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The player from Norway had reported an issue with BetPanda Casino, where despite his requests for account closure due to self-acknowledged gambling addiction, the account had remained active. The player had made multiple attempts to reach the casino for immediate closure and review of recent deposits, but to no avail. The player also claimed that the casino's response time and handling of the situation had been unsatisfactory. Despite our team's efforts to mediate the situation and contact the casino, the casino had remained unresponsive. We concluded that the casino had failed to handle the self-exclusion process correctly, leading us to mark the complaint as 'unresolved'. This outcome had negatively affected the casino's safety rating on our website.
Igra? iz Norve?ke je prijavio problem sa BetPanda kazinom, gde je, uprkos njegovim zahtevima za zatvaranje naloga zbog samopriznate zavisnosti od kockanja, nalog ostao aktivan. Igra? je vi?e puta poku?ao da kontaktira kazino radi trenutnog zatvaranja i pregleda nedavnih depozita, ali bezuspe?no. Igra? je tako?e tvrdio da je vreme odziva kazina i postupanje u situaciji bilo nezadovoljavaju?e. Uprkos naporima na?eg tima da posreduje u situaciji i kontaktira kazino, kazino je ostao bez odgovora. Zaklju?ili smo da kazino nije pravilno postupio u procesu samoisklju?ivanja, ?to nas je navelo da ?albu ozna?imo kao ?nere?enu“. Ovaj ishod je negativno uticao na ocenu bezbednosti kazina na na?oj veb stranici.
Pi?em da izrazim svoju duboku zabrinutost i frustraciju u vezi sa re?avanjem mog zahteva da zatvorim svoj BetPanda nalog i moju stalnu sposobnost kockanja uprkos mojoj jasnoj izjavi da sam zavisnik od kockanja.
(Kada sam poslao zvani?nu ?albu, odmah su zatvorili ra?un u roku od minuta, ali nisu odgovorili)
Prvo sam kontaktirao 2. oktobra [email protected] i [email protected] da zatra?im zatvaranje mog naloga. Na moje iznena?enje, obave?ten sam da je zatvaranje ra?una mogu?e samo za one koji su ostali neaktivni ceo kalendarski mesec. Ovo je prili?no zbunjuju?e, s obzirom na to da Odeljak 9 va?ih uslova i odredbi eksplicitno isti?e postojanje politike odgovornog igranja igara.
Kasnije sam kontaktirao njihov tim za podr?ku 8. oktobra (drugi put) da ponovim svoj zahtev za zatvaranje naloga. Na?alost, uprkos mojim molbama i priznanjima da sam zavisnik od kockanja, ni?ta nije preduzeto, a ja sam nastavio da mogu da upla?ujem i kockam na platformi.
Potpuno sam svestan da va?a politika odgovornog igranja ka?e da transakcije i depoziti napravljeni pre ?albe ne ispunjavaju uslove za povra?aj sredstava, sa ?ime se potpuno sla?em. Me?utim, od kada sam podneo zahtev, napravio sam vi?e depozita i kladio se, ?to smatram da nije fer prema meni kao zavisniku od kockanja. Politika odgovornog igranja igara treba da se sprovede odmah kako bi se pojedinci poput mene za?titili od ?tete koju izaziva zavisnost.
Ljubazno tra?im slede?e:
1. Odmah zatvaranje mog BetPanda naloga u skladu sa politikom odgovornog igranja i kako sam prvobitno zahtevao 2. oktobra.
2. Detaljan pregled mojih nedavnih depozita i opklada napravljenih nakon mog zahteva za zatvaranje ra?una, sa ciljem izdavanja povra?aja sredstava za ove transakcije.
3. Po?teno je prema kazinu da isklju?i sve transakcije pre njihovog potvrde 8. oktobra, jer ne mo?emo pretpostaviti da je kazino znao za moju zavisnost pre njihovog e-maila o odbijanju zatvaranja. Zatim se ovo odnosi na sve transakcije izvr?ene izme?u datuma 08.10.2023 (oktobar) do dana.
Pozivam vas da razmislite o ozbiljnosti moje situacije i odgovornosti koju BetPanda ima prema obezbe?ivanju bezbednog i odgovornog okru?enja za igre. Verujem da preduzimanje brzih akcija kao odgovor na moj zahtev nije samo ispravna stvar, ve? i u skladu sa va?om politikom odgovornog igranja igara.
Radujem se va?em brzom odgovoru i re?enju ovog pitanja.
I am writing to express my deep concern and frustration regarding the handling of my request to close my BetPanda account and my ongoing ability to gamble despite my clear declaration of being an addicted gambler.
(When i sent an official complaint, they immediately closed the account within the minute, but has not responded)
On October 2nd, I initially contacted [email protected] and [email protected] to request the closure of my account. To my surprise, I was informed that the closure of accounts is only possible for those that have remained inactive for a whole calendar month. This is rather perplexing, considering that Section 9 of your terms and conditions explicitly outlines the existence of a responsible gaming policy.
I subsequently reached out to their support team on October 8th (Second time) to reiterate my request for account closure. Unfortunately, despite my pleas and admissions of being addicted to gambling, no action has been taken, and I have continued to be able to deposit and gamble on the platform.
I am fully aware that your responsible gaming policy states that transactions and deposits made prior to a complaint are not eligible for refund, which I wholeheartedly agree with. However, since making my request, I have made multiple deposits and placed bets, which I believe is unfair to me as a gambling addict. The responsible gaming policy should be enforced promptly to protect individuals like me from the harm of addiction.
I kindly request the following:
1. Immediate closure of my BetPanda account as per the responsible gaming policy and as I initially requested on October 2nd.
2. A thorough review of my recent deposits and bets made after my request for account closure, with the aim of issuing a refund for these transactions.
3. It is only fair to the casino to exclude any transactions before their acknowledgement on the 8th of october, because we can't presume the casino knew about my addiction before their email of denying closure. Then this regards all transactions made between the 08.10.2023 (October) to days date.
I urge you to consider the seriousness of my situation and the responsibility that BetPanda has towards ensuring a safe and responsible gaming environment. I believe that taking swift action in response to my request is not only the right thing to do but also in line with your stated responsible gaming policy.
I look forward to your prompt response and resolution of this matter.
Hvala vam puno ?to ste podneli ?albu. ?ao mi je ?to ?ujem za va?e negativno iskustvo sa Betpanda kazinom.
Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih bolje razumeo situaciju.
Mo?ete li da nam ka?ete da li ste uplatili depozit u kazinu izme?u 2. i 8. oktobra?
Da li sam dobro razumeo da ste ve? kontaktirali kazino u vezi sa va?im zahtevom za povra?aj novca? Da li ste dobili bilo kakav odgovor od kazina u vezi sa va?im zahtevima, osim izjave o neaktivnim ra?unima?
Po?aljite mi bilo koju komunikaciju koju ste dobili od kazina u vezi sa ovim problemom, molim. Moj imejl je [email protected]
Nadam se da ?emo mo?i da vam pomognemo da re?ite ovaj problem ?to je pre mogu?e. Hvala vam unapred na odgovoru.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Tomas
Dear kingdms,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with Betpanda Casino.
Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can better understand the situation.
Could you please advise if you made any deposits in the casino between October 2nd and October 8th?
Do I understand correctly you already contacted the casino regarding your request for a refund? Have you received any response from the casino regarding your requests at all other than the statement regarding inactive accounts?
Send me any communication you received from the casino regarding the issue, please. My email is [email protected]
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Da razjasnim i jednu stvar. Nemam vi?e naloga na betpandi, samo jedan. Ali nisu uspeli da zatvore jedan na 2 zasebna zahteva koji su zahtevali tako zbog zavisnosti od kockanja.
Ironija je u tome ?to im je, kada sam do?ao tre?i put da im dam zvani?nu ?albu, trebalo manje od jednog minuta da zatvore moj nalog, dok je na sve ostale zahteve po e-poruci trebalo oko 4 dana za odgovore.
Betpanda je tako?e naveo da ?askanje za podr?ku ne mo?e da obradi zatvaranje naloga, dok su oni u ovom slu?aju uradili.
Dakle, generalno, ovaj kazino je ovde delovao veoma lo?e. A zahtev za povra?aj u objektivnom pogledu treba da razmotre. Ako ne, trebalo bi da u budu?nosti uklone odgovorno igranje iz odeljka 9 u svojim uslovima.
Thomas,
Let me also clear one thing. I don't have multiple accounts on betpanda, only one. But they failed to close one on 2 seperate requests demanding so due to gambling addiction.
The irony in this is that, when i came the third time to give them the formal complaint, it took them under a minute to close my account, when all other requests per email has taken about 4 days for responses.
Betpanda also stated that support chat can't process a account closure, while they in this case did.
So overall this casino acted in very bad faith here. And a refund request in a objective view should be considered by them. If not they should remove the responsible gaming from section 9 in their terms in the future.
Hvala vam puno, kingdms na pru?anju potrebnih informacija. Sada ?u preneti va?u ?albu kolegi Jozefu ( [email protected] ) koji ?e vam biti na usluzi. ?elim vam puno sre?e i nadam se da ?e problem biti re?en na va?e zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budu?nosti.
Thank you very much, kingdms for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Jozef ([email protected]) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Nadam se da ?e svi koji vide ovu ?albu javno razmisliti pre nego ?to deponuju.
Samo biti kazino koji ?ak ni ne odgovara na ?albe pokazuje nezrelost. I poku?ao sam u vi?e navrata da do?em do livechata, gde ga zatvaraju.
I recognize that Betpanda has yet to respond here.
I hope everyone who sees this complaint publicly will take a second thought before depositing.
Just being a casino that doesn't even respond to complaints show immaturity. And i have tried on multiple occasions to reach out in livechat, where they close it.
Ali razgovarao sam sa svojim norve?kim advokatima i poku?a?emo da sprovedemo snimljene (17.10.2023.) uslove Korporacije registrovane u Kostariki, jer se to ?ini kao jedina opcija s obzirom na njihova ograni?enja licence.
U svakom slu?aju, ako nema odgovora za 3 dana ili vi?e, i dalje cenim svu pomo? GURU-a i njihovu svest prema betpanda.io.
But i have spoken to my Norwegian lawyers, and we will try to enforce the snapshotted (17.10.2023) terms of the Corporation registered in Costa Rica, as this seems like the only option considering their license limitations.
Anyways, if there is no response in 3 days or so, i still appreciated all the help of GURU, and their awareness towards betpanda.io.
Cenim ovo, sa?eka?u sve svoje spoljne aktivnosti protiv kazina, dok ne dobijem potvrdu njihovog prisustva, ili odbijanja prisustva na Guru-u.
Nadam se da ?emo ovo re?iti.
Thank you Jozef.
I appreciate this, i will await all my external activities against the casino, until i receive a confirmation of their presence, or refusal of presence on Guru.
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritu?bu. Produ?ujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predvi?enom roku, prigovo ?emo zatvoriti kao "nere?en", ?to mo?e negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Upravo sam danas stupio u kontakt sa kazinom kako treba, sada su rekli da ?e moje pra?enje biti prosle?eno menad?erskom timu. Ovo vidim kao znak napretka i nadam se da ?e na njega uskoro biti odgovoreno.
Pre nekoliko dana sam pisao o situaciji na jednom od najve?ih foruma kazina, i ona je dobila odre?enu pa?nju. Nakon toga, jedan od administratora na forumu je rekao da uskoro mogu o?ekivati e-po?tu od njih. Tada sam odlu?io da pitam betpandu live chat o mom slu?aju. Sada su mi prvi put odgovorili nakon ?to je ova ?alba nastala
?ekam i nadam se odgovoru i putem e-po?te. I voleo bih da to re?imo, kako bismo i ja i kazino mogli da nastavimo dalje.
Hi,
I have just today gotten in contact with the casino properly, now they said my followup will be forwarded to the management team. I see this as a sign of progress, and hope it will be responded to soon.
A few days ago i posted about the situation on one of the biggest casino's forums, and it got some traction. After that, one of the admins on the forum said i could expect a email from them soon. I then decided to ask betpanda live chat about my case. They have now for the first time responded to me after this complaint was created
I await, and hope for a respond per email also. And would like for us to resolve this, so both me and the casino can move on.
Kazino me je lagao pre neki dan, po?to su se sada vratili da vi?e ne odgovaraju, klasi?ni prevaranti da imaju poreme?aje multipersonalnosti, kao i oni. Razlog za?to ovo ka?em je zato ?to samo jedna osoba vodi betpandu.
Sada vidim da tajmer isti?e, kada se to desi posla?emo sve nacrte dokumenata preko komisije EU, da iznudimo neke sankcije registrovanoj kompaniji.
Pro?lo je vreme za njih da zloupotrebljavaju kockare koji izazivaju zavisnost. Najgore je ?to time kr?e i ?zakon o ljudskim pravima" i ?to bi trebalo vrlo lagano napredovati.
Sada se nadam da ?u, kada dobiju kaznu, ili neku kaznu, ovo javno objaviti ako je mogu?e.
Hvala za svu pomo?.
The casino lied to me the other day, as they now are back to not responding again, classic scammers to have multipersonality disorders, like they do. The reason i say this is because there is only 1 person running betpanda.
Now i see the timer is running out, once that happens we will send all the drafted documents through the EU comission, to force some sanctions agains the registered company.
Time is over for them to abuse addictive gamblers. The worst part is that they are also breaking the "human rights act" by doing so, and should thread very lightly forward.
Now i hope once they get a fine, or some punishment i can publish this here publicly if possible.
To je novost za mene. Upravo sam danas rekao svojim advokatima da zadr?e sve podneske. Sre?om, nije podneta kako je trebalo da bude poslata ove nedelje.
Hvala, sa?eka?u
Ali bio bih vam zahvalan da to razjasnite slede?i put, jer sam ve? potro?io 350$ na prijavu. U ovom trenutku samo ?elim da kazino uradi pravu stvar, ali ako ishod nije nikakva pravna radnja i samo gomila pravnih taksi, ja bih to ipak mogao da tra?im, ne?u uzimati vi?e pravnih taksi samo zato ?to kazino i dalje odugovla?i. .
Jeftinije mi je da samo sve prijavim i nastavim dalje, sada sam du?an da platim pravne takse dva puta ako ne mo?ete da re?ite ovo. I ne podle?e mi povra?aju novca iz kazina u zakonitom doga?aju, jer je to gubitak tro?kova bez obrazlo?enja sa moje strane.
You are?
Thats news to me. I told my lawyers just today to hold of any filings. Luckily it was not filed as it should have been sent this week.
Thanks, i will await
But i would appreciate you clearifying this next time, because i already spent 350$ on the filing. At this point i just want the casino to do the right thing, but if the outcome is no legal action and just a bunch of legal fees i might just pursue it anyways, i wont take on more legal fees just because the casino keeps stalling here.
It is cheaper for me to just file everything and move on, now i am liable to pay legal fees twice if you cant solve this. And i am not subject to refund from the casino in a lawfull event, because it is a waste-of-cost without reasoning from my side.
da vas obave?tavam, objavi?u svoj poslednji odgovor u kazinu ispod:
Veoma mi je ?ao zbog situacije, ali za sada smatram da situacija nije pravilno re?ena. Kada igra? obavesti va?u podr?ku o problemu sa kockanjem, njegov nalog treba da bude blokiran ?to je pre mogu?e. Pored toga, kazino bi trebalo da bude proaktivan u spre?avanju igra?a da kreira dalje naloge, u najmanju ruku blokiranjem registracije sa istom adresom e-po?te, a tako?e da ne otvara takve naloge ponovo. Nije bitno da li ste anonimni kazino ili klasi?ni kazino. Jasno je da igra? vi?e nema kontrolu, a minimum koji mo?ete da uradite je da blokirate takav nalog. Ako se ne daju dodatne informacije, onda bi povra?aj novca bio opravdan prema na?em mi?ljenju.
Tako?e ste izjavili da:
Ovaj igra? je 2. oktobra poslao zahtev za zatvaranje naloga. Istog dana je dobio pripremljeni odgovor podr?ke.
Mo?ete li da mi pru?ite komunikaciju koju ste imali sa igra?em tokom ovog perioda (2. – 14.)?
Ra?un je zatvoren 12 dana nakon prvobitnog zahteva, da li postoji razlog za?to je toliko odlo?en?
Za sada, kazino nije odgovorio. Produ?i?u tajmer jo? jednom i ako ne odgovore, zatvori?u ?albu kao neuspe?no samoisklju?ivanje. Nere?ena ?alba ?e negativno uticati na njihov indeks bezbednosti na na?oj veb stranici.
Dear Kingdoms,
to keep you informed, I am going to post my last reply to the casino below:
I am very sorry about the situation but as for now I believe the situation was not handled correctly. When a player informs your support about a gambling problem, their account should be blocked as soon as possible. Additionally, the casino should be proactive in preventing the player from creating further accounts, at the very least by blocking registrations with the same email address, also not to reopen such accounts. It does not matter if you are anonymous casino or classic casino. It is clear that player is no longer in control, and minimum you can do to help is to block such a account. If no further information is provided, then the refund would be justified according to our opinion.
You also stated that:
This player sent a request to close his account on October 2nd. He received a canned support reply the same day.
Could you provide me with the communication you had with player during this period (2nd – 14th)?
The account was closed 12 days after initial request, is there any reason why it was so delayed?
As for now, the casino has not replied. I will extend the timer one more time and if they fail to reply I will close the complaint as failed self-exclusion. An unresolved complaint will negatively impact their safety index on our website.
Moji advokati su mi upravo poslali e-po?tu da su razgovarali sa Betpandinom podr?kom, a ?osoblje podr?ke za uspeh" pozvalo je Mejera.
Citiram da su rekli ?Ne pravimo nikakve ?albe sa www.kpvfaw.com, samo obra?ujemo ?albe na na?u veb lokaciju".
Ovo nazivam veoma zanemarivanjem, jer su izjavili da obra?uju pritu?be na svoj sajt, ?to nisu priznali ovde u mom slu?aju. Sedmo kr?enje njihovih uslova
Mislim da kazino nije ni video ovu ?albu, i pozivam www.kpvfaw.com poslednji put da u potpunosti ukloni betpandu sa svog sajta i osudi ih kao la?nu veb lokaciju. Veb stranica iz analize koju su postavili moji advokati ima crvene zastavice gde navode slede?e.
Osudite aktivnosti pranja novca kao potencijalne pojave i pojave.
Siva linija posledica i delovanja zakona o ljudskim pravima i upu?ivanje zdravstvene organizacije.
Ne po?tuje svoje osnovne uslove pru?anja dovoljne usluge jednakosti potro?a?ima u EU, jer oni sami posluju u EU.
+14 jo? nepravilnosti.
Sve ovo ?e biti poslato preko komisije EU, i to direktno na njihovu registrovanu adresu poslovanja. Ovu analizu radi veoma profesionalna firma i kreira se pun izve?taj.
Da?u www.kpvfaw.com da a?urira ovaj slu?aj do utorka, ili kao zatvoren, ili re?enje. Nakon toga ?e sve biti podneto, i ne?e biti ?aljenja ili promena u na?im podnescima.
Ovo je moj poslednji odgovor ako ga guru nije re?io.
My lawyers just emailed me they talked to Betpanda support, and the "success staff of support" called Meier.
I quote they said "We do no array complaints with www.kpvfaw.com, we only handle complaints to our site".
I call this being very neglecting, as they stated they handle complaints to their site, which they have failed to acknowledge here in my case. A 7th breach of their terms
I think the casino has not even seen this complaint, and i urge www.kpvfaw.com for the last time to completly remove betpanda from their site, and condem them as a fraudelent website. The website from an analysis my lawyers set up, has red flags where they specify following.
Condem money laundering activities as the potential of occurance, and occuring.
Grayline the consequence and action of the human rights act, and human health organisation referance.
Does not follow their premit terms of offering sufficient equallity service to EU consumers, as they where operating in EU themselves.
+14 more irregulatities.
This will all be sent through the EU comission, and directly to their registered address of operations. This analysis is done by a very professional firm, and a full report is created.
I will give www.kpvfaw.com to update this case by tuesday, either as closed, or a resolution. After that all will be filed, and there will be no regrets or changes to our filings.
This is my last response if guru has not resolved it.
Veoma mi je ?ao, ali po?to kazino tim nije odgovorio na moju poslednju e-po?tu, nismo u mogu?nosti da nastavimo sa istragom. Na osnovu informacija koje su dale obe strane, ?ini se da proces samoisklju?enja nije bio pravilno sproveden. Vidite prilog kao dokaz da sam zaista komunicirao sa njima (ovo je bio njihov poslednji odgovor).
Nemam drugu opciju osim da zatvorim slu?aj kao 'nere?en'. Imajte na umu da ?e ova ?alba uticati na njihov indeks bezbednosti na na?oj veb stranici. Slobodno me kontaktirajte ako imate bilo kakvih pitanja ili vam je potrebna dodatna pomo?.
I am very sorry, but since the casino team has not been responsive to my last email, we are unable to continue with the investigation. Based on the information provided by both sides, it seems that the self-exclusion process was not handled correctly. See the attachment as evidence I really communicated with them (this was their last reply).
I have no other option than to close the case as 'unresolved'. Please note that this complaint will have an impact on their safety index on our website. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions or require further assistance.
www.kpvfaw.com je nezavistan izvor informacija o online kazinima i online kazino igrama, i nije kontrolisan od strane bilo kojeg operatora igara ili bilo koje druge institucije. Sve na?e recenzije i vodi?i su kreirani iskreno, u skladu sa najboljim znanjem i rasu?ivanjem na?ih ?lanova iz ekspertskog tima; ipak ovaj sadr?aj je napravljen u informativne svrhe i ne bi smeo i trebao da se tuma?i kao pravni savet. Bitno je da uvek ispunite sve regulatorne zahteve pre nego po?nete igrati u odre?enom kazinu.