Zajedno sa na?om metodologijom recenzija, mi smo izra?unali Sigurnosni indeks kazina baziran na vi?e od 20 faktora, uklju?uju?i finansije, fer Uslove i pravila, prigovore igra?a i drugo. ?to je vi?i Sigurnosni indeks, ve?e su ?anse da vam va?i dobici budu ispla?eni.
The player from Croatia has been blocked. The casino confiscated his winnings and refunded the deposit. It seems that the casino believes the player created multiple accounts. It came to light that the player accumulated their winnings by placing bets on sports. As we do not currently have enough insight into sports betting to be able to make an informed assessment of the case, the complaint was rejected.
Igra? iz Hrvatske je blokiran. Kazino je zaplenio njegov dobitak i vratio depozit. ?ini se da kazino veruje da je igra? napravio vi?e naloga. Ispostavilo se da je igra? akumulirao svoje dobitke klade?i se na sport. Kako trenutno nemamo dovoljno uvida u sportsko kla?enje da bismo mogli da damo informisanu procenu slu?aja, ?alba je odbijena.
Zdravo, otvaram nalog. Upla?ujem 650$, igram i zaradim oko 2.8k $. Nakon toga ?elim da podignem novac, ka?u mi veza sa ra?unom mbabi? i poni?tili su mi sve dobitke i povukli su mi samo depozit i trajno zatvorili ra?un. Nikada ne ?ujem za ovo korisni?ko ime, nemam nikakvu vezu sa ovim nalogom. Mo?e? li mi pomo?i. Imam jo? dokaza. Ukrali su mi dobitak kada vide da pobe?ujem.
Ra?un: h***99
Hi, I open account. I deposit 650$, I play and I make about 2.8k $. After that I want withdraw money, they say me my connection with account mbabic and they cancelled all my win and withdraw me only deposit and permanently closed account. I never hear for this username, I havent any connection with this account. Please can you help me. I have more proofs. They stole me winnings when they see I win.
Hvala vam puno ?to ste podneli ?albu. ?ao mi je ?to ?ujem za va? problem. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju. Da li sam dobro razumeo da kazino veruje da ste kreirali vi?e naloga? Ili kazino veruje da sara?ujete sa ovim igra?em? Mo?ete li da nam ka?ete da li ste pro?li KIC verifikaciju pre nego ?to vas je kazino blokirao?
Da li ste akumulirali svoje dobitke sa ili bez aktivnog bonusa?
Nadam se da ?emo mo?i da vam pomognemo da re?ite ovaj problem ?to je pre mogu?e. Hvala vam unapred na odgovoru.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Kristina
Dear hmarkoticc67,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Do I understand correctly that the casino believes you created more than one account? Or does the casino believe that you cooperate with this player? Could you please advise if you passed the KYC verification before the casino blocked you?
Have you accumulated your winnings with or without an active bonus?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Hvala vam na odgovoru, hmarkoticc67. Mo?ete li da nam ka?ete da li ste pro?li KIC verifikaciju pre nego ?to vas je kazino blokirao? Na koje igre ste se fokusirali – kazino igre ili sportsko kla?enje?
Ako postoji bilo kakva druga relevantna komunikacija izme?u vas i kazina, molimo vas da je prosledite na [email protected] ili je postavite ovde.
Thank you for your reply, hmarkoticc67. Could you please advise if you passed the KYC verification before the casino blocked you? Which games did you focus on - casino games or sports betting?
If there is any other relevant communication between you and the casino, please forward it to [email protected], or alternatively, post it here.
Javljamo vam se u vezi sa va?im najnovijim povla?enjem.
Va?e trenutno povla?enje ide pod standardnom bezbednosnom proverom, ?to mo?e potrajati du?e nego ina?e, jer sve transakcije proverava na? bezbednosni tim.
Ako postoji dodatna potreba za potvrdom povla?enja, posla?emo vam pismo potvrde na va?u e-po?tu za registraciju.
?ao nam je zbog neprijatnosti.
Na sre?u i sre?u.
Zdravo Hrvojemarkotic67,
Kontaktiramo vas u vezi sa statusom va?eg naloga. FortuneJack striktno sprovodi svoju politiku ne dozvoljavanja vi?e naloga, a utvr?eno je da je va? nalog povezan sa mbabic-om, ?to se smatra nelegitimnom upotrebom na?e veb stranice.
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Va?e povla?enje je otkazano i dozvoljeno vam je da povu?ete samo iznos svog depozita.
?im podnesete zahtev za povla?enje, va? nalog ?e biti zatvoren.
I dont passed KYC verification.
Only this they send:
Hello hrki99,
We are reaching out regarding your latest withdrawal.
Your current withdrawal is going under standard security check, it may take longer than usual, as all transactions are checked by our security team.
If there is an additional need to confirm withdrawal, we will send you the confirmation letter to your registration email.
We are sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours in luck and good fortune.
Hi Hrvojemarkotic67,
We are contacting you in regards to your account status. FortuneJack strictly enforces its policy of not allowing multiple accounts, and your account has been found to be associated with mbabic, which is considered illegitimate use of our website.
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Your withdrawal is cancelled and you are allowed to withdraw your deposit amount only .
As soon as you make withdrawal request your account will be closed .
Hvala vam puno hmarkoticc67 na saradnji. Sada ?u preneti va?u ?albu svom kolegi Adamu ( [email protected] ) koji ?e vam biti u pomo?i. ?elim vam puno sre?e i nadam se da ?e va? problem uskoro biti re?en na va?e zadovoljstvo.
Thank you very much hmarkoticc67 for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Adam ([email protected]) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Pregledao sam va? slu?aj i kontaktira?u kazino da vidim da li mogu da pomognem.
?eleli bismo da pozovemo FortuneJack Casino da se pridru?i razgovoru i u?estvuje u re?avanju ove ?albe.
Dragi FortuneJack Casino,
Igra? je optu?en da koristi vi?e naloga i zbog toga im je nalog blokiran. Mogu li da vas zamolim da nam pru?ite dodatne informacije i prate?e dokaze o kori??enju vi?e naloga?
Srda?an pozdrav,
Adam
Hello hmarkoticc67,
I have reviewed your case and will contact the casino to see if I can help.
We would like to invite FortuneJack Casino to join the conversation and participate in the resolution of this complaint.
Dear FortuneJack Casino,
The player has been accused of using multiple accounts and consequently had their account blocked. Could I ask you to please provide us with further information and supporting evidence of the use of multiple accounts?
Do sada nije bilo odgovora iz kazina. Poku?a?u ponovo da ih kontaktiram.
U me?uvremenu, javite mi ako do?e do pomaka.
?eleli bismo da zamolimo FortuneJack Casino da odgovori na ovu ?albu. Produ?ujemo tajmer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u zadatom roku, ?alba ?e postati ?nere?ena" ?to mo?e negativno uticati na njen rejting.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Adam
Dear hmarkoticc67,
There has been no response from the casino so far. I will attempt to contact them again.
In the meantime, please let me know if there are any developments.
We would like to ask FortuneJack Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, the complaint will become ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Imajte na umu da je hrki99 zaista registrovan nalog na FortuneJack-u. Kako je Korisnik povukao svoj dobitak, povla?enje je pro?lo pod standardnom sigurnosnom provjerom, pri ?emu smo utvrdili da je ra?un pod imenom hrki99 povezan sa drugim nalogom – mbabic.
U skladu sa odredbama i uslovima (T&C) paragraf 2.5 ?Dozvoljeno vam je da registrujete samo jedan nalog. Registrovanje i upravljanje vi?e naloga (vi?e od jednog) je strogo zabranjeno. Kompanija zadr?ava pravo da kvalifikuje nalog(e) registrovane na bilo koga iz Va?e porodice, doma?instva, ro?aka, prijatelja ili na drugi na?in povezanu osobu kao Va? drugi nalog i na taj na?in odlu?i da imate vi?e naloga. U slu?aju vi?estrukog ra?unovodstva, zadr?avamo pravo da odmah blokiramo i ukinemo sve takve ra?une i konfiskujemo sva nov?ana sredstva dostupna na tim ra?unima".
U ovom konkretnom slu?aju oba korisnika - hrki99 i mbabic su registrovani pod istom IP adresom (molimo prona?ite prilo?eni snimak ekrana). ?tavi?e, na? tim za prevare je tako?e analizirao pona?anje korisnika i oni su bili veoma sli?ni.
FortuneJack striktno primenjuje svoju politiku ne dozvoljavanja vi?e naloga i povezivanje korisnika sa drugim nalogom smatra se nelegitimnom upotrebom na?e veb stranice. Zbog nepo?tovanja uslova i uslova oba naloga su blokirana. Uprkos tome ?to smo imali pravo da konfiskujemo sva sredstva, na? tim je odlu?io da dozvoli hrki99 da povu?e iznos depozita nazad u svoj nov?anik, ?to je on uspe?no i uradio. Odluka u vezi sa ovim slu?ajem je kona?na i ne?e se ni na koji na?in menjati jer imamo sve dokaze i dokaze o kr?enju.
Ako imate jo? pitanja u vezi sa ?albom, ne oklevajte da nas kontaktirate.
ampera | Vo?a zajednice u FortuneJack-u
Hello everyone,
Please, be informed that hrki99 was indeed a registered account on FortuneJack. As the User withdrew his/her winnings, the withdrawal went under standard security check, where we found that the account under the name hrki99 was associated with another account – mbabic.
In accordance with the Terms & Conditions (T&C) paragraph 2.5 "You are allowed to register only one Account. Registering and operating multiple Accounts (more than one) is strictly prohibited. The Company reserves the right to qualify the account(s) registered on anyone from Your family, household, relative, friend, or otherwise connected person to be Your other Account and, thus, decide that You have multiple Accounts. In case of multiple Accounting, We reserve the right to immediately block and terminate all such Accounts and confiscate all monetary funds available on such Accounts".
In this particular case both users - hrki99 and mbabic were registered under the same IP address (please, find the attached screenshot). Moreover, our fraud team also analyzed users’ behavior and they were very similar.
FortuneJack strictly enforces its policy of not allowing multiple accounts and the User’s association with another account is considered to be illegitimate use of our website. Due to non-compliance with T&C both accounts were blocked. Despite us having the right to confiscate all the funds, our team decided to let hrki99 withdraw the deposit amount back to his wallet, which he did successfully. The decision regarding this case is final and will not be altered in any way as we have all the proof and evidence of the violation.
If you have more questions regarding the complaint, don't hesitate to get in touch with us.
Pre svega, to nije dokaz da su 2 naloga povezana. I sami znate da mo?ete koristiti vifi iz kafi?a ili restorana i da se svi povezuju na istu baznu stanicu i da vam se taj IP ?ita. Ne razumem kakvo bi trebalo da bude moje pona?anje nakon ?to mi uzme? 2800 dolara, jer bi trebalo da se pomirim? Nisi mi dao ni verifikaciju, nemam veze sa tim nalogom. I sami znate da kada idete negde se povezujete na vifi. Da li to zna?i da ako putujem i pove?em se na vifi na aerodromu, a neko iz druge zemlje putuje u isto vreme i pove?e se da je to vi?estruki nalog?? Tvoje obrazlo?enje je stvarno lo?e, nisam ni pro?ao verifikaciju. I to ti nije dokaz jer je jednom bio povezan na taj IP i tebi je dokaz da su nalozi povezani??
First of all, it is not proof that the 2 accounts are connected. You yourself know that you can use wifi from a cafe or restaurant and that everyone connects to the same base station and that IP is read to you. I don't understand what my behavior is supposed to be after you take $2800 from me, because I'm supposed to take it easy? You didn't even let me pass the verification, I have nothing to do with that account. You yourself know that when you go somewhere you connect to wifi. Does that mean if I'm traveling and connect to wifi at the airport and someone from another country is traveling at the same time and connects that it's a multiple account?? Your reasoning is really bad, I didn't even pass the verification. And that's not proof to you because it was connected to that IP once and it's proof to you that the accounts are connected??
Navedite dodatne dokaze o tome kako su ovi nalozi povezani i kako su kori??eni. Postoji li jo? neki link pored IP adrese? Da li je bilo koji nalog prihvatio bonus? Da li su kori??eni za igranje kazino igara ili kla?enje na sport? Tako?e razjasnite ?ta je bilo sli?no u pona?anju korisnika.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Adame
Dear FortuneJack casino,
Please provide further proof of how these accounts are linked, and how they have been used. Is there any other link beside the IP address? Has either account accepted a bonus? Have they been used for playing casino games or betting on sports? Please also clarify what was similar about the users' behavior.
Nakon interne rasprave o ovoj ?albi, bojim se da moram da vas obavestim da vi?e ne?emo mo?i da vam poma?emo u ovom slu?aju.
Kazino je pru?io dokaze koji sugeri?u da koristite vi?e naloga.
Kada procenjujemo slu?ajeve vi?e naloga, posmatramo kako su nalozi mo?da kori??eni da bi se stekla nepravedna prednost u odnosu na kazino. Potvrdili ste da ste akumulirali doti?ni dobitak kla?enjem na sport. Trenutno nemamo dovoljno uvida u sportsko kla?enje da bismo mogli da vas ispravno savetujemo ili donesemo dobro informisanu odluku o kori??enju va?eg naloga/sportske platforme.
Shodno tome, ?alba ?e biti odbijena. ?ao mi je ?to ovom prilikom ne mo?emo biti od ve?e pomo?i, ali ne ustru?avajte se da nas kontaktirate ako u budu?nosti nai?ete na bilo kakve probleme sa bilo kojim kazinom.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Adam
Dear hmarkoticc67,
After discussing this complaint internally, I am afraid I must inform you that we will no longer be able to assist you with this case.
The casino has provided evidence that suggests your use of multiple accounts.
When we assess multiple accounts cases, we look at how the accounts may have been used to gain an unfair advantage over the casino. You confirmed you have accumulated the winnings in question by placing bets on sports. We currently do not have enough insight into sports betting to be able to advise you correctly or make a well-informed decision about the usage of your account/sports platforms.
Consequently, the complaint will be rejected. I’m sorry we can't be of more help on this occasion, but please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with any casino in the future.
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