Prijavio sam Revolut ombudsmanu jer je odbio da pomogne u transakcijama tre?im kompanijama. Imam dokaz da sam tra?io od Revoluta da mesecima blokira moj nalog zbog ozbiljnih problema sa kockanjem i oni su to odbili.
Ombudsman je stao na stranu Revoluta i rekao da sam ja kriv.
Zatim sam imao jo? jedan slu?aj kada sam dobio kontakt od trgovca da mi ka?e da ?e mi rado vratiti novac ako Revolut pokrene povra?aj sredstava, ali je Revolut odbio da mi pomogne. Ombudsman je ponovo stao na stranu Revoluta.
?vrsto verujem da je ova nit postala neverovatno korisna do sada spre?avanja bilo koga drugog da dobije dodatne povra?aje sredstava. Svi su toga sada svesni i veoma su mudri prema tome
I reported Revolut to the ombudsman for refusing to help with transactions to 3rd party companies. I have proof that I asked Revolut to block my account for months due to severe gambling issues and they refused.
The ombudsman sided with Revolut and said it was my own fault.
I then had another case where I received contact from a merchant to say that they were happy to give me a refund if Revolut initiated a chargeback but Revolut refused to help me. Again the ombudsman sided with Revolut.
I firmly believe that this thread has gone from being incredibly helpful to now stopping anyone else getting further refunds. Everyone is aware of this now and are very wise to it
Uputio sam SAR zahtev Velobetu i oni su ga odbili. Nisam siguran za?to misle da ih ne obavezuje PDPL/GDPR! Nadam se da ?u dobiti Santedine kontakt podatke.
I have made a SAR request to Velobet and they have refused it. Not sure why they think they aren’t bound by PDPL/GDPR! Hopefully I can get Santeda’s contact details.
Zdravo, to bi bilo sjajno Hvala….
Ne znam ni odakle da po?nem. Sledio sam savet sa ovog foruma misle?i da mogu da nadoknadim neke od svojih gubitaka kroz povra?aj sredstava, ali sada mi se ?ivot raspada.
Upravo sam dobio CIFAS marker za prevaru – ?Prevara prve strane: Prevara dobijena obmanom" – i potpuno sam sjeban. Ovo nije samo ?amar po zglobu. Pro?lo je 6 godina otkako je moje ime ozna?eno u svim bankama i finansijskim institucijama u UK.
Nema kreditnih kartica: sve moje kartice su blokirane, a moje prijave za nove se odbijaju.
Bez iznajmljivanja automobila: Slede?e nedelje imam slu?beno putovanje, a ne mogu ni da iznajmim auto. ?ta da ka?em svom ?efu? Da sam zavisnik od kockanja koji je poku?ao da prevari sistem i sada ne mogu da se nosim ni sa osnovnom radnom logistikom?
Krediti i hipoteke: Zaboravite. Planirao sam da kupim ku?u ove godine, a sada niko ne?e da me dira.
Nisam znao da ovo mo?e eskalirati tako brzo. Mislio sam da je to samo obi?an spor. CIFAS-u su dostavili sve moje podatke, dokaze o mojoj aktivnosti, pa ?ak i moju istoriju transakcija. Povezali su sve – IP adrese, geolokaciju, vremenske oznake – i sada sam potpuno na crnoj listi.
Najgori deo je poni?enje. Kako da ovo objasnim svom poslodavcu ili svojoj banci? ?Oh, izvini, ne mogu ?ak ni da iznajmim auto na svom slu?benom putu jer sam poku?ao da vratim depozite za kockanje i sada sam ozna?en kao prevarant"? To je za du?u.
Nau?io sam na te?i na?in da se ova of?or kazina ne igraju. Imaju timove posve?ene borbi protiv ovoga, a ja sam izgubio sve poku?avaju?i da ih pobedim.
Voleo bih da mogu da vratim vreme. Slede?i savete me je uni?tilo. Kazino Guru me je uni?tio.
I don’t even know where to start. I followed the advice from this forum thinking I could recover some of my losses through chargebacks, but now my life is falling apart.
I just got hit with a CIFAS fraud marker – 'First Party Fraud: Facility Obtained by Deception' – and I’m completely screwed. This isn’t just a slap on the wrist. It’s 6 years of having my name flagged across every UK bank and financial institution.
No credit cards: My cards are all blocked, and my applications for new ones are getting rejected.
No car rental: I have a business trip next week, and I can’t even rent a car. What am I supposed to tell my boss? That I’m a gambling addict who tried to cheat the system and now I can’t even handle basic work logistics?
Loans and mortgages: Forget it. I was planning to buy a house this year, and now no one will touch me.
I didn’t realize this could escalate so fast. I thought it was just a simple dispute. They submitted all my details, evidence of my activity, and even my transaction history to CIFAS. They linked everything – IP addresses, geolocation, timestamps – and now I’m completely blacklisted.
The worst part is the humiliation. How do I explain this to my employer or my bank? 'Oh, sorry, I can't even rent a car on my business trip because I tried to chargeback gambling deposits and now I’m flagged as a fraudster'? It’s soul-crushing.
I’ve learned the hard way that these offshore casinos are not playing around. They have teams dedicated to fighting this, and I lost everything trying to beat them.
I wish I could turn back time. Following the advice here has destroyed me. Casino Guru has destroyed me.
Moj jedini savet kao odgovor na ovo je da zatra?ite DSAR od kompanija za pra?enje prevara (CIFAS/Sinectics Solutions), saznajte ko je ta?no dodao marker.. zatim idite u tu kompaniju i zatra?ite DSAR, ulo?ite ?albu i osporite marker .
Na?alost, mislim da su ljudi ozna?eni zbog ?prijateljske prevare". Savetovao bih vam ako osporavate transakcije pod neta?nim MCC kodom ili zbog blokiranja kockanja na nalogu da tome pristupite direktno preko telefona i da sve jasno objasnite.
Ako osporavate transakcije jer roba nije primljena zbog nasumi?nih deskriptora, trebalo bi da se pridr?avate ovoga dok se istraga ne zavr?i. Ako vam je dat CIFAS marker samo za povra?aj sredstava, onda morate da sledite gorenavedeni savet.. nabavite DSAR od kompanije koja je izdala marker, ulo?ite im ?albu, prosledite ?albu ombudsmanu ako je potrebno i potra?ite pravni savet koji ga okru?uje kao advokat mo?e vam pomo?i da ga uklonite ako va?a ?alba ne bude uspe?na.
Mo?da bi bilo vredno aktivno poku?ati da stupite u kontakt sa uklju?enim trgovcima kako biste mogli da izgradite dokaz o poku?aju re?avanja, trgovci koji odgovore obi?no savetuju da pokrenete svoj problem sa bankom.. ovo bi izgradilo va?u odbranu .
My only advice in response to this is, request a DSAR from the fraud monitoring companies (CIFAS/Synectics Solutions), find out exactly who added the marker.. then go to that company and request a DSAR, make a complaint and challenge the marker.
Unfortunately, I think people are getting flagged for "friendly fraud".. I would advise if you are challenging transactions under incorrect MCC code or due to having gambling blocks on the account to approach this directly over the phone and to explain everything clearly.
If you are challenging transactions as goods not received due to the random descriptors then you should stick to this this until any investigation completes. If you have been given a CIFAS marker for simply making chargebacks then you need to pursue the advice above.. get a DSAR from the company that issued the marker, make a complaint with them, forward the complaint to the ombudsman if needed and seek legal advice surrounding it as a solicitor may be able to help you get it removed if your complaint is unsuccessful.
It might be worth actively attempting contact with the merchant(s) involved so that you can build up proof of attempting to resolve, the merchant(s) that respond usually advise you to raise your issue with your bank.. this would build your defence.
Za?to su ovo prijavili kao prevaru, koji je bio va? razlog za obradu povra?aja sredstava?
ako su dodali informacije kao ?to je va?a geografska lokacija, mislim da ste mo?da rekli da niste sami izvr?ili ove uplate, a onda bi mogli da vide da je to bilo sa va?e ku?ne adrese, na primer?
Why did they submit this as fraud, what was your reason for processing chargebacks?
if they added info such as your geo location, it makes me think you perhaps said you didn’t make these payments yourself, and then they could see it was from your home address for example?
To mora da je neko ko radi za kazina i poku?ava da te upla?i! ra?un napravljen tek danas
That has to be someone working for the casinos trying to scare you ! account only made today
Ne bi me iznenadilo, jedan post, novi nalog... Plus su rekli da su dostavili sve dokaze o aktivnostima, da je to ta?no, odeljenje za prevare/cifas bi pokupilo finansijske nepravilnosti od trgovaca itd... Nema detalja o njihov spor i na?in na koji je formulisan je sumnjiv
Wouldn't surprise me, one post, new account... Plus said they submitted all evidence of activity, if that was true the fraud/cifas department would have picked up on the financial irregularities from the merchants etc... No details on their dispute either and the way it's worded is suspicious
Pomislio sam to odmah ?im sam video!
I thought that right away as soon as I seen it !
Kada ga ponovo pro?itam, vidim ga. Govore?i o slu?benim putovanjima, iznajmljivanju automobila i tome ?to je 'slamljenje du?e' - sada dovodim u pitanje validnost tog posta.
U svakom slu?aju - a?uriranje: KuickBit tvrdi da nema moju istoriju, zatra?io sam DSAR i oni su odbili. Rekao sam im da im ne verujem i da imaju moje podatke i ?udno ?to sada obra?uju rekao je DSAR.
Upon re-reading it, I see it. Talking about business trips, car rentals and it being ‘soul-crushing’ - I’m questioning the validity of that post now.
Anyhow - update: QuickBit allege to have no history of me, I’ve requested a DSAR and they refused. I told them that I don’t believe them and that they DO have my details and weirdly enough, they are now processing said DSAR.
Tako?e, realize je ameri?ki pravopis realise.. tako da o?igledno nije britanski nalog.. Ra?unam da je defo kazina!
Also, realize is the American spelling of realise.. so clearly not a UK account.. I reckon it’s defo the casinos!
Definitivno post fokusiran na ?odvra?anje" bilo koga ko osporava pla?anja, bez detalja o njihovom sporu, novi nalog sa jednom objavom i jezikom/na?inom na koji je formulisan. Ulo?io bih novac u ove sumnjive kazina koji prate ovaj forum sigurno, prili?no sigurna da je Radka insinuirala da je forum ranije kontaktiran da ukloni ovu temu, tako da ne bi bilo iznena?uju?e da prave naloge za ovakve postove.
Definitely a post focused on "deterring" anyone disputing payments, no details of their dispute, new account with one post and the language/way it's worded. I'd put money on these shady casinos monitoring this forum for sure, pretty sure Radka insinuated that the forum had been contacted to take down this thread before, so them making accounts for posts like that wouldn't be surprising.
D?ejmsvatkinsonova objava je potpuna glupost
to je najgori poku?aj la?nog britanskog imena koji sam ikada video. Ovo su neki od kazino lopova koji su poku?ali da napi?u ne?to ?to "zvu?i ljudski" po?to sada vide da moraju da vrate novac. Taj tekst je formulisan na sme?an na?in da zvu?i kao jedan od onih glupih vladinih oglasa koji poku?avaju da odvrate ljude od razli?itih navika. Drago mi je ?to su ove pijavice kona?no dobile ono ?to zaslu?uju i sada su one te koje poku?avaju da spre?e dalje gubitke ovakvim pateti?nim poku?ajima.
jameswatkinson's post is complete bullst
that's the worst attempt at a fake British name I've ever seen. This is some of the casino crooks that tried writing something "human sounding" since now they see that they have to pay back money. That text is formulated in a funny way that makes it sound like one of those stupid government ads that try to dissuade people from different habits. I am glad that these leeches finally get what they deserve and now they're the ones trying to prevent further losses through such pathetic attempts.
Samo da budemo jasni - ja nisam kazino koji poku?ava da upla?i nekoga. Voleo bih da jesam. ?itam ovde mesecima. Sada mi zaista treba pomo? i savet jer sam o?ajan.
Just to be clear - I'm not a casino trying to scare anyone. I wish I was. I've been reading here for months. I genuinely need help and advice right now because I'm desperate.
Moj spor je bio sa Donbetom – izvr?io sam povra?aj sredstava za £495 preko Vise-a zbog onih nasumi?nih imena kompanija na mojoj izjavi. Roba nije primljena.
Ako mi ne?e? pomo?i, ne vidim nikakvu vrednost u onome ?to si rekao.
My dispute was with Donbet - did a chargeback for £495 through Wise because of those random company names on my statement. Goods not received.
If you are not going to help me, I don't see any value in what you have said.
Koje kompanije su kori??ene za transakcije? Koji MCC je kori??en? i kako je Vise pre?ao od vra?anja naplate do izdavanja CIFAS-a? Kako ste pristupili sporu, da li roba nije primljena itd?
What companies were used for the transactions? What MCC was used? and how did Wise go from charging back to issuing you a CIFAS? How did you approach the dispute, was it goods not received etc?
Hvala ?to zapravo poku?avate da pomognete umesto da me optu?ujete da sam jebeni kazino. Lako je svima da igraju detektiva dok mi se ?ivot raspada. Ve? poslao DSAR zahteve
Thanks for actually trying to help instead of accusing me of being a f*cking casino. Easy for everyone to play detective while my life's falling apart. Already sent the DSAR requests
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