Uplatio sam ukupno 700 evra sa svojom kreditnom karticom bez uzimanja bonusa za sve stvarne gotovinske uloge. Imam 400 evra na saldu i odbijaju da mi dozvole da ih povu?em govore?i da ?ak i na depozite sa pravim novcem moraju biti ulo?eni 10 puta ?to je potpuna prevara i potpuno protiv po?tenja igara i protivzakonito. Pogledajte zakon o proviziji za kockanje: Igra?i imaju pravo da povuku novac sa svog depozita, uklju?uju?i i svoje dobitke, u bilo kom trenutku. Operateri moraju dozvoliti igra?ima da povuku sredstva sa svog depozitnog stanja i ne sme postojati rok koji to ograni?ava. Izmislili su uslov da la?no zadr?e novac i osiguraju da se on izgubi tako da klijenti ne mogu da povuku novac nazad ?ak i ako ne ?ele da igraju depozit. Ne mogu ovo da urade. Bilo koji kazino ili kladionica koju sam koristio uvek mi dozvoljava da unov?im svoj novac koji sam polo?io. Bonusi se ne vrede uzimati i oni su primenili zahteve za bonus kla?enje na stvarni novac ?to samo stvara ogroman nedostatak za igra?a i to je nezakonito. U potpunosti razumem kako funkcioni?e sistem bonusa i izbegavam ga po svaku cenu jer niko ne dobija 40 puta na besplatnom bonusu
I deposited a total of 700 euro with my credit card without taking any bonuses all real cash stakes. I have 400 euro in my balance and they are refusing to let me withdraw it saying even on real money deposits they have to be wagered 10 times which is a complete scam and totally against the fairness of gaming and is illegal. See the gambling commission law: Players are entitled to withdraw money from their deposit balance, including their winnings, at any time. Operators must allow players to withdraw funds from their deposit balance and there must be no term in place that restricts this. They have made up a term to falsely withhold money and ensure it gets lost so customers can't withdraw money back even if they don't want to play the deposit. They can't do this. Any Casino or bookmaker I have used always lets me cash out my money that I have deposited. Bonuses are not worth taking and they have applied bonus wagering requirements to actual money which just creates a huge disadvantage to the player and is illegal to do so. I fully understand how the bonus system works and I avoid it at all costs as nobody is winning 40 times on a free bonus
svaka igra u?ivo je montirana kori??enjem kompjuterske grafike nalepljene na kartice
svi koji su posve?eni ovoj industriji su pateti?ni grubi
ose?am simpatiju kako su ro?eni kao
every live game is rigged using computer graphics pasted on cards
everyone dedicated to this industry is pathetic crud
i feel sympathy how they were born as
Da, definitivno je do?lo do promene poslednjih godina, nekada sam pobe?ivao na live blackjack-u, ali to se vi?e ne de?ava. Gubite 10 ruku zaredom sve vreme, samo sportsko kla?enje je po?teno tr?i?te. Zavr?io sam sa igranjem samo ?elim da dobijem svoj novac od njih i nastavim dalje
Yeah, there has definitely been a change in recent years, I used to win on live blackjack but it doesn't happen anymore. Lose 10 hands in a row all the time, only sports betting is a fair marketplace. I'm done playing just want to get my money back from them and move on
Isto je i sa slotovima, nekada ste mogli da igrate prili?no nasumi?no. Sada mo?ete podesiti sopstveni rtp i pregovarati o dobicima sa proizvo?a?ima igara. ?teta za ta vremena, i ti si izgubio mnogo, ali bilo je slu?ajnosti. Sada samo algoritmi.
Same with slots, you used to be able to play fairly randomly. Now you can set your own rtp and negotiate winnings with game producers. It's a shame about those times, you also lost a lot but there was some randomness. Now only algorithms.
To samo ze slotami, kiedy? mo?na by?o pogra? w miar? losowo. Teraz mo?na samemu ustawia? rtp i negocjowa? wygrane z producentami gier. Szkoda tamtych czasów, te? si? przegra?o sporo ale by?a jaka? losowo??. Teraz tylko algorytmy.
Uplatio sam ukupno 700 evra sa svojom kreditnom karticom bez uzimanja bonusa za sve stvarne gotovinske uloge. Imam 400 evra na saldu i odbijaju da mi dozvole da ih povu?em govore?i da ?ak i na depozite sa pravim novcem moraju biti ulo?eni 10 puta ?to je potpuna prevara i potpuno protiv po?tenja igara i protivzakonito. Pogledajte zakon o proviziji za kockanje: Igra?i imaju pravo da povuku novac sa svog depozita, uklju?uju?i i svoje dobitke, u bilo kom trenutku. Operateri moraju dozvoliti igra?ima da povuku sredstva sa svog depozitnog stanja i ne sme postojati rok koji to ograni?ava. Izmislili su uslov da la?no zadr?e novac i osiguraju da se on izgubi tako da klijenti ne mogu da povuku novac nazad ?ak i ako ne ?ele da igraju depozit. Ne mogu ovo da urade. Bilo koji kazino ili kladionica koju sam koristio uvek mi dozvoljava da unov?im svoj novac koji sam polo?io. Bonusi se ne vrede uzimati i oni su primenili zahteve za bonus kla?enje na stvarni novac ?to samo stvara ogroman nedostatak za igra?a i to je nezakonito. U potpunosti razumem kako funkcioni?e sistem bonusa i izbegavam ga po svaku cenu jer niko ne dobija 40 puta na besplatnom bonusu
I deposited a total of 700 euro with my credit card without taking any bonuses all real cash stakes. I have 400 euro in my balance and they are refusing to let me withdraw it saying even on real money deposits they have to be wagered 10 times which is a complete scam and totally against the fairness of gaming and is illegal. See the gambling commission law: Players are entitled to withdraw money from their deposit balance, including their winnings, at any time. Operators must allow players to withdraw funds from their deposit balance and there must be no term in place that restricts this. They have made up a term to falsely withhold money and ensure it gets lost so customers can't withdraw money back even if they don't want to play the deposit. They can't do this. Any Casino or bookmaker I have used always lets me cash out my money that I have deposited. Bonuses are not worth taking and they have applied bonus wagering requirements to actual money which just creates a huge disadvantage to the player and is illegal to do so. I fully understand how the bonus system works and I avoid it at all costs as nobody is winning 40 times on a free bonus
Da li je u njihovim uslovima navedeno da stvarni depozit mora biti ulo?en 10k, zaista?
To je sigurno previ?e i nadam se da ?e na? tim za ?albe uskoro mo?i da vam pomogne.
Is it stated in their terms that the real deposit needs to be wagered 10x, really?
That is way too much, for sure, and I hope that our complaint team will be able to help you out soon.
da, to je po njihovim uslovima prevara. Dobio sam novac nazad nakon vikenda duge bitke ?albi. Ovo je problem sa neregulisanim kockarnicama, oni sami prave svoja pravila koja nisu dozvoljena u Evropi. Cela operacija je prevara, trebalo bi da se ugase, ali izgleda da su deo ve?e mre?e kazina. Sve na sajtu je la? i oni tvrde da je 10k kla?enje na depozite za ?protiv pranja novca i najbolje prakse" ni?ta osim prevara. Tu?io bih ih da mogu, ali tamo nema legitimnog posla da to uradim
yes, it’s in their terms which is a scam. I got my money back after a weekend long battle of complaints. This is the problem with unregulated casinos they make up their own rules which aren’t allowed in Europe. Whole operation is a scam they should be shutdown but seem to be part of a larger network of casinos. Everything on the site is a lie and they claim the 10x wagering on deposits is for "anti-money laundering and best practices" nothing but a scam I would sue them if I could but there’s no legitimate business there to do so
Drago mi je da si dobio novac.
Potpuno je normalno da se mora primeniti neka AML politika, ali ovo je previsoko, verujem, da biste morali da kladite svoj depozit 10k. Da je to pravilo bonusa, bilo bi razumljivije, sigurno.
E, sad si odlu?io da tamo vi?e ne igra?, pa ti je verovatno najbolje.
Samo imajte na umu, molim vas, da uvek pro?itate uslove pre deponovanja u onlajn kazinu. To zaista poma?e u spre?avanju budu?ih problema.
I am glad that you got the money.
It is completely normal that some AML policy has to be applied, but this is way too high, I belevie, to have to wager your deposit 10x. If it was a bonus rule, it would be more understandable, for sure.
Well, now you decided not to play there anymore, so it is probably the best for you.
Just keep in mind, please, to always read the terms before depositing in an online casino. It really helps prevent any future issues.
manipuli?e se i sportsko kla?enje
sports betting is also manipulated
Kakav je ovo kazino? To je odvratno. Oni znaju samo da kradu. Kako je mogu?e da vam dozvoljavaju da ulo?ite novac, a kada odete da podignete svoje nagrade ne dozvoljavaju vam? Kako odvratno.
What kind of casino is this? It's disgusting. They only know how to steal. How is it possible that they let you deposit money and when you go to withdraw your prizes they don't let you? How disgusting.
Que clase de casino es este, es un asco, solo saben robar, como es posible que lo dejen a uno ingresar dinero y cuando vas a retirar tus premios no dejen, que asco dan,
Zdravo, mo?ete li opisati ?ta se konkretno dogodilo u kazinu? Za?to ne ?ele da ti plate i koliko dugo ?eka?? Mo?ete li to malo vi?e da opi?ete da bih znao gde se nalazite u situaciji?
Hello, could you please describe what specifically happened in the casino? Why don't they want to pay your money and how long have you been waiting? Could you describe it a bit more so I know where you stand in the situation?
Desilo se slede?e, dao sam depozit na svoj ra?un za sportsko kla?enje, dao sam opkladu i dobio sam, kada je do?lo vreme da je povu?em tra?ili su od mene beskrajne zahteve koji nikada nisu postavljani na drugim platformama, da slikam sa adresom ku?e, da uzmem jednu sa paso?em, uradio sam to i nakon ?to sam to uradio rekao sam ne, da nisam mogao da ?ivim, ne mogu da iznajmim, nemam ugovor ne sti?u ra?uni za struju ili vodu na moje ime i zahtevaju da to moram da imam jer bez toga ne mogu da se povu?em, ovo mi deluje kao ogromna prevara, ovakav kazino ne bi trebalo da bude, daju osnovu, jer u trenutku uplate na ra?un ne tra?e sve ovo i jer ako tra?e u trenutku kada neko tra?i nagradu je tu?no
What happened is the following, I made a deposit to my account to make sports bets, I made a bet and I won it, when it was time to withdraw it they asked me for endless requirements that had never been asked on other platforms, that I take a photo with the address of the house, that I take one with my passport, I did it and after I did it I said no, that it was not possible, where I live I am not the one who rented therefore I do not have a housing contract, electricity or water bills do not arrive in my name and they demand that I have to have that because without that I cannot withdraw, this seems like a giant scam to me, a casino like this should not be, they give a base, because at the time of one making a deposit to the account they do not ask for all this and because if they ask for it at the time of one claiming a prize it is sad
Lo que paso es lo siguiente, realicé un abono a mi cuenta para realizar apuestas deportivas, realicé una apuesta y la gane, ala hora de retirarla me pidieron un sin fin de requisitos que nunca en otras plataformas las habían pedido, que me tomara una foto con la dirección de la casa, que me tomara una con el pasaporte, lo hice y luego de que lo hice que no que así no se podía, donde vivo yo no soy el que arrendó por lo tanto no tengo contrato de vivienda, no llegan recibos de luz o agua a mi nombre y ellos me exigen que si o si tengo que tener eso porque sin eso no puedo retirar, me parece una estafa gigante esto, un casino así no debería estar, dan peana, porque ala hora de uno hacer un abono al cuenta no piden todo esto y porque si lo piden ala hora de uno reclamar un premio es triste
Hvala na poja?njenju, bavili ste se samo sportom i od toga ste dobijali novac, zar ne? Na?alost, mi se ne bavimo ovom obla??u, tako da bi bilo te?ko da vam pomognem, ali mogu da vam pru?im neke linkove gde bi vam oni mogli pomo?i.
evo ih:
https://vvv.safebettingsites.com/complaints/
https://vvv.bookmakersreviev.com/sportsbook-complaint/
https://vvv.bookmakers.bet/submit-a-complaint/
https://vvv.top100bookmakers.com/contact-us/
https://vvv.sportsbookreviev.com/sportsbook-complaint/
U svakom slu?aju, kad smo kod verifikacije, a pretpostavljam da ste rekli kazinu da nemate ono ?to ?ele na svoje ime po?to to nije va?a ku?a, ?ta su vam rekli? Samo da ih nije briga i da to mora? imati? To je ne?to ?to bi trebalo da razumeju jer je to prili?no uobi?ajeno u dana?nje vreme. Zar nisu dali alternativu da biste mogli da proverite?
Thanks for the clarification, you only played sport and you got money from that, yes? Unfortunately we don't deal with this area so it would be difficult to help you but I can provide you with some links where they could assist you.
Here they are:
https://www.safebettingsites.com/complaints/
https://www.bookmakersreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
https://www.bookmakers.bet/submit-a-complaint/
https://www.top100bookmakers.com/contact-us/
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
Anyway, speaking of verification, and I assume you told the casino that you don't have what they want in your name since it's not your house, what did they tell you? Just that they don't care and you have to have it? This is something they should just be able to understand because it's quite common nowadays. Didn't they provide an alternative so you could verify?
Verifikacija sa njima je pakao da biste dali manje finansijskih informacija banci za hipoteku. Oni nisu ni?ta drugo do prevaranti. Oni odbijaju dokumente koji su savr?eno prihvatljivi za ve?inu kompanija. Veb lokacija je la?na za njihov odeljak za ?albe ako pratite vezu, njihova licenca je istekla sa Curacao igrama i oni nisu regulisani od strane njih, a ?askanje u?ivo i e-po?ta ne mogu da pru?e detalje o tome od koga su licencirani
The verification with them is hell to complete you would give less financial information to a bank for a mortgage. They are nothing but scammers. They reject documents that are perfectly acceptable with most companies. The website is a sham for their complaints section if you follow the link their license is expired with Cura?ao gaming and they aren’t regulated by them and live chat and email cannot provide details on who they are licensed by
Zdravo, ?ta ste konkretno morali da im isporu?ite? Koje dokumente su tra?ili od vas?
Imate li povla?enje koje ?ekate?
Hi, what specifically did you have to deliver to them? What documents did they require from you?
Do you have a withdrawal you are waiting for?
Dobro je znati. Hvala.
Sada ste krenuli dalje. zar ne? ??
Good to know. Thank you.
You have moved on now. Right? ??
Neverovatno su spori i lukavi, zadr?avali su mi podizanje novca govore?i da moram da ulo?im 1800 evra pre nego ?to mogu da povu?em, ?to je apsolutna prevara. Najve?a prevara kazina na koju sam ikada nai?ao. Imao sam dugu borbu tokom vikenda sa njima da isplate stanje na mom ra?unu, tako da su na kraju uradili, ali su mi zabranili nalog nakon toga. Oni su prevaranti koje nemaju licencu od strane curacao gaming-a, tako da ne moraju da odgovaraju nijednom regulatoru jer rade bez licence i ne mogu da daju informacije o tome sa kim su licencirani u svrhe spora. U su?tini, poslao sam im britanski zakon da igra?i imaju pravo da povuku svoj balans u bilo kom trenutku i da se ne mogu primeniti nikakvi uslovi da se to spre?i. Ka?u da su zahtevi za kla?enje od 10k za spre?avanje pranja novca i najbolje prakse, ?to je samo gomila sme?a tako da igra? nikada ne mo?e da podigne depozite ili balans. Svakodnevno kr?e zakon o igrama sa svojim nepredvi?enim uslovima i odredbama. Pravilna organizacija olo?a.
They are incredibly slow and dodgey they were withholding a withdrawal on me saying I needed to wager €1800 before I could withdraw which is an absolute scam. Biggest fraud of a casino I’ve ever come across I had weekend long battle with them to payout my account balance so in the end they did but banned my account after that. They are crooks they aren’t licensed by cura?ao gaming so they don’t have to accountable to any regulator because they operate without a a license and can’t provide the information as to who they are licensed with for dispute purposes. I basically sent them UK law that players have the right to withdraw their balance at any time and no terms can be applied to prevent this. They say that 10x wagering requirements are for anti money laundering and best practices which is just a load of rubbish so a player can never withdraw deposits or a balance. They break gaming law every day with their dodgey terms and conditions. Proper scum organisation.
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