Dragi Eravivo,
Hvala na dodatnim detaljima. Me?utim, u me?uvremenu se o tome interno razgovaralo sa timom, a rezultati na?eg internog sastanka vas ne?e obradovati.
Nakon prikupljanja svih potrebnih informacija i detalja, ovu ?albu zatvaramo kao neopravdanu. Iako procedure kazina u vezi sa sistemskim pode?avanjima/sprovo?enjem pravila/transparentnosti uop?te nisu bile ta?ne (barem u ovom slu?aju, dok su se odnosile na potpuno irelevantna pravila), na va?u nesre?u, kazino je deo grupe kazina, i nije neobi?no da kazina dele takve podatke i detalje ili imaju pristup odre?enim detaljima u okviru istog operatera/vlasnika. Na osnovu navedenih detalja, glavni faktor koji je doveo do na?e kona?ne odluke (odbijanja) je to ?to ste ve? igrali u nekoliko onlajn kazina u okviru iste grupe, me?utim, u jednom od njih ste ve? prekr?ili pravila registracijom vi?e od 1 naloga , zloupotrebljavaju?i bonus ponudu kazina. Stoga je razumljivo ?to su odlu?ili da vas ograni?e na bonuse u okviru cele grupe, dok to obja?njava ? nesrazmernu koli?inu bonusa u odnosu na broj upla?enih depozita ". Zbog vi?estrukih naloga/zloupotreba bonusa, u su?tini ste ve? ranije dobili vi?e bonusa nego ?to ste imali pravo, ?to je ozbiljno prekr?ilo pravila kazina.
Dakle, po?to kazino ima pravo da odbije bilo kom igra?u da obezbedi bonuse (dodatni besplatni novac koji kazina daju povrh depozita) po sopstvenom naho?enju, au VOLNA kazinu su saznali va? identitet i okolnosti u vezi sa va?im prethodnim aktivnostima u okviru grupi samo nakon dodatne KIC/verifikacije i temeljnog pregleda va?eg naloga i aktivnosti, prihvatamo odluku kazina da konfiskuje va? dobitak. Ne ispunjavate uslove za dobitke dobijene na ovaj na?in. Po?to je kazino vratio va? depozit i dozvolio vam da ga povu?ete, smatramo da je stvar zatvorena.
Da su okolnosti bile druga?ije i da niste prekr?ili pravila u nekom drugom VOLNInom sestrinskom kazinu u pro?losti, situacija bi bila zna?ajno druga?ija, a mi bismo definitivno stali na va?u stranu. Ali to ovde nije mogu?e.
?to se ti?e drugih VOLNInih sestrinskih kazina, toplo preporu?ujem da prona?ete liste svih onlajn kazina koji pripadaju kompanijama GALAKTIKA NV i CARRER NV. Takve informacije nije te?ko prona?i javno na internetu. Imajte na umu da ?e se nakon prethodnog kr?enja u jednom od njihovih kazina, isto desiti u bilo kom drugom sestrinskom kazinu. Ako odlu?ite da igrate sa bonusom kao u VOLNA, bi?e vam dozvoljeno da povu?ete samo svoj depozit bez obzira na to koliko ste depozita napravili i koliko bonusa ste iskoristili, vi?e nemate pravo da koristite bonuse u okviru ove kazino grupe...
Ako niste zadovoljni re?enjem za pritu?bu, preporu?ujem vam da konsultujete organ za kockanje ?iji je kazino regulisan.
Hvala vam puno, VOLNA Casino tim , na pru?anju informacija i saradnji. Me?utim, kao ?to je ve? pomenuto, jedini razlog na?e odluke je taj ?to je igra? u pro?losti prekr?io pravila u jednom od VOLNA-inih sestrinskih kazina. U suprotnom, da korisnik nije ni?ta prekr?io u nekom drugom od sestrinskih kazina, mi bismo stali na stranu podnosioca ?albe. Stoga, iako nismo sigurni u standardni proces u slu?aju da va?a kazina odlu?e da ograni?e igra?a od bonusa (mo?da je to bilo tako samo zato ?to je prekr?io pravila u sestrinskom kazinu), toplo vam preporu?ujemo da ga primenite na strani kazina - da ne dozvolite takvim igra?ima da tra?e bonuse pre nego ?to se profili kazino naloga i li?nih podataka popune ili da se takvi igra?i obaveste o nametnutim ograni?enjima, posebno o vlasniku i listi kazina u kojima ograni?enja treba da se primenjuju.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Branislav, Kazino.Guru
Dear Eravivo,
Thank you for additional details. However, in the meantime, the matter was discussed internally with the team, and the results of our internal meeting will not make you happy.
After gathering all the necessary information and details, we are closing this complaint as unjustified. Although the casino's procedures regarding system settings/rules enforcement/transparency were not correct at all (at least in this case, while they referred to completely irrelevant rule(s)), unfortunately for you, the casino is part of a group of casinos, and it is not unusual that casinos share such data and details or have access to specific details within the same operator/owner. Based on the provided details, the main factor that led to our final decision (rejection) was that you already played in several online casinos within the same group, however, in one of them, you already breached the rules by registering more than 1 account, abusing the casino's bonus offer. Therefore, it is understandable that they decided to restrict you from bonuses within the entire group, while it explains "a disproportionate amount of bonuses relative to the number of deposits made". By multiple accounts/bonus abuse, you basically already previously received more bonuses than you were eligible for, which seriously breached casinos' rules.
So, since the casino has the right to refuse to provide any player with bonuses (extra free money given by casinos on top of deposits) in its sole discretion, and at VOLNA Casino, they found out your identity and circumstances around your previous activity within the group only upon additional KYC/verification and thorough review of your account and activity, we accept the casino's decision to confiscate your winnings. You are not eligible for winnings obtained this way. Since the casino returned your deposit and allowed you to withdraw it, we consider the matter closed.
If the circumstances were different and you had not breached rules in another of VOLNA's sister casinos in the past, the situation would have been significantly different, and we would have definitely sided with you. But it is not possible here.
As for other VOLNA's sister casinos, I strongly recommend you find lists of all online casinos belonging to GALAKTIKA N.V. and CARRER N.V. companies. It is not difficult to find such information publicly on the internet. Be aware that after the previous breach in one of their casinos, the same will happen in any other sister casino. If you decide to play with a bonus like in VOLNA, you will be allowed to withdraw only your deposit regardless of how many deposits you made and how many bonuses you used, you are not eligible to use bonuses within this casino group anymore...
If you are not satisfied with the complaint solution, I recommend you consult the gambling authority that the casino is regulated by.
Thank you very much, VOLNA Casino Team, for providing information and for your cooperation. However, as was mentioned above, the only reason behind our decision is that the player breached rules in one of VOLNA's sister casinos in the past. Otherwise, if the user had not breached anything in another of the sister casinos, we would have sided with the complainant. Therefore, although we are not sure about the standard process in case your casinos decide to restrict a player from bonuses (maybe it was like that only because he breached rules in the sister casino), we strongly recommend you enforce it on the casinos' side - to not let such players claim bonuses before casino account profiles and personal details completion or to inform such players about the restrictions imposed, especially about owner and list of casinos where restrictions should be applied.
Best regards,
Branislav, www.kpvfaw.com
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