slu?ajevima? Da li ostavlja korisnika bez opcija, kao ?to se meni de?ava?
*Dok sam ve? putovao, zamoljeni su me za dodatni zahtev, iako sam ve? poslao li?nu kartu i izvod iz banke . Tra?ili su mi selfi sa li?nom kartom u ruci i prikazom mog Nomini profila na ekranu.
Me?utim, kao ?to sam ve? objasnio, to mi je bilo veoma te?ko jer, budu?i da sam bio u ?paniji, nisam mogao da pristupim njihovoj veb stranici, ?to me je spre?ilo da ispunim taj zahtev.
Unapred vam se zahvaljujem na pa?nji i radujem se pravednom re?enju u skladu sa vrednostima odgovorne platforme.
* Molim vas da pa?ljivo pro?itate prilo?eni snimak ekrana. Ta poruka mi je poslata 8. aprila i u njoj je nazna?eno da, kada se vratim u svoju zemlju, mogu da nastavim sa procesom verifikacije kako bih nastavio da koristim njihove usluge.
Me?utim, ?elim da jednu stvar razjasnim: ve? sam bio u Peruu od marta, i kada sam ih obavestio da sam tamo, jednostavno su prestali da odgovaraju. Pa ?ta se desilo? Da li su lagali kada su rekli da ?u mo?i da verifikujem svoj nalog bez ikakvih problema po povratku?
?tavi?e, u istoj toj poruci potvr?ujete da ne dozvoljavate pristup nalozima iz ?panije, ?to potvr?uje ono ?to sam ranije pomenuo: tokom boravka u toj zemlji nisam mogao da ispunim odre?ene zahteve, kao ?to je pravljenje selfija na kojem vidim svoj profil, jer nisam mogao ni da pristupim njihovoj veb stranici.
Uz sve to obja?njeno... Ako ?elite da napravim 50 fotografija ili da ispunim vi?e uslova, uradi?u to bez problema. Ali jedino ?to me zanima je da dobijem svoj novac nazad, jer mi je bio toliko potreban u protekla ?etiri meseca.
First of all, I want to make it clear that I'm not requesting my account be reopened , as I'm sincerely very discouraged to have trusted a bookmaker that shows no understanding toward its users. My only interest is to recover the money I have in my account , as it's a considerable amount for me, and I say this with all due respect.
Regarding the first paragraph of your answer:
You didn't maintain ongoing communication. You responded sporadically or even stopped responding altogether for several days. This made the process very frustrating.
Regarding the second point you mention:
I did inform them via live chat (which, I understand, you can review since you have a chat history). Before December 20th, I indicated that I urgently needed to complete the process because I had a trip to Spain. While I don't remember exactly what I said, I believe I asked them to wait until I arrived from there to continue the verification. They responded that "the responsible department would take care of it."
The important thing here is that I notified everyone before, during, and after the problem that I would be in Spain. While I don't have screenshots of the live chat, you should have them. I do have screenshots in which I state that I was in Spain during and after what happened.
On the third point:
What procedure do you follow when a user can't complete their verification due to force majeure? I don't think you lack empathy for your users' situation, do you?
In my case, I struggled to get my ID accepted. I don't remember if I also sent my bank statement, but I did do my best to complete verification before leaving the country. (Even what they asked me afterward was absolutely necessary to log in to my account because they asked me to take a selfie with my Nomini account profile in the background—which I can't do because their page is restricted in Spain.)
My question is: How does a reputable and reliable bookmaker act in these cases? Does it leave the user without options, as is happening to me?
*While I was already traveling, I was asked for an additional request, even though I had already sent my ID and bank statement . They asked me for a selfie holding my ID and showing my Nomini profile on a screen.
However, as I had already explained, that was very difficult for me because, being in Spain, I couldn't access their website, which prevented me from complying with that requirement.
I thank you in advance for your attention and look forward to a fair solution consistent with the values of a responsible platform.
* I ask that you please read the attached screenshot carefully. That message was sent to me on April 8th, and it indicated that once I returned to my country, I could continue with the verification process to continue using their services.
However, I want to make one thing very clear: I'd already been in Peru since March, and when I informed them I was there, they simply stopped responding. So what happened? Did they lie when they said I'd be able to verify my account without any problems upon my return?
Furthermore, in that same message, you confirm that you do not allow access to accounts from Spain, which supports what I mentioned earlier: during my stay in that country, I couldn't meet certain requirements, such as taking a selfie showing my profile, because I couldn't even access their website.
With all that explained... If you want me to take 50 photos or meet more requirements, I'll do it without a problem. But the only thing I care about is getting my money back, because I've needed it so much these past four months.
En primer lugar, quiero dejar en claro que no estoy solicitando que se reabra mi cuenta, ya que sinceramente me ha desanimado mucho haber confiado en una casa de apuestas que no demuestra comprensión hacia sus usuarios. Mi único interés es recuperar el dinero que tengo dentro de la cuenta, ya que se trata de un monto considerable para mí, y lo digo con todo respeto.
Con respecto al primer párrafo de su respuesta:
Ustedes NO mantuvieron una comunicación continua. Respondían esporádicamente o incluso dejaban de responder por completo durante varios días. Esto hizo que el proceso fuera muy frustrante.
Respecto al segundo punto que mencionan:
Sí les informé por el chat en vivo (el cual, entiendo, ustedes pueden revisar ya que tienen historial de conversaciones). Antes del 20 de diciembre, indiqué que me urgía completar el proceso porque tenía un viaje a Espa?a. Si bien no recuerdo con exactitud mis palabras, creo haber solicitado que esperaran a que llegase de allá para continuar con la verificación. Me respondieron que "el área encargada se haría cargo".
Lo importante aquí es que yo avisé antes, durante y después del problema que estaría en Espa?a. Si bien no tengo capturas del chat en vivo, ustedes deberían tenerlas. Yo sí cuento con capturas en las que aviso que estoy en Espa?a durante y después de lo ocurrido.
Sobre el tercer punto:
?Qué procedimiento siguen cuando un usuario no puede completar su verificación por razones de fuerza mayor? Yo no creo que no tengan empatía con la situación de sus usuarios verdad?
En mi caso, luché para que aceptaran mi DNI. No recuerdo si llegué a enviar también mi extracto bancario, pero sí hice todo lo posible por completar la verificación antes de salir del país. (incluso lo que me pidieron después era 100% necesario que entre a mi cuenta por que me pidieron que me tome una foto-selfi y que de fondo se vea el perfil de mi cuenta de Nomini - lo cual no puedo porque en Espa?a esta restringido su pagina)
Mi pregunta es: ?Cómo actúa una casa de apuestas seria y confiable en estos casos? ?Deja al usuario sin opciones, como me está ocurriendo a mí?
*Ya estando de viaje, me solicitaron un requisito adicional, a pesar de que ya había enviado mi DNI y mi extracto bancario. Me pidieron una foto-selfi sosteniendo mi documento y mostrando mi perfil de Nomini en una pantalla.
Sin embargo, como ya les había explicado, eso se me hacía muy difícil porque estando en Espa?a no podía acceder a su página web, lo que me impedía cumplir con ese requerimiento.
Agradezco de antemano su atención y espero una solución justa y coherente con los valores de una plataforma responsable.
*Les pido que por favor lean con detenimiento la captura adjunta. Ese mensaje me lo enviaron el 8 de abril, y en él me indican que una vez que regresara a mi país, podría continuar con la verificación para seguir utilizando sus servicios.
Sin embargo, quiero dejar algo muy claro: yo ya estaba en Perú desde marzo, y cuando les informé que ya me encontraba en el país , simplemente dejaron de responder. Entonces, ?Qué pasó? ?Mintieron cuando dijeron que al volver podría verificar mi cuenta sin problemas?
Además, en ese mismo mensaje ustedes confirman que no permiten el acceso a las cuentas desde Espa?a, lo cual respalda lo que les mencioné anteriormente: durante mi estancia en ese país no podía cumplir con ciertos requisitos, como la selfie mostrando mi perfil, porque ni siquiera podía entrar a su página web.
Con todo lo explicado … Si desean que me tome 50 fotos o cumpla con más requisitos, lo haré sin problema. Pero lo único que me importa es recuperar mi dinero, porque me ha hecho muchísima falta durante estos últimos cuatro meses.
Da pojasnimo, klju?ni problem je zaista bio korisnikov propust da zavr?i KYC verifikaciju u propisanom roku od 30 dana, u skladu sa na?im uslovima i regulatornim obavezama. U nastavku je detaljan vremenski okvir procesa:
14.11.2024 – Pokrenuli smo KYC proceduru tako ?to smo zahtevali od korisnika da dostavi va?e?i li?ni dokument izdat od strane vlade i selfi.
08.12.2024 – Zatra?eni su dodatni dokumenti, uklju?uju?i izvod iz banke iz novembra koji prikazuje relevantne depozite i selfi sa li?nom kartom pored rukopisne bele?ke (kao deo provera za borbu protiv onlajn prevara).
Uprkos ovim zahtevima, korisnik nije dostavio potrebnu dokumentaciju u roku od 30 dana od po?etnog zahteva.
08.01.2025 – Korisniku je poslat zvani?ni podsetnik da se podr?i dostavljanje preostalih dokumenata.
23.01.2025 – Po?to do tada nije dobijen odgovor, ra?un je zatvoren zbog nepo?tovanja KYC zahteva.
Tokom celog ovog perioda, na? tim za podr?ku je bio dostupan da pomogne, a automatski podsetnici su bili na mestu kako bi obavestili korisnika o predstoje?im zahtevima. Na osnovu na?e evidencije, ka?njenja u ovom slu?aju nisu bila posledica vremena obrade sa na?e strane, ve? zbog toga ?to korisnik nije podneo potrebna dokumenta u datom roku.
?eleli bismo da Vam skrenemo pa?nju na slede?u ta?ku Op?tih uslova kori??enja, koje ste prihvatili prilikom kreiranja naloga na na?oj veb stranici:
5.3 Morate da dostavite ova dokumenta i informacije u roku od 30 (trideset) dana od podno?enja zahteva. Zadr?avamo pravo da zadr?imo pla?anje i/ili suspendujemo va? nalog dok ne dostavite dokumenta i informacije koje smo tra?ili, i da trajno zatvorimo va? nalog ako to ne u?inite na vreme. Obi?no ?emo proveriti va?e dokumente i informacije u roku od 10 (deset) dana nakon ?to na na? zahtev bude u potpunosti odgovoreno, me?utim, u zavisnosti od okolnosti i slo?enosti datog slu?aja, mo?e biti potrebno dodatno vreme i/ili provere da bi se verifikacija zavr?ila.
Ukoliko je korisnik planirao putovanje u inostranstvo, preporu?ili bismo da ?to pre dostavi tra?ena dokumenta ili da unapred obavesti na? tim za podr?ku, kako bismo mogli da damo prioritet njihovom slu?aju u skladu sa tim.
Nadamo se da ?e ovo razjasniti stvar.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Nomini tim
Dear all,
We appreciate your patience.
To clarify, the core issue was indeed the user's failure to complete the KYC verification within the required 30-day timeframe, as per our terms and regulatory obligations. Below is a detailed timeline of the process:
14.11.2024 – We initiated the KYC procedure by requesting the user to provide a valid government-issued ID and a selfie.
08.12.2024 – Additional documents were requested, including a bank statement from November showing the relevant deposits and a selfie holding the ID next to a handwritten note (as part of Anti-Online Scam checks).
Despite these requests, the user did not submit the required documents within the 30-day window from the initial request.
08.01.2025 – A formal reminder was sent to the user to urge submission of the pending documents.
23.01.2025 – As no response was received by then, the account was closed due to non-compliance with the KYC requirements.
Throughout this period, our support team was available to assist, and automated reminders were in place to notify the user of pending requirements. Based on our records, the delays in this case were not due to processing time on our side but rather due to the user not submitting the required documents within the given timeframe.
We would like to draw your attention to the following point of the General Terms and Conditions, which you accepted when creating your account on our website:
5.3 You must provide these documents and information within 30 (thirty) days after the request is made. We reserve the right to withhold payment and/or suspend your account until you provide the documents and information we requested, and to permanently close your account if you fail to do so in time. We will usually verify your documents and information within 10 (ten) days after our request is answered in full, however, depending on the circumstances and complexity of a given case, additional time and/or checks may be required to complete verification.
If the user was planning to travel abroad, we would have recommended submitting the requested documents as soon as possible or notifying our support team in advance, so we could prioritize their case accordingly.
We hope this clarifies the matter.
Best regards,
Nomini Team
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Po?etak procesa - 14.11.2024: (Potvr?ujem datum)
Tog dana, proces je po?eo zahtevom za fotografiju mog li?nog dokumenta i selfija. Od tada sam poku?ao da otpremim potrebna dokumenta na njihovu platformu, ali iz nekog nepoznatog razloga nisam uspeo (kamera je stalno bila crna). Poku?ao sam sa razli?itih ure?aja i dobio istu gre?ku, pa zaklju?ujem da je problem sa njihovim veb-sajtom. Da bih izbegao ka?njenja, odlu?io sam da po?aljem dokumenta imejlom. Prila?em snimak ekrana kao dokaz.
Ka?njenje u zahtevu za drugi dokument - 08/12/2024: (Potvr?ujem datum)
Prema re?ima same kladionice (Nomini), pro?lo je 25 dana od trenutka kada sam poslao svoju li?nu kartu do trenutka kada mi je zatra?en novi dokument . Ako je ukupno vreme potrebno za zavr?etak procesa 30 dana, za?to su toliko dugo ?ekali da zatra?e slede?i zahtev? - Kao ?to vidite na prethodnom snimku ekrana, poslao sam svoja dokumenta dan nakon ?to su tra?ena. ?to se ti?e izvoda iz banke i drugog dokumenta, se?am se da sam ih poslao direktno sa Nomini veb stranice, iako su nekoliko puta odbijeni pre nego ?to su kona?no prihva?eni. Ponavljam: izme?u 14. novembra 2024. i 8. decembra 2024. godine , pro?lo je 25 dana pre nego ?to sam primio novi zahtev od vas.
Nova prijava – 24.12.2024. (selfi sa pozadinom kladionice): (Potvr?ujem datum)
I opet je moralo da pro?e 16 dana od poslednjeg zahteva (8. decembra) do trenutka kada mi je zatra?en drugi dokument. Za to vreme (od 16. decembra) sam putovao, ?to sam ve? prijavio.
Podsetnik – 01.08.2025: (Potvr?ujem datum)
Dobio sam podsetnik 01/08 i odgovorio 01/10 (dva dana nakon ?to sam primio njihov ?podsetnik") , obave?tavaju?i ih da jo? uvek putujem i tra?e?i da verifikuju moj nalog po povratku.
Tog dana sam obave?ten o zatvaranju mog naloga. Od tada poku?avam da objasnim da ka?njenje nije moja krivica, ve? da je njihov tim u nekoliko navrata zahteve primao veoma kasno. Pored toga, bilo je tehni?kih problema na njihovoj platformi koji su me spre?ili da otpremim dokumenta u ?eljenom roku.
?elim da bude jasno da, kao ?to pokazuju datumi koje ste naveli , ka?njenje u ovom procesu nije bilo zbog mog nedostatka saradnje, ve? zbog zna?ajnih ka?njenja u va?im zahtevima (25 dana za jedan, 16 dana za drugi). ?to se mene ti?e, uvek sam odgovarao u razumnom roku (maksimalno 3 dana) na prijem svakog zahteva.
Molim vas da pregledate snimke ekrana koje sam podelio, koji jasno pokazuju da sam od po?etka delovao odgovorno i marljivo.
Start of the process - 11/14/2024: (I confirm the date)
That day, the process began by requesting a photo of my ID and a selfie. Since then, I've tried uploading the required documents to their platform, but for some unknown reason, I wasn't able to (the camera kept going black). I tried from different devices and received the same error, so I deduce it was a problem with their website. To avoid delays, I decided to send the documents by email. I'm attaching a screenshot as proof.
Delay in requesting the second document - 08/12/2024: (I confirm the date)
According to the bookmaker itself (Nomini), it took 25 days from the time I sent my ID until I was asked for a new document . If the total time to complete the process is 30 days, why did they wait so long to request the next requirement? - As you can see in the previous screenshot, I sent my documents the day after it was requested. Regarding the bank statement and the other document, I remember having sent it directly from the Nomini website, although it was rejected several times before being finally accepted. I reiterate: between November 14, 2024 and December 8, 2024 , it took 25 days before receiving a new request from you.
New application – 12/24/2024 (selfie with bookmaker background): (I confirm the date)
And again, 16 days had to pass from the last request (December 8) until I was asked for another document. During that time (from December 16), I was traveling, which I had already reported.
Reminder – 01/08/2025: (I confirm the date)
I received a reminder on 01/08 and responded on 01/10 (two days after receiving their "reminder") , informing them that I was still traveling and requesting to verify my account upon my return.
Account Closure – 01/23/2025: (I confirm the date)
That day, I was informed of my account closure. Since then, I've tried to explain that the delay wasn't my fault, but that on several occasions, requests were received very late by their team. Additionally, there were technical issues on their platform that prevented me from uploading the documents in the desired timeframe.
I want to make it clear that, as the dates you indicated demonstrate , the delay in this process was not due to my lack of cooperation, but rather to considerable delays in your requests (25 days for one, 16 days for the other). For my part, I always responded within a reasonable time (maximum 3 days) to receiving each request.
Please review the screenshots I've shared, which clearly show that I acted responsibly and diligently from the start.
Inicio del proceso - 14/11/2024: (confirmo la fecha)
Ese día se inició el proceso pidiendo foto de mi DNI y una foto-selfi, desde entonces intenté subir los documentos requeridos a su plataforma, pero por alguna razón desconocida no me fue posible (la cámara se ponía en negro). Probé desde diferentes dispositivos y obtuve el mismo error, por lo que deduzco que se trataba de un problema en su página. Para evitar demoras, decidí enviar los documentos por correo electrónico. Adjunto nuevamente una captura como evidencia.
Demora en la solicitud del segundo documento - 08/12/2024: (confirmo la fecha)
Según lo que indica la misma casa de apuestas (Nomini), transcurrieron 25 días desde el envío de mi DNI hasta que se me solicitó un nuevo documento. Si el plazo total para completar el proceso es de 30 días, ?por qué se esperó tanto para pedir el siguiente requisito? - como podrá ver en la captura anterior , yo envié mis documentos un día después de que fue solicitado, Respecto al extracto bancario y el otro documento, recuerdo haberlo enviado directamente desde la página de Nomini, aunque fue rechazado varias veces antes de ser finalmente aceptado. Reitero: entre el 14/11/2024 y el 08/12/2024 pasaron 25 días antes de recibir una nueva solicitud de su parte.
Nueva solicitud – 24/12/2024 (selfi con fondo de la casa de apuestas): (confirmo la fecha)
Y otra ves tuvieron que pasar 16 días desde la última solicitud (08/12) hasta que se me pidió otro documento. Justo en ese periodo (desde el 16/12) me encontraba de viaje, lo cual ya había comunicado.
Recordatorio – 08/01/2025: (confirmo la fecha)
Recibí un recordatorio el 08/01 y respondí el 10/01 (dos días después de recibir su "recordatorio") , informando que aún estaba de viaje y solicitando verificar mi cuenta al regresar.
Cierre de cuenta – 23/01/2025: (confirmo la fecha)
Ese día se me informó del cierre de mi cuenta. Desde entonces he tratado de explicar que la demora no fue responsabilidad mía, sino que en varias ocasiones las solicitudes llegaron con mucha tardanza por parte de su equipo. Además, hubo problemas técnicos en su plataforma que me impidieron cargar los documentos en el tiempo deseado.
Quiero dejar en claro que, tal como demuestran las fechas indicadas por ustedes mismos, el retraso en este proceso no fue por mi falta de colaboración, sino por demoras considerables en sus solicitudes (25 días para una, 16 días para otra). Por mi parte, siempre respondí dentro de un plazo razonable (máximo 3 días) al recibir cada requerimiento.
Les pido por favor que revisen las capturas que he compartido, donde queda claro que actué con responsabilidad y diligencia desde el inicio.
Hvala vam na odgovorima i dodatnim informacijama. Izvinjavam se zbog ka?njenja.
Da budem iskren, i kao ?to su moja prethodna pitanja mogla da nazna?e, poku?ao sam da prona?em ne?to drugo ?to bi moglo da opravda odluku kazina da zatvori korisni?ki nalog i/ili konfiskuje sporna sredstva. Me?utim, s obzirom na poslednje objave i informacije koje su oba u?esnika podelila u ovoj temi, ?ini se da je u osnovi jedini razlog za odluku kazina bio ka?njenje tokom KYC procesa, koje je tako?e mogao da izazove sam kazino.
Na?alost, iako prihvatamo da kazina imaju takva pravila u svojim Uslovima i odredbama, ne mo?emo se slo?iti sa konfiskacijom stanja na osnovu perioda od 30 dana koji je predstavnik kazina naveo, a tako?e, ne vidimo problem u nastavku KYC-a nakon ?to se igra? vrati i zainteresovan je za verifikaciju sebe. Pored toga, korisnica je obavestila kazino o situaciji, jer je imala problema sa pristupom veb stranici kazina, a slu?benik za korisnike kazina ju je jasno obavestio da se verifikacija mo?e nastaviti nakon ?to se podnosilac ?albe vrati u svoju zemlju prebivali?ta. Nisam mogao da prona?em nikakve informacije u komunikaciji izme?u igra?a i kazina gde bi ona odbila da pru?i bilo ?ta ili da sara?uje sa kazinom tokom procesa, posebno tokom vremena kada je bila u Peruu.
Dragi time kazina Nimini ,
Na osnovu svega gore navedenog i informacija/detalja koje smo prikupili, pod uslovom da nisu prona?ena druga kr?enja, da li bi kazino bio u mogu?nosti i spreman da pokrene nastavak KYC procesa sa podnosiocem ?albe od ta?ke u kojoj je ?suspendovan"?
Ako postoji ne?to ?to sam prevideo ili ?to jo? niste pomenuli, ?to bi moglo biti bitno ili va?no u procesu re?avanja ?albe, ili ?ak mo?e promeniti na? stav, slobodno me ispravite ili nam javite vi?e detalja o tome. Alternativno, ako se odnosi na ne?to ?osetljivo", slobodno to razjasnite putem e-po?te ( [email protected] ).
Hvala vam. Radujem se va?em odgovoru.
Greetings all,
Thank you for your replies and additional information. I am sorry for the delay.
To be honest, and as my previous questions could have indicated, I tried to find out something else that could justify the casino's decision to close the user's account and/or confiscate the disputed funds. However, considering the last posts and information shared in this thread by both involved, it appears that basically, the only reason for the casino's decision was based on a delay during the KYC process, which could have also been caused by the casino itself.
Unfortunately, although we accept casinos having such rules in their Terms and Conditions, we cannot agree with the balance confiscation based on the 30-day period the casino representative referred to, and also, we see no problem in continuing with KYC after a player gets back and is interested in verifying themselves. In addition, the user informed the casino about the situation, as she was experiencing issues with accessing the casino website, and the casino CS informed her clearly that the verification could continue after the complainant got back to her country of residence. I could not find any information in the communication between the player and the casino where she would have refused to provide anything or to cooperate with the casino during the process, especially during the time she was in Peru.
Dear Nimini Casino Team,
Based on all the above-stated and the information/details we gathered, provided that there were no other violations found, would the casino please be able and willing to initiate a continuation of the KYC process with the complainant from the point where it was "suspended"?
If there is anything I overlooked or you have not mentioned yet, it could be essential or important in the complaint resolution process, or even could change our position, feel free to correct me or let us know with more details about it. Alternatively, if it is related to something "sensitive", do not hesitate to clarify it via email ([email protected]).
Thank you. Looking forward to hearing from you.
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Zdravo svima,
Hvala vam na podr?ci i ?to pratite slu?aj.
Samo ?elim da razjasnim (kao ?to sam ve? pokazao kroz snimke ekrana) da ni u jednom trenutku nisam odbio da verifikujem svoj nalog. Od po?etka sam verovao Nominiju, kako zbog recenzija, tako i zbog usluga koje je nudio, i uplatio sam depozit u dobroj veri. Na?alost, na?in na koji se ovo pitanje re?ava ne odra?ava isto poverenje ili empatiju prema korisnicima.
Ne tra?im ni?ta neobi?no, samo da mi se dozvoli da zavr?im proces verifikacije ili, ako to ne bude mogu?e, da mi se vrati zadr?ani iznos, jer je to za mene zna?ajan iznos.
Bio bih vam veoma zahvalan ako bi kazino mogao da preispita svoj stav i ponudi pravedno re?enje.
Hello everyone,
Thank you for your support and for following up on the case.
I just want to make it clear (as I've already demonstrated through screenshots) that at no point did I refuse to verify my account. From the beginning, I trusted Nomini, both because of the reviews and the services it offered, and I made my deposit in good faith. Unfortunately, the way this issue is being handled doesn't reflect that same trust or empathy for users.
I'm not asking for anything out of the ordinary, just to be allowed to complete the verification process or, failing that, to be refunded the withheld balance, as this is a significant amount for me.
I would greatly appreciate it if the casino could reconsider its position and offer a fair solution.
Hola a todos,
Gracias por su apoyo y por el seguimiento al caso.
Solo quiero dejar en claro (como ya lo demostré a través de capturas) que en ningún momento me negué a verificar mi cuenta. Desde el principio confié en Nomini, tanto por las rese?as como por los servicios que ofrecía, e hice mi depósito con total buena fe. Lamentablemente, la forma en que se está manejando este inconveniente no refleja esa misma confianza ni empatía hacia los usuarios.
No estoy pidiendo nada fuera de lugar, solo que me permitan completar el proceso de verificación o, en su defecto, que me devuelvan el saldo que quedó retenido, ya que se trata de una suma importante para mí.
Agradezco mucho si el casino puede reconsiderar su postura y ofrecer una solución justa.
Hvala vam na va?em daljem kontaktu i na prilici da jo? jednom razjasnimo na? stav.
Nakon temeljnog pregleda, ?elimo da potvrdimo da je od igra?a zatra?eno da dostavi potrebna KYC dokumenta 14.11.2024. godine, uz naknadnu komunikaciju i zahteve za dodatnu dokumentaciju podnete 08.12.2024. godine. Uprkos na?em podsetniku poslatom 08.01.2025. godine, igra? nije zavr?io proces verifikacije u propisanom roku od 30 dana, kako je jasno navedeno u na?im Uslovima i odredbama (Odeljak 5.3).
Na?alost, produ?eno ka?njenje i nepo?tovanje KYC procesa u predvi?enom roku dovelo je do zatvaranja ra?una 23.01.2025. godine, u skladu sa na?im internim procedurama i regulatornim obavezama.
Iako razumemo situaciju korisnika, moramo se pridr?avati i regulatornih propisa koji nala?u blagovremenu KYC verifikaciju. Stoga, sa ?aljenjem vas obave?tavamo da u ovoj fazi ne?emo mo?i ponovo da otvorimo nalog ili nastavimo KYC proces.
Cenimo va?e razumevanje i saradnju.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Nomini tim
Dear all,
Thank you for your follow-up and for the opportunity to clarify our position once again.
After a thorough review, we would like to confirm that the player was requested to provide the necessary KYC documents on 14.11.2024, with follow-up communication and additional document requests made on 08.12.2024. Despite our reminder sent on 08.01.2025, the player did not complete the verification process within the required 30-day period as clearly outlined in our Terms & Conditions (Section 5.3).
Unfortunately, the prolonged delay and failure to comply with the KYC process within the designated timeframe led to the closure of the account on 23.01.2025, in line with our internal procedures and regulatory obligations.
While we understand the user’s situation, we must also comply with regulatory, which mandate timely KYC verification. Therefore, we regret to inform you that we will not be able to reopen the account or resume the KYC process at this stage.
We appreciate your understanding and cooperation.
Best regards,
Nomini Team
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Ono ?to smatram zaista skandaloznim jeste to ?to u svojoj poslednjoj poruci nagla?avaju da je ?dugotrajno ka?njenje i neuspeh u zavr?etku KYC procesa u predvi?enom roku doveo do zatvaranja ra?una", kao da je odgovornost u potpunosti na meni. Da li zaista misle da je ka?njenje moja krivica?
Poslao sam jasne dokaze (uklju?uju?i snimke ekrana) koji pokazuju da sam svaki put kada ste tra?ili dokumenta, odgovorio u roku od tri dana ili ?ak i br?e. Ono ?to je zaista usporilo proces jeste va?e sopstveno ka?njenje u pregledu dokumenata i tra?enju novih zahteva, sa razmacima od ?ak 25 i 16 dana izme?u svakog odgovora.
Smatram veoma ozbiljnim to ?to me kladionica koja sebe naziva ?pouzdanom" krivi za ka?njenje koje ste vi sami izazvali. Izazivam vas, ako imate mogu?nosti, da predstavite ijedan dokaz koji pokazuje da sam odbio da po?aljem ono ?to je tra?eno. U me?uvremenu, ve? sam prilo?io nekoliko dokaza koji dokazuju suprotno: vi ste ti koji su stalno odugovla?ili.
Ono ?to me najvi?e mu?i u vezi sa svem ovim nije samo neopravdano zatvaranje naloga ili nedostatak verifikacije, ve? i nedostatak empatije ili po?tovanja koje se pokazuje kada se suo?imo sa osnovanom ?albom sa dokazima.
Uop?te me ne zanima da li ?e odlu?iti da mi zatvore nalog ili da ga ne verifikuju, ali ono ?to je meni va?no i ?to zahtevam jeste re?enje u vezi sa novcem koji imam na ra?unu. Njihov odgovor, daleko od profesionalnog, ostavlja mnogo toga da se po?eli i isti?e vrstu usluge koju nude.
Totalno razo?aranje ?to sam ti verovao.
?ekam re?enje u vezi sa novcem unutra
What I find truly outrageous is that in their latest message, they emphasize that "the prolonged delay and failure to complete the KYC process within the designated timeframe led to the account closure," as if the responsibility lay entirely on me. Do they really think the delay was my fault?
I have sent clear evidence (including screenshots) showing that every time you requested documents, I responded within three days or even sooner. What really slowed down the process was your own delay in reviewing the documents and requesting new requests, with gaps of up to 25 and 16 days between each response.
I find it very serious that a betting house that calls itself "reliable" blames me for a delay that you yourselves caused. I challenge you, if you have the means, to present a single piece of evidence showing that I refused to send what was requested. Meanwhile, I've already attached several pieces of evidence that prove the opposite: you were the ones who were constantly delaying.
What bothers me most about all this is not only the unjustified account closure or lack of verification, but also the lack of empathy or respect shown when faced with a well-founded complaint with evidence.
I couldn't care less if they decide to close my account or not verify it, but what matters to me and what I demand is a solution regarding the money I have in the account. Their response, far from professional, leaves much to be desired and underscores the type of service they are offering.
A total disappointment to have trusted you.
I will be waiting for a solution regarding the money inside
Lo que sinceramente me resulta indignante es que en su último mensaje recalquen que "la demora prolongada y el incumplimiento del proceso KYC dentro del plazo designado llevaron al cierre de la cuenta", como si la responsabilidad fuera completamente mía. ?De verdad creen que la demora fue por mi culpa?
He enviado pruebas claras (capturas de pantalla incluidas) donde se demuestra que cada vez que ustedes me solicitaron documentos, yo respondí mas tardar en 3 días o incluso antes. Lo que verdaderamente ralentizó el proceso fue su propia demora en revisar los documentos y en pedirme nuevas cosas, con lapsos de hasta 25 y 16 días entre cada respuesta por parte de ustedes.
Me parece muy grave que una casa de apuestas que se autodenomina "confiable" me culpe a mí por una lentitud que ustedes mismos generaron. Les reto, si tienen cómo hacerlo, a que presenten una sola prueba donde yo me haya negado a enviar lo que se solicitó. Mientras tanto, yo ya adjunté varias pruebas que muestran lo contrario: ustedes fueron los que tardaron constantemente.
Lo que más me molesta de todo esto no es solo el cierre injustificado de la cuenta o la falta de verificación, sino que ni siquiera muestran empatía ni respeto ante un reclamo bien fundamentado y con evidencias.
Me da exactamente igual si deciden cerrar mi cuenta o no verificarla, pero lo que me importa y exijo es una solución respecto al dinero que tengo en la cuenta. Su respuesta, lejos de ser profesional, deja mucho que desear y deja en claro el tipo de servicio que están ofreciendo.
Una total decepción haber confiado en ustedes.
Estaré a la espera de una solución con respecto al dinero dentro
Hvala vam obojici na odgovorima i dodatnim informacijama.
Po?tovani time kazina Nomini ,
Da li dobro razumem da je odluka kazina zasnovana isklju?ivo na ka?njenjima tokom KYC procesa i kr?enju roka od 30 dana, ?ak i ako su poznati svi detalji oko toga, da nije bilo drugih prekr?aja, i da odluka ostaje nepromenjena, tako da je mo?emo smatrati kona?nom?
Da li postoje okolnosti pod kojima bi kazino bio u mogu?nosti i spreman da dozvoli korisniku da zavr?i KYC i/ili povu?e sporna sredstva?
Ako je odluka kazina kona?na, bez dodatnih detalja ili potkrepljuju?ih dokaza, bojim se da ?u biti primoran da zatvorim slu?aj kao nere?en, ?to ?e negativno uticati na indeks bezbednosti kazina na www.kpvfaw.com.
Hvala vam.
Thank you both for your replies and the additional information.
Dear Nomini Casino Team,
Do I understand correctly that the casino's decision is based solely on the delays during the KYC process and breaching the 30-day period, even knowing about all the details around it, that there were no other violations, and that the decision remains unchanged, so we can consider it final?
Are there any circumstances under which the casino would be able and willing to let the user complete the KYC and/or withdraw the disputed funds?
If the casino's decision is final, without further details or supporting evidence, I am afraid I will be forced to close the case as unresolved, which will negatively impact the casino's safety index on www.kpvfaw.com.
Thank you.
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