Zdravo Branislave. Kao ?to zna?, moj nalog na Heatscasino-u nije aktivan, tako da nemam mogu?nost da mu pristupim i pogledam istoriju uplata i isplata kao referentnu ta?ku.
Va?e prvo pitanje.
Mo?ete li, molim vas, objasniti koja je bila svrha va?e registracije i igranja u kazinu?
Da igram onlajn kazino igre i u?ivam u kockanju. Smem li da pitam, da li implicirate zlokobni motiv u moje ime? Ne sla?em se sa idejom da sam vi?e puta upla?ivao i odmah podizao novac. Mo?e li Heatscasino da navede neke primere i da to kvantifikuje? Da pojasnim, ?lan sam Heatscasino-a mesecima i tokom tog vremena sam verovatno uplatio vi?e od 30 depozita i ulo?io 100.000 dolara. Da, mo?da je bilo jednom ili dva puta kada sam uplatio depozit, ali sam onda odlu?io da ne uplatim i umesto toga podigao svoj depozit. Desio se jedan put, u prvoj ili drugoj nedelji aprila, kada sam uplatio depozit za bonus na depozit, agent u?ivo je prestao da odgovara i nije dodao bonus mom depozitu - stoga sam se predomislio o igranju i povukao svoj depozit s obzirom da dogovoreni bonus nije bio dodat u to vreme.
Me?utim, insinuirati da sam imao ponavljaju?i obrazac pona?anja stalnog upla?ivanja i odmahg ispla?ivanja je neta?no - moja istorija kla?enja bi to pokazala, i ne sla?em se sa ovom tvrdnjom. Koliko puta se tvrdi da sam vi?e puta upla?ivao i ispla?ivao novac u kratkom vremenskom periodu?
Va?e drugo pitanje
Da li ste svesni ?injenice da to kr?i Uslove kori??enja kazina (pravila protiv pranja novca)?
Ne, iskreno, nisam bio svestan. Iako to mogu da vidim u odeljku za spre?avanje pranja novca na njihovoj veb stranici. Me?utim, tvrdio bih da za?titne mere protiv pranja novca u Heatscasino-u nisu posebno robusne. Proces isplate kriptovaluta u Heatscasino-u je trenutan, ?im unesete adresu za isplatu u blagajnu i podnesete zahtev za isplatu, novac je u va?em nov?aniku, bez obzira na to koliko puta ga okrenete - zahtevi za isplatu se rutinski ne pregledaju.
U svakom drugom onlajn kazinu u kojem sam igrao, isplata ?e biti pregledana pre nego ?to bude odobrena i odbi?e je ako nije ispunjen minimalni zahtev za kla?enje (npr. 3x). Za?to Heatscasino to ne radi? Umesto toga, oni imaju predatorsku politiku protiv pranja novca koja ka?e da ?e vam konfiskovati novac. Kad smo ve? kod njihove politike protiv pranja novca, jesi li je pro?itao, Branislave? Deluje veoma predatorski.
?Ako ste igra? koji igra u Heats Casino-u ili bilo kom kazinu pod istim licencnim ki?obranom, morate ulo?iti svoja upla?ena sredstva najmanje 3 puta pre povla?enja. Ako uplatite sredstva i poku?ate da povu?ete ta upla?ena sredstva bez zna?ajne razlike u va?em stanju (najmanje 50% razlike u stanju od depozita), ovo mo?e i bi?e ozna?eno kao pranje novca, a va?a sredstva ?e biti konfiskovana."
Jesi li pro?itao/la poslednji red? Recimo da uplatim 10.000 dolara, i da napravim 100.000 dolara u kla?enju, i time izgubim 4.000 dolara i odlu?im da podignem preostalih 6.000 dolara. Prema njihovoj politici, zadr?avaju pravo da konfiskuju tih 6.000 dolara, jer bi promena stanja bila manja od 50%. To je neverovatno!
Va?e tre?e pitanje
Kazino vas je obavestio o svom stavu i da ne mo?ete igrati na takav na?in, odmah upla?ivati i ispla?ivati novac, mnogo ranije nego ?to vam je nalog poslednji put blokiran, iz istog razloga, tako da ste o tome obave?teni pre va?ih poslednjih uplata, ali ste ipak nastavili sa tim. Za?to?
Ne sla?em se sa ovim, kada me je kazino ranije obavestio o ovome? Tako?e, moj poslednji depozit, onaj oko kojeg se ovaj spor vodi. Nisam ga podigao, nisam ?ak ni mogao da poku?am da ga podignem jer je odeljak za podizanje na mom nalogu bio blokiran. Da, ?eleo sam da ga podignem, ali opet nisam mogao. Dakle, u vezi sa ovim depozitom od 50 dolara koji sam uplatio, kako sam ta?no prekr?io politiku protiv pranja novca u ovoj prilici? Da, depozit mora biti ulo?en x3 pre nego ?to se mo?e izvr?iti podizanje - me?utim, poenta je da podizanje jo? nije izvr?eno, tako da nisam mogao da prekr?im politiku u ovoj konkretnoj prilici/depozitu.
Va?e ?etvrto pitanje
Da li dobro razumem da niste pove?ali svoj saldo igranjem, ve? uplatom jo? jednog depozita u kazino?
Ne razumem ovo pitanje. Moj poslednji depozit je bio pribli?no ekvivalentan 50 dolara u eterijumu u to vreme, i ja sam se apsolutno kladio sa ovim novcem gde se stanje na kraju pove?alo na 72 dolara, da li ka?ete da sam umesto toga izvr?io dodatne depozite da bih pove?ao svoje stanje na 72 dolara? Ako je to slu?aj, onda je heatscasino falsifikovao moju istoriju igranja/transakcija i voleo bih da vidim kopiju onoga ?to su vam poslali.
Nadam se da sam svojim odgovorima odgovorio na va?a pitanja. Uzgred, imam snimke ekrana drugih sumnjivih pona?anja sa Heatscasino-a gde menjaju uslove bonusa usred ponude, rado ?u vam ih poslati.
U su?tini, sve ?to tra?im je da mi se vrati depozit.
Hi Branislav. As you are aware my account on heatscasino is not active so I do not have the benefit of accessing my account and looking at my deposit and withdrawal history as a reference point.
Your first question.
can you please explain what the purpose of your registration and play at the casino was?
To play online casino games, and enjoy some gambling. May I ask, are you implying a sinister motive on my behalf? I disagree with the notion that I repeatedly deposited and withdrew straight away. Can heatscasino point to some examples, and quantify this? To elaborate, I have been a member of heatscasino for months, and over that time I had probably made >30 deposits, and made $100000 of wagers. Yes, there may have been one or two times where I had deposited, but then decided against and instead withdraw my deposit. There is one time, In the first or second week of April where I had made a deposit, for a deposit bonus, the live agent had stopped responding, and did not add the bonus to my deposit - I therefore changed my mind on playing and withdrew my deposit given the agreed bonus had not been added at that time.
However to insinuate that I had a repeated pattern of behavior of constantly depositing and immediately withdrawing is incorrect - my wager history would demonstrate that, and I disagree with this notion. How many times am I alleged to have repeatedly deposited and withdrawn within a short space of time?
Your second question
Are you aware of the fact that it breaches the casino's Terms and Conditions (AML rules)?
No, to be honest I wasn't aware. Although I can see this on the AML section of their website. However I would contend that heatscasino AML safeguards are not particularly robust. Heatscasino cryptocurrency withdrawal process is instantaneous, as soon as you place your withdrawal address in the cashier and submit the withdrawal request, the money is in your wallet, regardless of how many times you turn it over - withdrawal requests aren't routinely reviewed.
Every other online casino I have played at will have a withdrawal reviewed prior to being granted, and will reject the withdrawal if the minimum wagering requirement isn't met (i.e. 3x). Why don't heatscasino do this? Instead they have a predatory AML policy that states they will confiscate your money. Whilst we are on their AML policy, have you read it Branislav? It comes across very predatory.
"If you are a player playing on Heats Casino or any casino under the same licensing umbrella, you must wager your deposited funds at least 3x before withdrawal. If you deposit funds, and attempt to withdraw those deposited funds without any significant difference in your balance (at least 50% balance differential from deposit), this can and will be flagged as money laundering, and your funds will be confiscated. "
Have you read that last line? Say If I were to deposit $10000, and I go onto make $1000000 in wagering, and through this lose $4000 and decide to withdraw my remaining $6000. As per their policy they reserve the right to confiscate that $6000, as the change in balance would be less than 50%. That's incredible!
Your third question
The casino informed you about their position and that you cannot play in such a way, depositing and withdrawing right away, much earlier than your account was blocked for the last time, due to the same reason, so you were informed about it before your last deposits, but you continued with that anyway. Why?
I disagree with this, when did the casino inform me of this previously? Also, my final deposit, the one that this dispute is about. I didn't withdraw it, I wasn't even able to try and withdraw it as the withdrawal section on my account was blocked off. Yes, I wanted to withdraw it, however again I wasn't able to. So in regards to this $50 deposit I made, how did I exactly breach the AML policy on this occasion? Yes a deposit must be wagered x3 before a withdrawal could be made - however the point is a withdrawal wasn't made yet, so I couldn't have breached the policy on this specific occasion/deposit.
Your fourth question
Do I understand correctly that you did not increase your balance by playing but rather by making another deposit to the casino?
I don't understand this question. My final deposit was approximately the equivalent of $50 in ethereum at the time, and I did absolutely wager with this money where the balance eventually increased to $72, are you saying that instead I made further deposits to increase my balance to $72? If that's the case then heatscasino have fabricated my play/transaction history, and I would love to see the copy of what they sent you.
I hope my responses have addressed your questions. As an aside I have screenshots of other dubious behavior from heatscasino where they change bonus terms mid offer, I am happy to send this to you.
Essentially all I'm looking for is my deposit to be returned.
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