Hej Branislav. Som du vet ?r mitt konto p? heatscasino inte aktivt, s? jag har inte m?jlighet att komma ?t mitt konto och titta p? min ins?ttnings- och uttagshistorik som referens.
Din f?rsta fr?ga.
Kan du sn?lla f?rklara vad syftet med din registrering och ditt spelande p? casinot var?
Att spela onlinekasinospel och njuta av lite hasardspel. F?r jag fr?ga, antyder du ett ondskefullt motiv f?r min r?kning? Jag h?ller inte med om att jag upprepade g?nger satte in och tog ut pengar direkt. Kan heatscasino peka p? n?gra exempel och kvantifiera detta? F?r att utveckla, jag har varit medlem p? heatscasino i m?nader, och under den tiden har jag f?rmodligen gjort >30 ins?ttningar och satsat 100 000 dollar. Ja, det kan ha funnits ett eller tv? tillf?llen d? jag satte in pengar, men sedan best?mde mig emot och ist?llet tog ut min ins?ttning. Det fanns ett tillf?lle, under den f?rsta eller andra veckan i april, d? jag gjorde en ins?ttning f?r en ins?ttningsbonus, men liveagenten hade slutat svara och inte lagt till bonusen till min ins?ttning - jag ?ndrade mig d?rf?r om att spela och tog ut min ins?ttning eftersom den ?verenskomna bonusen inte hade lagts till vid den tidpunkten.
Att antyda att jag hade ett upprepat beteendem?nster d?r jag st?ndigt satte in och omedelbart tog ut pengar ?r dock felaktigt – min spelhistorik skulle visa det, och jag h?ller inte med om den uppfattningen. Hur m?nga g?nger p?st?s jag ha upprepade g?nger satt in och tagit ut pengar inom en kort tidsperiod?
Din andra fr?ga
?r du medveten om att det bryter mot casinots villkor (AML-regler)?
Nej, ?rligt talat var jag inte medveten om det. ?ven om jag kan se detta i AML-sektionen p? deras webbplats. Jag skulle dock h?vda att heatscasinos AML-skydd inte ?r s?rskilt robusta. Heatscasinos kryptovalutauttagsprocess ?r omedelbar, s? fort du anger din uttagsadress i kassan och skickar in uttagsbeg?ran finns pengarna i din pl?nbok, oavsett hur m?nga g?nger du oms?tter dem - uttagsbeg?randen granskas inte rutinm?ssigt.
Alla andra onlinecasinon jag har spelat p? granskar uttag innan de beviljas, och avvisar uttaget om minimikravet p? oms?ttning inte uppfylls (dvs. 3x). Varf?r g?r inte heatscasino detta? Ist?llet har de en policy mot penningtv?tt som syftar till att konfiskera dina pengar. Med tanke p? deras policy mot penningtv?tt, har du l?st den, Branislav? Den verkar v?ldigt pedant.
"Om du ?r en spelare som spelar p? Heats Casino eller n?got annat casino under samma licensparaply m?ste du oms?tta dina insatta pengar minst 3 g?nger innan du g?r ett uttag. Om du s?tter in pengar och f?rs?ker ta ut dessa insatta pengar utan n?gon betydande skillnad i ditt saldo (minst 50 % skillnad fr?n ins?ttningen) kan och kommer detta att flaggas som penningtv?tt, och dina pengar kommer att konfiskeras."
Har du l?st den sista raden? S?g om jag skulle s?tta in 10 000 dollar och sedan tj?na 1 000 000 dollar i oms?ttning, och genom detta f?rlorar 4 000 dollar och v?ljer att ta ut mina ?terst?ende 6 000 dollar. Enligt deras policy f?rbeh?ller de sig r?tten att konfiskera de 6 000 dollarna, eftersom f?r?ndringen i saldot skulle vara mindre ?n 50 %. Det ?r otroligt!
Din tredje fr?ga
Kasinot informerade dig om sin st?ndpunkt och att du inte kan spela p? det s?ttet, s?tta in och ta ut pengar direkt, mycket tidigare ?n att ditt konto blockerades f?r sista g?ngen, av samma anledning, s? du informerades om det f?re dina senaste ins?ttningar, men du fortsatte med det ?nd?. Varf?r?
Jag h?ller inte med om detta, n?r informerade casinot mig om detta tidigare? ?ven min sista ins?ttning, den som den h?r tvisten handlar om. Jag tog inte ut den, jag kunde inte ens f?rs?ka ta ut den eftersom uttagssektionen p? mitt konto var blockerad. Ja, jag ville ta ut den, men ?terigen kunde jag inte. S? ang?ende den h?r ins?ttningen p? 50 dollar jag gjorde, hur br?t jag exakt mot AML-policyn vid det h?r tillf?llet? Ja, en ins?ttning m?ste oms?ttas x3 innan ett uttag kan g?ras - men po?ngen ?r att ett uttag inte gjordes ?n, s? jag kunde inte ha brutit mot policyn vid det h?r specifika tillf?llet/ins?ttningen.
Din fj?rde fr?ga
F?rst?r jag r?tt att du inte ?kade ditt saldo genom att spela utan snarare genom att g?ra ytterligare en ins?ttning till casinot?
Jag f?rst?r inte den h?r fr?gan. Min sista ins?ttning var ungef?r motsvarande 50 dollar i ethereum vid den tidpunkten, och jag satsade absolut med dessa pengar d?r saldot s? sm?ningom ?kade till 72 dollar. Menar du att jag ist?llet gjorde ytterligare ins?ttningar f?r att ?ka mitt saldo till 72 dollar? Om s? ?r fallet har heatscasino fabricerat min spel-/transaktionshistorik, och jag skulle g?rna vilja se en kopia av vad de skickade till dig.
Jag hoppas att mina svar har besvarat dina fr?gor. Som en parantes har jag sk?rmdumpar p? annat tvivelaktigt beteende fr?n heatscasino d?r de ?ndrar bonusvillkoren mitt i erbjudandet, jag skickar g?rna dessa till dig.
I princip ?r allt jag vill ha tillbaka min deposition.
Hi Branislav. As you are aware my account on heatscasino is not active so I do not have the benefit of accessing my account and looking at my deposit and withdrawal history as a reference point.
Your first question.
can you please explain what the purpose of your registration and play at the casino was?
To play online casino games, and enjoy some gambling. May I ask, are you implying a sinister motive on my behalf? I disagree with the notion that I repeatedly deposited and withdrew straight away. Can heatscasino point to some examples, and quantify this? To elaborate, I have been a member of heatscasino for months, and over that time I had probably made >30 deposits, and made $100000 of wagers. Yes, there may have been one or two times where I had deposited, but then decided against and instead withdraw my deposit. There is one time, In the first or second week of April where I had made a deposit, for a deposit bonus, the live agent had stopped responding, and did not add the bonus to my deposit - I therefore changed my mind on playing and withdrew my deposit given the agreed bonus had not been added at that time.
However to insinuate that I had a repeated pattern of behavior of constantly depositing and immediately withdrawing is incorrect - my wager history would demonstrate that, and I disagree with this notion. How many times am I alleged to have repeatedly deposited and withdrawn within a short space of time?
Your second question
Are you aware of the fact that it breaches the casino's Terms and Conditions (AML rules)?
No, to be honest I wasn't aware. Although I can see this on the AML section of their website. However I would contend that heatscasino AML safeguards are not particularly robust. Heatscasino cryptocurrency withdrawal process is instantaneous, as soon as you place your withdrawal address in the cashier and submit the withdrawal request, the money is in your wallet, regardless of how many times you turn it over - withdrawal requests aren't routinely reviewed.
Every other online casino I have played at will have a withdrawal reviewed prior to being granted, and will reject the withdrawal if the minimum wagering requirement isn't met (i.e. 3x). Why don't heatscasino do this? Instead they have a predatory AML policy that states they will confiscate your money. Whilst we are on their AML policy, have you read it Branislav? It comes across very predatory.
"If you are a player playing on Heats Casino or any casino under the same licensing umbrella, you must wager your deposited funds at least 3x before withdrawal. If you deposit funds, and attempt to withdraw those deposited funds without any significant difference in your balance (at least 50% balance differential from deposit), this can and will be flagged as money laundering, and your funds will be confiscated. "
Have you read that last line? Say If I were to deposit $10000, and I go onto make $1000000 in wagering, and through this lose $4000 and decide to withdraw my remaining $6000. As per their policy they reserve the right to confiscate that $6000, as the change in balance would be less than 50%. That's incredible!
Your third question
The casino informed you about their position and that you cannot play in such a way, depositing and withdrawing right away, much earlier than your account was blocked for the last time, due to the same reason, so you were informed about it before your last deposits, but you continued with that anyway. Why?
I disagree with this, when did the casino inform me of this previously? Also, my final deposit, the one that this dispute is about. I didn't withdraw it, I wasn't even able to try and withdraw it as the withdrawal section on my account was blocked off. Yes, I wanted to withdraw it, however again I wasn't able to. So in regards to this $50 deposit I made, how did I exactly breach the AML policy on this occasion? Yes a deposit must be wagered x3 before a withdrawal could be made - however the point is a withdrawal wasn't made yet, so I couldn't have breached the policy on this specific occasion/deposit.
Your fourth question
Do I understand correctly that you did not increase your balance by playing but rather by making another deposit to the casino?
I don't understand this question. My final deposit was approximately the equivalent of $50 in ethereum at the time, and I did absolutely wager with this money where the balance eventually increased to $72, are you saying that instead I made further deposits to increase my balance to $72? If that's the case then heatscasino have fabricated my play/transaction history, and I would love to see the copy of what they sent you.
I hope my responses have addressed your questions. As an aside I have screenshots of other dubious behavior from heatscasino where they change bonus terms mid offer, I am happy to send this to you.
Essentially all I'm looking for is my deposit to be returned.
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