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Zajedno sa na?om metodologijom recenzija, mi smo izra?unali Sigurnosni indeks kazina baziran na vi?e od 20 faktora, uklju?uju?i finansije, fer Uslove i pravila, prigovore igra?a i drugo. ?to je vi?i Sigurnosni indeks, ve?e su ?anse da vam va?i dobici budu ispla?eni.
The player from Greece deposited funds and participated in various promotions, winning significant amounts that he intended to withdraw. After passing verification, his withdrawals were canceled upon being told he violated bonus rules, although he believes the terms were unclear and did not actually break any rules.
Igra? iz Gr?ke je uplatio sredstva i u?estvovao u raznim promocijama, osvojiv?i zna?ajne iznose koje je nameravao da podigne. Nakon ?to je pro?ao verifikaciju, njegove isplate su otkazane nakon ?to mu je re?eno da je prekr?io pravila bonusa, iako smatra da su uslovi bili nejasni i da zapravo nije prekr?io nijedno pravilo.
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Zdravo, uplatio sam 47 evra i dobio bonus na prvi depozit, igrao sam i osvojio prvih 47 evra (ke?). Video sam na svom ra?unu dostupnih za isplatu 470 evra jer sam osvojio iznos gotovine i bonusa 47, otkazao sam bonus i izvr?io isplatu, zatim sam izvr?io drugi depozit od 20 evra i dobio bonus na drugi depozit, desila se potpuno ista stvar, osvojio sam prvih 20 evra. Video sam dostupnih za isplatu 150 evra i otkazao sam da bih izvr?io isplatu. Na tre?i depozit sam koristio gotovinu i bonus sredstva i ostalo mi je 0,01 bonus sredstava i 620 sa 2 isplate. Pro?ao sam verifikaciju, posle 3 dana su mi otkazali isplate i tra?ili selfi, rekao sam ok, ponovo sam izvr?io isplatu i onda su mi rekli da sam prekr?io pravila u vezi sa bonusima. Prosledili su mi termin koji o?igledno ne odgovara onome ?to su mi rekli, tako?e sam pitao u Chat GPT-u i re?eno je da nije jasno u vezi sa ovim terminom i da ako nisam iskoristio nikakva bonus sredstva, trebalo je da budem ispla?en. Molim vas, proverite i pomozite.
Hello, I made a deposit 47euros and received the 1st deposit bonus , I played and won at the first 47euros (cash money) I saw at my account avaliable for withdrawal 470 euros because I won at my cash amount and bonus money 47, I canceled the bonus and made a withdrawal, then I made 2nd deposit 20euros and I received the 2nd deposit bonus, exactly the same thing happened, I won on my first 20 euros I saw avaliable for withdrawal 150 euros and I cancel in order to withdrawal, 3rd deposit i used cash and bonus funds and I had 0,01 bonus funds left and 620 with 2 withdrawals , I pass the verification, after 3 days they cancel my withdrawals and ask for selfie I say ok , I made my withdrawal again and then they told me I broke the rules regarding bonuses. They forward me a term that is clearly not saying what they told me , I also asked chat gpt and it said that it is not clear on this term and if I did not use any bonus funds at the bonus I should have been paid . Pls check and help
Hvala vam ?to ste podneli ?albu. ?ao mi je ?to sam ?uo za negativno iskustvo koje ste do?iveli sa GreatSpin kazinom.
Da biste stekli potpuniju sliku situacije, bio bih vam zahvalan ako biste mogli da odgovorite na slede?a pitanja:
Mo?ete li, molim vas, proslediti termin na koji se pozivate?
Da li ste ispunili uslove kla?enja za ovaj bonus prema pravilima kazina?
23.11. Uslov kla?enja na GreatSpin-u (osim ako nije druga?ije nazna?eno) je 35 puta ve?i od po?etnog iznosa depozita i bonusa primljenog pre nego ?to se sredstva mogu isplatiti. Uslov kla?enja dobitaka od besplatnih okretaja bez depozita i bonusa bez depozita je 40 puta ve?i. Za sportske bonuse pogledajte Uslove i odredbe za svaki bonus.
Da li ste upoznati sa politikom otkazivanja bonusa u ovom kazinu?
23.6. Igra? mo?e otkazati aktivni bonus u bilo kom trenutku iz odeljka Profil ili tako ?to ?e nas kontaktirati putem ?askanja u?ivo ili e-po?te na [email protected] Otkazivanjem bonusa, ceo iznos na bonus stanju i svi dobici akumulirani tokom bonus perioda tako?e ?e biti poni?teni.
Nadam se da ?emo mo?i da vam pomognemo da re?ite ovaj problem ?to je pre mogu?e. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Katarina
Dear andreaspagomenos,
Thank you for submitting your complaint. I regret to learn of the negative experience you encountered with GreatSpin Casino.
To gain a comprehensive understanding of the situation, I would appreciate it if you could answer the following questions:
Could you please forward the term you are referring to?
Have you finished the wagering requirements of this bonus as per casino rules?
23.11. The wagering requirement at GreatSpin (unless otherwise specified) is 35 times the initial amount of the deposit and bonus received before funds can be withdrawn. The wagering requirement of winnings from non-deposit free spins and non-deposit bonuses is 40 times. For Sport Bonuses refer to each bonus specific T&C.
Are you aware of the bonus cancelation policy in this casino?
23.6. A player may cancel an active bonus at any time from the Profile section or by contacting us via Live Chat or email at [email protected]. By canceling the bonus, the whole amount in the Bonus balance and all winnings accumulated during the bonus period will also be voided.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Katarina
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Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Me?utim, ?eleo bih da izrazim zabrinutost u vezi sa jasno?om va?eg sistema i uslova bonusa. U vreme mog poku?aja isplate, iznos je bio jasno prikazan u odeljku ?Dostupno za isplatu" i bio je ozna?en kao gotovina, jasno odvojen od bonus stanja. Ova prezentacija je sna?no ukazivala na to da sredstva nisu podlo?na uslovima kla?enja i da se zaista mogu isplatiti.
Pored toga, ?eleo bih da istaknem da u mom po?etnom zahtevu nije bilo nikakvog pomena o bilo kakvim ograni?enjima bonusa ili riziku od gubitka. Kada sam kontaktirao va? ?askanje u?ivo, jednostavno sam obave?ten da je potreban dodatni korak verifikacije. Odmah sam odgovorio da ?u ?to pre poslati tra?enu dokumentaciju. ?udno, samo dva sata kasnije, sredstva su nestala sa mog ra?una bez ikakvog upozorenja ili obja?njenja.
?tavi?e, u vezi sa va?om Politikom otkazivanja bonusa (Odeljak 23.6), moram naglasiti da ona ne navodi jasno da bi otkazivanje aktivnog bonusa rezultiralo gubitkom pravih nov?anih dobitaka generisanih od deponovanih sredstava. Tekst se odnosi samo na stanje bonusa i ?dobitke akumulirane tokom bonus perioda", ?to se lako mo?e protuma?iti kao da se isklju?ivo odnosi na dobitke ostvarene bonusom.
S obzirom na ove ta?ke - obmanjuju?i prikaz sredstava koja se mogu isplatiti, nedostatak transparentnosti u po?etnoj komunikaciji i dvosmislen jezik va?ih Uslova.
Verujem da je ova situacija duboko nepravedna i da zaslu?uje dalju reviziju. Ljubazno molim za temeljnu istragu i ponovno razmatranje odluke o poni?tenju mojih sredstava, koja su, na osnovu svih predstavljenih informacija, izgledala validno i legitimno se mogu isplatiti.
Hvala vam na pa?nji posve?enoj ovom pitanju.
Radujem se va?em odgovoru.
Thank you for your response.
However, I would like to raise a concern regarding the clarity of your system and bonus terms. At the time of my withdrawal attempt, the amount was clearly displayed under the "Available for Withdrawal" section and was marked as Cash, distinctly separated from the Bonus Balance. This presentation strongly indicated that the funds were not subject to wagering requirements and were indeed withdrawable.
Additionally, I would like to highlight that in my initial request, there was no mention whatsoever of any bonus restrictions or risk of forfeiture. When I contacted your Live Chat, I was simply informed that an extra verification step was required. I immediately responded that I would submit the requested documentation as soon as possible. Strangely, only two hours later, the funds had disappeared from my account without any warning or explanation.
Moreover, regarding your Bonus Cancelation Policy (Section 23.6), I must emphasize that it does not clearly state that canceling an active bonus would result in the loss of real cash winnings generated from deposited funds. The text refers only to the Bonus Balance and "winnings accumulated during the bonus period," which can easily be interpreted as referring strictly to bonus-derived gains.
Given these points—the misleading display of withdrawable funds, the lack of transparency in initial communication, and the ambiguous language of your Terms.
I believe this situation is deeply unfair and deserves further review. I kindly request a thorough investigation and reconsideration of the decision to void my funds, which, based on all presented information, appeared to be valid and legitimately withdrawable.
Da bismo bolje razjasnili situaciju, molim vas da odgovorite na slede?a pitanja?
Da li ste, molim vas, komunicirali sa predstavnikom kazina o uslovima i odredbama bonusa?
Da li ste imali dalju komunikaciju sa kazinom u vezi sa ovim problemom? Mo?ete li to podeliti sa mnom ovde u temi ili putem e-po?te. [email protected]
Da li imate snimke ekrana koji ilustruju sredstva prikazana pod statusom ?Dostupno za povla?enje"?
Radujem se va?em odgovoru,
Katarina
Dear andreaspagomenos,
thank you for your message and information provided.
In order to shed more light to the situation, could you please answer the following questions?
Have you been communicating the bonus terms and conditions with the casino representative, please?
Have you had any further communication with the casino concerning this issue? Could you please share it with me here in the thread or via email [email protected]
Do you have any screenshots that illustrate the funds reflected under the "Available for Withdrawal" status?
Looking forward to your reply,
Katarina
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Zdravo,
Ve? sam vi?e puta kontaktirao tim za podr?ku u vezi sa mojim povla?enjem sredstava.
Prvi put je sve pro?lo glatko u vezi sa procesom verifikacije.
Drugi put, kada je moje povla?enje otkazano, obave?ten sam da je potreban jo? jedan dokument za verifikaciju. U potpunosti sam sara?ivao i obavestio ih da ?u poslati ?to pre.
Me?utim, tre?i put kada sam razgovarao sa njima bilo je kada mi je povla?enje ponovo otkazano, i ovog puta mi je re?eno da je to zbog uslova vezanih za bonus. Objasnio sam da sam koristio svoja deponovana sredstva, a ne bonus novac, i da se iznos koji sam podigao prikazuje kao dostupan za povla?enje na mom ra?unu — ne?to ?to se mo?e potvrditi putem njihovog sistema. Tako?e sam pomenuo da je prilikom prvog otkazivanja navedeni razlog bio samo potreba za jo? jednim dokumentom i da u to vreme nije bilo pomena ni o kakvom problemu vezanom za bonus.
Zatim sam upu?en na konkretan termin u vezi sa uslovima kla?enja, isti onaj koji ste pomenuli gore. Poku?ao sam da objasnim da ovaj termin nije jasno formulisan. Iako sam pobedio koriste?i pravi novac, a sistem mi je dozvolio da zahtevam isplatu — po?to su sredstva jasno bila u odeljku ?gotovina", a iznos bonusa je bio prikazan odvojeno — kasnije mi je re?eno da ipak moram da ispunim uslove kla?enja. Ovo me je zbunilo, jer bonus uop?te nisam koristio, ostao je netaknut na mom nalogu.
Balans je bio na primer
Gotovina 420 dolara
Iznos bonusa 50$ (neiskori??eno)
Ovo je moja glavna briga: ako su sredstva bila ograni?ena uslovima bonusa, za?to mi je sistem dozvolio da nastavim sa isplatom? Ako nisam ispunjavao uslove za isplatu, sistem je trebalo da spre?i zahtev u po?etku. Ili da me bar obavesti ?ta ?e se desiti ako otka?ete bonus.
Ako je potrebno, mogu da obezbedim kompletnu istoriju ?askanja, ili je mogu pregledati interno ako mo?ete da ih ubedite da provere ovu stvar.
Ljubazno molim za temeljan pregled ovog pitanja, jer verujem da je do?lo do nesporazuma u ??tuma?enju ili primeni uslova bonusa i da je to na neki na?in obmanjuju?e.
Imam ovu fotografiju na kojoj se zahtevi pojavljuju.
Hvala vam na vremenu i podr?ci.
Hello,
I have already contacted the support team multiple times regarding my withdrawal.
The first time, everything went smoothly concerning the verification process.
The second time, when my withdrawal was canceled, I was informed that one additional document was needed for verification. I fully cooperated and informed them I will sent ASAP.
However, the third time i spoke to them was when my withdrawal was canceled once more, and this time I was told it was due to bonus-related terms. I explained that I had used my deposited funds, not bonus money, and the amount I withdrew was showing as available for withdrawal in my account — something that can be confirmed through their system. I also mentioned that during the first cancellation, the reason given was only the need for one more document, and there was no mention of any bonus-related issue at that time.
I was then referred to a specific term regarding wagering requirements the same one you forwarded above. I tried to explain that this term is not clearly worded. Even though I had won using real money, and the system allowed me to request a withdrawal — as the funds were clearly in the "cash" section and the bonus amount was shown separately — I was later told that I still had to complete the wagering requirements. This was confusing to me, as I had not used the bonus at all, it remained untouched in my account.
The balance was for example
Cash 420$
Bonus amount 50$ (untouched/unused)
This is my main concern: if the funds were restricted by bonus terms, why did the system allow me to proceed with the withdrawal? If I was not eligible to withdraw, the system should have prevented the request in the first place Or at least inform me what is about to happened if you cancel the bonus.
If needed, I can provide the full chat history, or they may review it internally if you can persuade to check this matter.
I kindly ask for a thorough review of this issue, as I believe there has been a misunderstanding in the interpretation or application of the bonus terms and it is kind of misleading.
Radi jasno?e u vezi sa ovim pitanjem, molim vas da potvrdite da li ste primili bilo kakve dobitke od gorepomenutih bonusa (470€ i 150€)?
Kada ste po?eli da igrate sa pravim novcem, da li ste videli neki napredak u kla?enju na ekranu, molim vas?
Mo?ete li, molim vas, zatra?iti istoriju igranja (u Eksel formatu) od kazina i proslediti mi je? Moja imejl adresa je [email protected] .
Radujem se va?em odgovoru,
Katarina
Dear andreaspagomenos,
thank you for your email.
To ensure clarity regarding this matter, could you please confirm whether you have received any winnings derived from the aforementioned bonuses (€470 and €150)?
When you started your gaming with the real money, have you seen any wagering progress on the screen, please?
Could you please request a gaming history (in Excel format) from casino and forward it to me? My email is [email protected].
Looking forward to your reply,
Katarina
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Zdravo, odgovor na oba pitanja je ne. Kada sam otkazao, ostao mi je samo bonus novac, onda sam igrao jo? malo i zatra?io prvo povla?enje, sve je bilo u redu, verifikacija i komunikacija.. onda sam otkazao svoj w/di, pitali su me za?to, tra?ili su mi selfi, rekao sam u redu, zahtevajte povla?enje, sve zajedno 620, posle 2-3 sata je otkazano i moja sredstva su oduzeta na 50 evra koliko mi je tamo ostalo od tada.
Tra?i?u dokument, ali ne mislim da ?e mi i?ta poslati, samo ?e odlagati, odlagati, odlagati.
Hello, no to both 2 questions, when I canceled only the bonus money left then I played some more and request the first withdrawal, all good , verification and communication.. then canceled my w/d i asked why, they asked a selfie I'd I said okay, request my withdrawal all together 620, after 2-3 hours it was canceled and my funds deducted to 50euros that I have left there since.
I will ask for the document but I don't think they send anything to me they will just delay delay delay.
Produ?avamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pru?ite asistenciju, mi ?emo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear andreaspagomenos,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
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Poslao sam vam zahtev na va?u e-po?tu, rekli su da bi moglo potrajati mesec dana ili vi?e da odgovore na istoriju ?askanja i kazina.
Ve? sam ti prosledio svoj razgovor u kojem sam pitao te dokumente.
I have send you at your email the request, they said it might take a month or more to respond to chat and casino history .
I have already forwarded you my chat of asking those docs.
Hvala vam puno, andreaspagomenos, na saradnji. Sada ?u va?u ?albu proslediti kolegi Peteru ( [email protected] ) koji ?e vam biti na usluzi. ?elim vam puno sre?e i nadam se da ?e problem biti re?en na va?e zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budu?nosti.
Thank you very much, andreaspagomenos, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter ([email protected]) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Hvala andreaspagomenos-u ?to si nam pru?io sve informacije. Nadam se da ?emo zajedno uspeti da re?imo ovaj problem.
Sada bih ?eleo da zamolim GreatSpin Casino za pomo? u re?avanju ove ?albe. ?eleli bismo da znamo za?to su igra?evi dobici oduzeti i ?ta mo?emo da uradimo da pomognemo u re?avanju ovog problema.
Hvala vam!
Hello there,
Thank you andreaspagomenos for providing us with all the information. I hope we'll be able to resolve this issue together.
I would now like to ask GreatSpin Casino for their help in resolving this complaint. We would like to know why the player's winnings were confiscated and what we can do to help resolve this issue.
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritu?bu. Produ?ujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predvi?enom roku, prigovo ?emo zatvoriti kao "nere?en", ?to mo?e negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
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