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Evo nekoliko snimaka ekrana iz razgovora sa operaterima kazina.
Here are some screenshots from the chat with the casino operators.
Estas son algunas capturas del chat con los operadores del casino
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Evo nekoliko snimaka ekrana iz razgovora sa operaterima kazina.
Here are some screenshots from the chat with the casino operators.
Estas son algunas capturas del chat con los operadores del casino
Ka?u mi da mi ne mogu pru?iti ove informacije i tra?im neki dokaz, a oni odbijaju da to urade, govore?i da to nije ni na koji na?in mogu?e.
They tell me that they cannot provide me with this information and I ask for some proof and they refuse to do so, saying that it is not possible in any way.
Me dicen que no pueden proporcionarme es información y les pido algún comprobante y se niegan hacerlo que no se puede de ninguna manera
Nikada nisam ?uo/?ula da je pru?anje detalja o transakciji primaocu bezbednosna briga ili mera. Meni to zvu?i glupo. Deluje kao sme?an izgovor jer, ako je novac poslat, najjednostavniji na?in da se problem re?i bio bi da se pru?i dokaz. Za?to takav logi?an korak nije mogu?? To navodi ?oveka na razmi?ljanje...
I have never heard that providing transaction details to the recipient is a security concern or measure. To me, it sounds silly. It appears to be a ridiculous excuse because, if the money has been sent, the simplest way to resolve the issue would be to provide proof. Why is such a logical step not possible? That leaves one thinking...
?ta se jo? mo?e u?initi u ovom slu?aju?
What else can be done in this case?
Que más se puede hacer en este caso?
Bojim se da nije ba? mnogo ovde na forumu.
Me?utim, uveren sam da bi trebalo da postavite te snimke ekrana uz ?albu kako bi i Tomas mogao da vidi ?sme?an" izgovor. Jo? uvek ima vremena, ali se nadam da ?e a?uriranje sti?i do kraja nedelje.
Zaista mi je ?ao ?to te vidim u takvoj situaciji i voleo bih da mogu vi?e da u?inim.
Not very much here on the forum, I'm afraid.
However, I'm convinced you should upload those screenshots to the complaint so Tomas can see the "funny" excuse too. There is still some time left, yet I hope an update will come by the end of the week.
I'm really sorry to see you in such situation and I wish I could do more.
Zdravo, ?eleo bih da pogledate diskusiju o ?albi koju sam podneo, jer mislim da je Piter, koji je vodio moj slu?aj, nekompetentan i da se predao u mom slu?aju.
Hello, I would like you to check out a thread about a complaint I filed, because I think Peter, who handled my case, is incompetent and sold out on my case.
Hola me gustaría que verificara un hilo de una queja que realice, porque pienso que Peter el que llevaba mi caso es un incompetente y se vendió en mi caso.
Po?tovani korisni?e, iako razumem da ste mo?da nezadovoljni rezultatima, ?eleo bih da vas podsetim na situaciju sa ?albom:
Kazino nam je pru?io dokaze koji ukazuju na prevarnu aktivnost. Iako je ve? utvr?eno da ste optu?eni za iskori??avanje ranjive valutne situacije, dodatni dokazi ukazuju na to da je va?a poker aktivnost bila koordinisana sa aktivno??u va?eg brata. Konkretno, izgleda da ste zajedno ulagali depozite bez u?e??a u stvarnoj igri, ?to je rezultiralo bez dobitaka ili gubitaka, a potom ste povukli sredstva kako biste iskoristili fluktuacije deviznog kursa.
Po?to kazina nisu namenjena da funkcioni?u kao usluge menja?nice, ove radnje su dovele do blokiranja va?eg naloga. ?to se ti?e oduzetih sredstava, zadr?ani iznos odgovara proviziji na sredstva koja nisu aktivno kori??ena u igri .
U svetlu ovih informacija, smatramo da su postupci kazina opravdani i stoga moramo odbaciti va?u ?albu.
Molim vas da se smirite i preispitate svoje prisustvo u onlajn kazinima. Jo? jedan li?ni napad ili glupa li?na optu?ba ?e vas samo izbaciti iz Casino Guru-a.
Cenim va?e razumevanje.
Dear user, Though I understand you may feel dissatisfied with the results, I would like to remind you of the complaint situation:
"The casino has provided us with evidence indicating fraudulent activity. While it was already established that you were accused of exploiting a vulnerable currency situation, additional evidence suggests that your poker activity was coordinated with your brother’s. Specifically, it appears that you jointly wagered deposits without engaging in genuine gameplay, resulting in no wins or losses, and subsequently withdrew the funds to benefit from exchange rate fluctuations.
As casinos are not intended to function as currency exchange services, these actions have led to the blocking of your account. Regarding the confiscated funds, the amount withheld corresponds to a commission on funds that were not actively used in gameplay.
In light of this information, we find the casino’s actions to be justified and must therefore reject your complaint."
I ask you to calm down and reconsider your presence at online casinos. Another personal attack or stupid personal accusation will only get you banned from Casino Guru.
I appreciate your understanding.
Nije me briga da li ?u biti izba?en ili ne, jer sam ti prvo pokazao dokaz kada si mi rekao da kazino ima ranjivost, u redu mi je, za?to? Po?to sam se konsultovao sa njima da li je mogu?e i rekli su mi da nema problema, i pokazao sam im svoje dokaze gde sam vodio razgovore sa Kazinom, nije moja krivica ?to u mojoj zemlji imam tu prednost, zato sam se konsultovao sa njima, sada ljudi mog brata ka?u, tako?e sam mu rekao da nikada nisam varao sa njim, da imamo razli?ite ugovore, to je tamo dokazano i iz nekog razloga sam ljut i ka?em da su se na?alost prodali, jer taj novac nije ?ak ni dobitak u kazinu, to je bio moj depozit koji su blokirali, kako sam vam mirno rekao, ovo je ne?to ?to danas ne?u dokazivati, ali kao ?to sam pomenuo, bi?u odli?an u pokeru i kako god mo?ete, izgreba?u 1win kazino na mre?ama jer je lopov jer je ukrao moj novac, a vas ?to ste to dozvolili, vi?e volim da mi ni?ta ne vra?ate i ka?ete da ne mo?ete to re?iti nego da potvr?ujete ne?to ?to se nije dogodilo, pokazao sam im skandiranje gde sam ih pitao da li je mogu?e i rekli su mi da, a tako?e sam im poslao kako moj brat i ja igramo i ugovore u kojima nismo. ista ku?a. I ako ?elite da me izbacite, ali ko god je u pravu, bori?e se do kraja. Da sam varao, ne bih napravio ovaj sme?an ?in, i kao ?to sam mu rekao, ?ak i ako mora da ide do kraja, tako ?e biti. Kako je mogu?e da, zato ?to to ?ele, ?ekaju da uplatim da bi mi uzeli 1.700 dolara. Nisu to ?ak ni uradili pre nego ?to su uplatili ne?to drugo. Ako varam zato ?to sam sam rekao bratu da verifikuje svoj nalog? Dakle, varam i prizna?u se? To nema smisla.
I don't care if I get kicked out or not, because I showed you the proof first when you told me the Casino has a vulnerability, it's fine with me, why? Because I consulted with them if it was possible and they told me yes that there was no problem, and I showed them my evidence where I have conversations with the Casino, it's not my fault that in my country I have that advantage, that's why I consulted with them, now my brother's people say, I also told him that I never cheated with him, that we have different contracts, that is proven there and for some reason I am upset and saying that they sold out unfortunately, because that money is not even casino winnings it was my deposit that they blocked, how I told you calmly this is something that I am not going to prove today, but as I mentioned I am going to be great at poker and however you can I am going to scratch the 1win Casino on the Networks for being a thief for stealing my money and you for allowing that, I prefer that you do not return anything to me and say that you cannot resolve it than to affirm something that did not happen, I showed them the chant where I asked them if it was possible and they told me yes and I also sent them how my brother and I play and also the contracts that we are not in the same house. And if you want to expel me, but whoever is right will fight to the end. If I had cheated, I wouldn't make this ridiculous act, and like I told him, even if it has to go to the end, that's how it will be. How is it possible that because they want to, they're going to wait for me to deposit to take $1,700 from me. They didn't even do it before depositing something else. If I'm cheating because I myself told my brother to verify his account? So, I cheat and I'm going to confess myself? That doesn't make sense.
Ya me da igual si me expulsan o no, debido aque primero les mostré la prueba cuando ustedes me dicen que el Casino tiene una vulnerabilidad, me vale, xq ? Porque yo consulte con ellos si se podía y me dijeron que si que no había ningún problema, y les mostré mis pruebas dónde tengo conversaciones con el Casino, yo no tengo la culpa que en mi país tenga esa ventaja, por eso consulte con ellos, ahora bien dicen los de mi hermano, también le dije que yo nunca hice trampa con el, que tenemos contratos distintos, eso está allí demostrado y por algo estoy molesto y diciendo que se vendieron lamentablemente, porque ese dinero no es ni ganancias ele casino fue mi depósito que me bloquearon, cómo les dije tranquilo esto es algo que no voy a demostrar hoy, pero como les mencioné yo voy a ser grande en el poker y como puedas voy a rayar por las Redes al Casino 1win por ladron por robar mi dinero y a ustedes por permitir eso, prefiero que no me regresen nada y digan que ustedes no pueden resolver a qué afirmen algo que no pasó, le mostré el chant dónde les pregunté a ellos si se podía y me dijeron que si y también les mandé como jugamos mi hermano y yo y también los contratos que no estamos en la misma casa. Y si querés expulsame, pero el que tiene la razón la pelea hasta lo último, si hubiese hecho trampa no hago este ridiculo y como le dije así tenga que llegar a lo último así va hacer. Cómo es posible que porque ellos quieren van a esperar que yo deposite para quitarme 1700 $ ni siquiera lo hicieron antes de depositar otra cosa si estoy haciendo trampas porque yo mismo le dije a mi hermano que verificara su cuenta ?? Osea yo hago trampas y me voy a confesar yo mismo? Eso no tiene sentido.
A ljudi koji se ovde ?ale na 1win trebalo bi da znaju da su se prodali. Pogledajte moj slu?aj. Trajali su od februara do sada zbog birokratije. Dakle, pretpostavljam da im je 1win kazino platio.
And the people who are here complaining about 1win should know that they are sellouts. See my case. They lasted from February until now for a bureaucracy. So I imagine that the 1win Casino has paid them.
Y la gente que este aquí reclamando con 1win sepan q aquí son unos vendidos vean mi caso duraron desde febrero hasta la presente fecha para una burocracia así me imagino que les habrá pagado el Casino 1win
Stalno krivi? one oko sebe ?to su mi ili kazino, ali zaboravlja? da si samo poku?ao da iskoristi? priliku – prevarantski.
Pa, kraj pri?e, pretpostavljam. To nema mnogo veze sa tim da si po?ten igra?, a tvoje trenutno pona?anje, bojim se, samo to govori o tebi.
Stoga je primarno pitanje: Da li ste za zatvaranje va?eg Casino Guru naloga? Obja?njavanje da ne dobijamo nikakvu uplatu za re?avanje ?albi je gubljenje vremena. Zato se, molim vas, pona?ajte se pristojno ili odlazite.
You keep blaming those around you for being us or the casino, but you forget that you just tried to seize the opportunity—fraudulently.
Well, end of the story, I guess. It has little to do with you being an honest player and your current behavior only says that about you, I'm afraid.
Therefore, the primary inquiry is: Are you in favor of closing your Casino Guru account? Explaining that we receive no payment for resolving complaints is a waste of time. So, behave or leave, please.
Sada ?u vam re?i ?ta se desilo, moja valuta je bolivar i dozvoljavali su depozite u bolivarima, 10 dolara na primer je ekvivalentno 400 bolivara, ali u mojoj zemlji postoje dva kursa, dolar u gotovini vredi 400 bolivara, a USDT na Binance-u vredi 600 bolivara, zato sam ih pitao da li je mogu?e i rekli su mi da, ne kradem od njih jer sam ipak morao da igram i ula?em 100% depozita, pa kada pitam i ka?u mi da, ko je kriv??? Bilo bi druga?ije da nisam kupio, jesam rekao bratu, ali nikada nismo igrali zajedno jer nema smisla, znam da je to varanje, jer ne pi?e da nema saobra?aja u toj prostoriji i ako ni?ta drugo, ponekad se poklapamo za stolovima, sada zaboravljamo mog brata kada sam te bacio ?ak i ako sam izgubio, ja sam pobedio, ali to je zbog moje zemlje koja ne krade sa 1 pobedom, mislim da je to moj novac i mogu da radim ?ta god ho?u ili ne ?? Jer da su imali dobru veru, poslali bi mi poruku upozorenja ?? ili bi mi jednostavno rekli da to mo?e imati posledice, ali nisu ?ekali da uplatim 1700 i tamo su me blokirali da mi ukradu sredstva, a ti mi ka?e? da je to opravdano ???? Kazino ili soba prepoznata iskustvom vra?a ulo?ena sredstva, ne kradu ih, na primer, ja bih uplatio 10 i osvojio 1700, to je druga?ije, ali sam uplatio 1600, kako je mogu?e da ?e mi ukrasti novac bez opravdanja za problem koji su odobrili, zato ka?em da ste prodani jer ste ?ekali od februara da odbijete moju ?albu i nadam se da ?e svi koji pitaju videti ovu poruku i uveravam vas da ?u u nekom trenutku kada budem influenser uvek negativno govoriti o ovom kazinu i 1win.
Now I'm going to tell you what happened, my currency is bolivars and they allowed deposits in bolivars, 10 $ for example is equivalent to 400 bs, but in my country there are two rates, the dollar $ in cash is worth 400 bs and the USDT in Binance is worth 600 bs, so that's why I asked them if it was possible and they told me yes, I'm not stealing from them because I still had to play and bet 100% of the deposit, so when I ask and they tell me yes, who's to blame ??? It would have been different if I had not bought, I did tell my brother, but never playing together because it doesn't make sense, I know that's cheating, because it doesn't say that there is no traffic in that room and if anything we coincide sometimes at the tables, now we forget my brother when I threw you even if I lost I won, but it's because of my country not stealing at 1 win, I think it's my money and I can do whatever I want or not ?? Because if they have good faith they would have sent me a warning message ?? or simply tell me that it may have consequences, but they didn't wait for me to deposit 1700 and there they blocked me to steal my funds and you tell me that this is justified ???? A casino or a room recognized by experience returns the invested funds, they do not steal them, for example, I would have deposited 10 and won 1700, it is different, but I deposited 1600, how is it possible that they are going to steal my money without justification for an issue that they approved, so that is why I say that you are sellouts because you waited since February to reject my complaint and I hope that all those who ask see this message and I assure you that at some point when I am an influencer I will always speak negatively about this Casino and 1win.
Ahora bien les voy a contar que paso, mi moneda es bolívares y esllo permitían depósitos en bolívares, 10 $ por ejemplo equivalen a 400 bs, pero en mi país hay dos tasa el dólar $ en efectivo vale 400 bs y el USDT en Binance vale 600 bs, entonces por eso les pregunté a ellos si se podía y me dijeron que si, yo no los estoy robando porque igual había que jugar y apostar el 100 % del depósito entonces cuando yo consulte y me dicen que si quien tiene la culpa ??? Distinto fuese que no hubiese comprado, a mí hermano si le dije, pero jamás jugando en conjunto porque no tienen sentido, se que eso es hacer trampa, porque no dice que en la sala esa no hay trafico y si acaso coincidimos algunas veces en las mesas ,ahora bien olvidamos a mi hermano cuando yo te tiraba así perdiera ganaba, pero es por el tema de mi país no robando a 1 win, creo que es mi Dinero y puedo hacer lo quee venga en ganas o no ?? Porque si ellos tienen buena fe me hubiesen mandado un mensjao de advertencia ?? o sencillamente me dicen que puede traer consecuencias, pero no esperaron a que yo depositara 1700 y allí me bloquearon para robarme mis fondos y ustedes me dicen que eso está justificado ???? Un casino o una sala reconocida por experiencia regresan los fondos invertido no se los roban, ejemplo yo hubiese depositado 10 y en ganó 1700 es distinto pero yo deposite 1600 como es posible que me van a robar mi dinero sin tener justificación por un tema que ellos mis aprobaron entonces por eso digo que ustedes son unos vendidos porque esperaron desde febrero para rechazar mi queja y espero que todos los que pidan vean este mensaje y les aseguro que en algún momento cuando sea influencer siempre voy hablar de manera negativa de este Casino y de 1win.
Nemate definitivnu istinu, pokaza?u svoje dokaze kome god da je to, ovo je prvi put da vidim da se neko ?ali nakon odluke i to je zato ?to sam svestan da sam u pravu, va?a porodico, neka vas Bog blagoslovi, ali su mi oduzeli hleb svakodnevni i vi?e u situaciji moje zemlje, ali u mojoj situaciji moj sin je patio i gladovali smo nekoliko meseci zbog tog kazina i kao ?to sam vam rekao, imam svoje dokaze i to mi vredi, pokazao sam vam sve suprotno kazinu gde sam im rekao da su to odobrili i gde ne igram sa svojim bratom.
You do not have the definitive truth, I will show my evidence to whoever it may be, it is the first time that I see someone complain after a decision and it is because I am aware that I am right, your family God bless you but they took away my daily bread and more in the situation of my country, but in my situation my son suffered and we went hungry for several months because of that casino and as I told you I have my evidence and that is worth it to me, I showed you everything contrary to the Casino where I told them that they approved that and where I do not play with my brother
Ustedes no tiene la verdad definitiva yo a quien sea le voy a mostrar mis pruebas, primera vez que ven q alguien reclama después de una decisión y es porque estoy conciente que estoy en lo correcto, tu familia Dios la bendiga pero a mí me quitaron el pan de cada día y más en la situación de mi país, pero en mi situación mi hijo sufrió y pasamos hambre varios meses por culpa de ese casino y como te dije tengo mi pruebas y eso para mí vale, yo a ustedes le demostré todo lo contrario al Casino donde le dije que ellos aprobaron eso y dónde yo no juego con mi hermano
Dragi/a,
Ovo nije o tome da ja ili vi znate kona?nu istinu. Radi se o tome kako ste se me?ali u pravila kazina i sa kojim namerama. Razumem da vam ova situacija mora biti te?ka, ali ovakvo pona?anje vam ne?e koristiti. Jednostavno ne mo?emo da primoramo kazino da vam plati jer su va?i postupci bili sasvim o?igledni. O?ekivao bih da znate da je oslanjanje na novac koji ?ula?ete" u kazino velika gre?ka, posebno ako je va?a situacija kod ku?e toliko o?ajna. Sada, naravno, razumem za?to ste poku?ali da sakupite ?to vi?e novca na bilo koji na?in. Pa ipak, izgleda da je to bio lo? izbor.
Ako ?elite, obratite se nadle?nom organu za licenciranje ili se konsultujte sa advokatima. Mo?da jo? uvek postoje neke opcije.
Dear,
This is not about me or you having the final truth. It is about how you interfered with the casino's rules and with what intentions. I understand that this situation must be difficult for you, but behaving in this way will not benefit you. We just can't push the casino to pay you because your actions were quite obvious. I would expect you to know that depending on money you "invest" in a casino is a big mistake, especially if your situation back home is that desperate. Now I, of course, understand why you tried to collect as much money as possible by any means. Yet it was a bad choice, it seems.
If you want, go ahead to the licensing authority or consult lawyers. Perhaps there are still some options left.
Dakle, ?ivot je blagoslov, imam kazino i ka?em igra?u, ah, nisi se pridr?avao pravila, oduze?u ti ono ?to si uplatio, nikada nisam tamo osvojio 1.700 dolara, pa uplatim 1.600 dolara, a oni mi ih uzmu, a ti do?e? i ka?e? mi da je legalno da uzmu novac koji nije njihov, razumem da mogu da tvrde ?ta god ?ele, ali taj novac koji sam uplatio nisam zaradio, prodajem svoj motor i neke ure?aje da uplatim, ali to tebi nije va?no ?to podr?ava? lopovski kazino, ali dobro, od Bo?anske pravde niko nije spasen, ja bih se zadovoljio da mi daju novac i uzmu svoj profit, drugi put je ugledni kazino poput Bodoga nenamerno napravio ozbiljniju gre?ku i vratio mi depozit, ali ne brini, jednog dana ?emo se ponovo videti, ali vrati?u se sa vi?e snage.
So life is a blessing, that I have a Casino and I tell a player, aha, you did not comply with the rules, I am going to take away what you deposited, I never won $1,700 there, so I deposit $1,600 and they take it from me and you come and tell me that it is legal for them to take money that is not theirs, I understand that they can allege whatever they want but that money I deposited was not that I earned it, I sell my engine and some appliances to deposit but that does not matter to you for supporting a thieving casino, but well, from Divine Justice Nobody is saved, I would have settled for them to give me my money and take their profit, the other time a respected casino like Bodog inadvertently made a more serious mistake and returned my deposit, but don't worry, one day we will see each other again, but I will come back with more strength.
Así la vida es una bendición, que yo tenga un Casino y le diga a un jugador aja no cumpliste con el reglamento te voy a quitar lo que depositaste, yo nunca me gane allí 1700 $ entonces deposito 1600 $ y ellos me los quitan y llegan ustedes y me dicen que eso es legal que ellos quiten un dinero que no es de ellos, yo entiendo que ellos pueden alegal lo que quiera pero ese dinero yo lo deposite no fue que me lo gane, yo vendo mi motor y algunos electrodomésticos para depositar pero eso a ustedes no les importa por apoyar a un casino ladrón, pero bueno de la Justicia Divina Nadie se salva, yo me hubiese conformado que me entreguen mi dinero y agarren su ganancia, la otra vez una casino respetado como Bodog sin querés cometí un error más grave y me regreso mi depósito,.pero descuiden algún día nos volvemos a ver, pero vendre con más fuerzas.
Nisam ovde da bih promenio tvoje mi?ljenje ili da bih nastavio da se zala?em iz opravdanih razloga. Saose?am sa izazovima sa kojima si se suo?io.
Ostani bolje, molim te.
I'm not here to change your opinion or keep advocating for fair reasons. I empathize with the challenges you have faced.
Stay better, please.
Ne brini prijatelju, prijatelju, ve? sam vratio svoj bankrol i planiram da igram poker na visokim nivoima i da budem poker influenser, ali kao ?to sam ti rekao, 1700 dolara nije ni?ta, povredilo me je jer je moja porodica patila, ali kao ?to sam ti rekao, ne varam, i hvala Bogu ?to sam ponovo napredovao, sada sam motivisaniji i kada do?e vreme, dokaza?u da su 1win prevaranti i da nisi 100% pouzdan, jer sam im pru?io dovoljno dokaza da bi mi taj kazino vratio novac, nisam tra?io dobitke ili bilo ?ta drugo, samo moj depozit.
Don't worry friend, friend, I already have my bankroll back, and I plan to play high levels in Poker and be a poker influencer, but as I told you $1700 is nothing, it hurt me because my family suffered but as I told you I don't cheat, and thank God I went up again, now I am more motivated and when the time comes I will prove that 1win are scammers and that you are not 100% trustworthy, because I provided them with enough evidence so that that casino would return my funds, I was not asking for winnings or anything just my deposit.
Descuida amiga, amiga, ya yo tengo de nuevo mi banca, y pienso jugar niveles altos en el Poker y ser influencer de poker, pero como les dije 1700 $ no es nada, me dolió porque mi familia sufrió pero como les dije yo no hago trampas, y gracias a Dios subí de nuevo, ahora estoy más motivado y cuando llegue el momento demostraré el 1win son unos estafadores y que ustedes no son confiables al 100 %, porque yo les suministre las pruebas suficientes era para q ese casino em regresará mis fodos, yo no le estaba pidiendo ganancias ni nada solo mi depósito.
Nema veze, hvala ni za ?ta. Nadam se da ?e Petar u?ivati u ?i?ivi koju je dobio u 1win kazinu. Trebalo mu je 3 meseca da ka?e da je pogre?io, haha.
Never mind, thanks for nothing. I hope Peter enjoys the chichiwa he got at the 1win Casino. It took him 3 months to say he was wrong, haha.
Dale igual gracias por nada. Espero que Peter Disfrute la chichiwa que le dieron en el Casino 1win, tardo 3 meses para decir que no tenía razón ajaja
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Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.
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