Jag registrerade mig p? Lilibet Casino och gjorde anspr?k p? v?lkomstbonusen som ny spelare, enligt alla angivna villkor. Efter att ha spelat och vunnit €11 534, konfiskerade kasinot mina vinster, med h?nvisning till ett brott mot T&C 3.1.8, som begr?nsar insatserna till 5 EUR per snurr f?r omladdningsbonusar.
Deras egna villkor skiljer dock tydligt v?lkomstbonusen fr?n en omladdningsbonus. V?lkomstbonusen ?r specifikt f?r nya spelare, medan reloadbonusar g?ller f?r befintliga spelare som g?r efterf?ljande ins?ttningar. Trots detta h?vdar casinot nu att v?lkomstbonusen anses vara en omladdningsbonus, vilket strider mot deras publicerade villkor.
Jag anser att detta ?r en or?ttvis tolkning och beg?r att casinot ?terst?ller mina vinster, eftersom jag h?ll mig till reglerna f?r v?lkomstbonusen. Kasinot har erbjudit sig att ?terbetala min ins?ttning eller ge en annan bonus men har inte ?tg?rdat de motstridiga villkoren.
Jag s?ker hj?lp med att l?sa detta problem och s?kerst?lla r?ttvis behandling baserat p? de angivna villkoren.
Livechatt
Konfiskerar du vinst?
Hej
21:27
L
Tyv?rr ?r det s?, Phothirat.
Livechatt
??
hur kommer det sig
L
Vi har skickat ett e-postmeddelande ang?ende detta har du lyckats kolla upp det?
Livechatt
Ja
det st?mmer inte
L
Hur menar du?
Livechatt
Det maximala insatsbeloppet per snurr f?r reloadbonusar ?r 5 EUR
Det maximala insatsbeloppet per snurr f?r RELOAD-bonusar ?r 5 EUR
21:28
LADDA OM
L
Ja.
Livechatt
Var detta en omladdning?
Och du har spelat med 20 EUR per snurr.
L
Alla bonusar som ?r baserade p? dina ins?ttningar.
Livechatt
Urs?kta var st?r det s??
21:29
L
Dvs vilken bonus som helst som ger dig ett procentuellt bonusbelopp.
Livechatt
https://lilibet.com/promotions/api/details?id=2370
L
S? har det alltid varit.
Livechatt
3.1.8. Det maximala insatsbeloppet per snurr f?r omladdningsbonusar ?r 5 EUR eller motsvarande (5 USD, 7 CAD, 7 AUD, 7 NZD, 25 PLN, 500 INR).
V?nligen kontrollera punkt 3.1.8 i v?ra villkor.
21:30
L
Ja, precis.
Livechatt
det st?r RELOAD bonusar
Jag anv?nde en registreringsbonus
L
V?lkomstbonusen ?r en omladdningsbonus.
Livechatt
inte en omladdning
va?
v?lkomstbonus ?r v?lkommen
reload bonus ?r reload
detta ?r inte korrekt.
Om du vill kan vi l?gga till bonusbeloppet en g?ng till p? ditt konto och du kan spela det igen enligt reglerna.
21:31
L
Eller alternativt kan vi ?terbetala din ins?ttning.
Livechatt
Jag vill ha mina vinster
f?r detta ?r inte r?ttvist
det st?r tydligt omladdningsbonusar
L
Tyv?rr kan detta inte g?ras enligt v?ra villkor.
Livechatt
ladda om bonusar
?r olika
det ?r bonusar du kan f? efter din registrering
V?lkomstbonus
21:32
?r n?r du bara registrerar dig
L
V?lkomstbonusen anses vara en omladdningsbonus, varje bonus som matchar ditt ins?ttningsbelopp ?r en omladdningsbonus.
Livechatt
var st?r det s? i termen
L
Detta ?r en standardpraxis.
Livechatt
21:33
Det ?r en kontraktsf?rklaring
21:35
Jag spelade med v?lkomstbonusen, som enligt dina egna villkor inte faller under kategorin omladdningsbonus.
L
Det finns inga specifika villkor f?r "v?lkomstbonus".
Livechatt
Skillnaden mellan dessa tv? typer av bonusar ?r avg?rande och framgick av ditt reklammaterial och de villkor som presenterades f?r mig.
L
Kan du hitta n?gra specifika villkor f?r en "v?lkomstbonus" p? v?ra villkor?
Livechatt
https://lilibet.com/promotions/api/details?id=2370
21:36
L
Det ?r precis det ett marknadsf?ringsnamn f?r n?mnda bonus.
Livechatt
jag anv?nder google translate
V?nligen kontrollera den sista punkten i l?nken du har gett mig.
21:37
L
15. Bonusens allm?nna regler och villkor g?ller f?r denna kampanj, f?r mer information, klicka h?r.
Livechatt
Ja det st?r RELOAD bonusar
detta ?r inte en omladdning
Detta ?r semantik vid denna tidpunkt.
Som vi n?mnde ?r alla ins?ttningsmatchande bonusar en omladdningsbonus.
21:38
Deras egna villkor skiljer dock tydligt v?lkomstbonusen fr?n en omladdningsbonus. V?lkomstbonusen ?r specifikt f?r nya spelare, medan reloadbonusar g?ller f?r befintliga spelare som g?r efterf?ljande ins?ttningar.
Villkoren f?r "v?lkomstbonusen" anger att alla villkor g?ller enligt de allm?nna villkoren.
Och de allm?nna villkoren anger att det maximala insatsbeloppet ?r 5 EUR.
Det finns ingen s?dan skillnad, Phothirat.
21:39
Var st?r det att det ?r 5 euro?
Om du hittar det utanf?r marknadsf?ringsmaterialet, dvs. v?ra villkor, tar vi g?rna emot det.
det st?r f?r reload bonusar
inte f?r v?lkomstbonusar
Jag kommer att l?mna in ett klagom?l till en tredje part
Det st?r det i de allm?nna villkoren, vilken term 15 i v?lkomstbonusen omdirigerar dig till.
Du ?r fri att g?ra det.
21:40
Eftersom det ?r din r?ttighet.
Det h?r ?r vad vi kan erbjuda dig f?r n?rvarande:
1. Vi kan l?gga till bonusen igen och du kan forts?tta spela upp till 5 EUR per snurr.
2. Vi kan ?terbetala din ins?ttning.
I registered at Lilibet Casino and claimed the welcome bonus as a new player, following all stated terms and conditions. After playing and winning €11,534, the casino confiscated my winnings, citing a violation of T&C 3.1.8, which limits bets to 5 EUR per spin for reload bonuses.
However, their own terms clearly differentiate the welcome bonus from a reload bonus. The welcome bonus is specifically for new players, while reload bonuses apply to existing players making subsequent deposits. Despite this, the casino is now claiming that the welcome bonus is considered a reload bonus, which contradicts their published terms.
I believe this is an unfair interpretation and request that the casino reinstates my winnings, as I adhered to the rules for the welcome bonus. The casino has offered to refund my deposit or provide another bonus but has not addressed the conflicting terms.
I am seeking assistance in resolving this issue and ensuring fair treatment based on the stated terms and conditions.
Live Chat
You confiscate winning?
Hey
9:27 PM
L
Unfortunately, it is so, Phothirat.
Live Chat
??
how come
L
We've sent you an e-mail regarding this have you managed to check it out?
Live Chat
Yes
it no correct
L
How do you mean?
Live Chat
The maximum bet amount per spin for reload bonuses is 5 EUR
The maximum bet amount per spin for RELOAD bonuses is 5 EUR
9:28 PM
RELOAD
L
Yes.
Live Chat
Was this a reload?
And you've been playing with 20 EUR per spin.
L
Any bonus that is based on your deposits.
Live Chat
Sorry where does it say that?
9:29 PM
L
I.e. any bonus that gives you a percentage bonus amount.
Live Chat
https://lilibet.com/promotions/api/details?id=2370
L
This has been the case always.
Live Chat
3.1.8. The maximum bet amount per spin for reload bonuses is 5 EUR or equivalent (5 USD, 7 CAD, 7 AUD, 7 NZD, 25 PLN, 500 INR).
Please, check point 3.1.8 of our terms and conditions.
9:30 PM
L
Yes, exactly.
Live Chat
it say RELOAD bonuses
I used a signup bonus
L
The welcome bonus is a reload bonus.
Live Chat
not a reload
huh?
welcome bonus is welcome
reload bonus is reload
this is not correct.
If you'd like we can add the bonus amount once more to your account and you can play it again as per the rules.
9:31 PM
L
Or alternatively, we can refund your deposit.
Live Chat
I want my winnings
cause this is not fair
it clearly say reload bonuses
L
Unfortunately, this cannot be done as per our terms and conditions.
Live Chat
reload bonsues
are diffirent
that is bonuses you can get after your registration
Welcome bonus
9:32 PM
is when you just register
L
The welcome bonus is considered a reload bonus, every bonus that matches your deposit amount is a reload bonus.
Live Chat
where does it say that in the term
L
This is a standard practice.
Live Chat
9:33 PM
It's a contractdiction in terms
9:35 PM
I was playing with the welcome bonus, which, according to your own terms, does not fall under the category of a reload bonus.
L
There are no "welcome bonus" specific terms.
Live Chat
The distinction between these two types of bonuses is crucial and was evident in your promotional materials and the terms and conditions presented to me.
L
Can you find any specific terms for a "welcome" bonus on our terms?
Live Chat
https://lilibet.com/promotions/api/details?id=2370
9:36 PM
L
That is exactly it a marketing naming of said bonus.
Live Chat
i use google translate
Please, check the last point of the link you've provided me.
9:37 PM
L
15. The Bonus General Terms and Conditions apply for this promotion, for more information, please click here.
Live Chat
Yes it say RELOAD bonuses
this is not a reload
This is semantics at this point.
Like we mentioned any Deposit matching bonus is a reload bonus.
9:38 PM
However, their own terms clearly differentiate the welcome bonus from a reload bonus. The welcome bonus is specifically for new players, while reload bonuses apply to existing players making subsequent deposits.
The terms of the "welcome bonus" specify that all terms apply as per the general terms.
And the general terms specify that the maximum bet amount is 5 EUR.
There is no such distinction, Phothirat.
9:39 PM
Where does it say it's 5 euro?
If you find it outside of the marketing material i.e. our terms and conditions, we'd be happy to obligate.
it say for reload bonuses
not for welcome bonuses
i will file a complaint with a third party
It says it in the general terms, which term 15 of the Welcome bonus redirects you to.
You are free to do so.
9:40 PM
As it is your right.
At this time this is what we can offer you:
1. We can re-add the bonus and you can continue playing up to 5 EUR a spin.
2. We can refund your deposit.
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