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Slots Safari Casino - Igra? izaziva deskriptore depozita i zatvaranje naloga.
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The player from the UK is questioning the commercial descriptors appearing on their bank statement for casino deposits. They're also contesting the closure of their account by Slotssafari and seeking refund of £298.23. The casino has not responded to their emails about these issues and the player is threatening to resort to chargebacks through their bank. The complaint was rejected as the casino was not obligate to refund the player's money if it has been already lost.
Igra? iz UK ispituje komercijalne deskriptore koji se pojavljuju na njihovom bankovnom izvodu za kazino depozite. Oni tako?e osporavaju zatvaranje svog naloga od strane Slotsafarija i tra?e povra?aj od 298,23 funti. Kazino nije odgovorio na njihove e-poruke o ovim problemima i igra? preti da ?e pribegavati povra?aju sredstava preko svoje banke. ?alba je odbijena jer kazino nije bio u obavezi da vrati novac igra?u ako je ve? izgubljen.
Opet jo? jedan odmetnuti kazino, kako da se izvuku sa tim. Opet, svi moji depoziti imaju stvarne poslove kao svoj deskriptor:
Straridges.com
Goodshom.com
Achphil Varieti Store
nikada nisam kupio ni?ta u ovim prodavnicama, pa za?to bi se pojavile na mom bankovnom izvodu.
Slotsafari mi duguje £298.23.
Kopirao sam sva preduze?a u sve svoje imejlove - nijedno od njih nije odgovorilo. Ovo je poslednji transkript koji imam od njih 24.10.23
Slotssafari odgovor na moj problem sa mojim novcem koji ide u tri preduze?a:
?elimo da vas obavestimo da je ovo deskriptor koji koristi na? provajder pla?anja, o ?emu nije na nama da odlu?ujemo, ali mo?emo videti va? depozit u na?oj pozadinskoj kancelariji.
Dozvolite mi da vas uverim da je va? ra?un sada zatvoren i da ne?ete mo?i da izvr?ite depozit.
?to se ti?e svih depozita, kao ?to na?i uslovi navode, na isti na?in na koji bismo po?tovali sve opklade postavljene dok je ra?un bio otvoren, naravno ne mo?emo da refundiramo nijednu opkladu postavljenu suprotno od ovoga.
Va? nalog ne?e biti ponovo otvoren i ?elim vam sve najbolje.
opet,
Ako ova ?alba ne donese re?enje, pribega?u povra?aju sredstava preko svoje banke!
Yet again another rogue casino, how do they get away with it. Again all my deposits have actual businesses as their descriptor:
Straridges.com
Goodshom.com
Achphil Variety Store
i have never purchased anything from these stores so why would they appear on my bank statement.
Slotssafari owes me £298.23.
I have copied all the businesses into all my emails - not one of them has responded. This is the last transcript I have from them 24/10/23
Slotssafari response to my issue with my money going to the three businesses:
We would like to inform you that this is a descriptor used by our payment provider, which is not up to us to decide, but we can see your deposit in our back office.
Let me assure you that your account is now closed and will not be able to deposit.
Regarding all deposits, as our terms state, the same way that we would honour any bets placed whilst the account was open we of course cannot refund any bets placed in the reverse of this.
Your account will not be reopened again and i wish you all the best.
Again,
If this complaint does not bring about a resolution I will resort to chargebacks through my bank!
Hvala vam puno ?to ste podneli ?albu. Zaista mi je ?ao ?to ?ujem za va? problem sa Slots Safari kazinom. Bojim se da ?e mi trebati vi?e informacija o va?em problemu. Molim vas, mo?ete li detaljnije objasniti? Za?to bi vam kazino ne?to dugovao? Da li ste imali preostalo stanje na ra?unu kada je zatvoren? Strpljivo ?u ?ekati va? odgovor.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Nick
Dear DescriptorRaptor,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m really sorry to hear about your issue with Slots Safari Casino. I’m afraid, I will need more information regarding your problem. Please could you elaborate? Why would the casino owe you anything? Did you have any remaining balance on your account when it got closed? I will be waiting for your reply patiently.
Nije mi ostalo ni?ta, ali kada sam pogledao izvod iz banke, ovi deskriptori nisu imali nikakvu referencu na kazino, ve? na 3 razli?ita preduze?a, za koje nikada nisam ?uo, a kamoli kupio od njih. Dakle, mo?e se zaklju?iti da ne posluju legalno i da ja ne?u biti deo ove prevare. Zbog toga ?elim svoj novac nazad jer svaka sumnjiva aktivnost ?ini njihov kazino potpuno nepoverljivim.
?Deskriptori su namenjeni da pomognu vlasniku kartice da identifikuje transakcije na svom bankovnom izvodu za kupljene proizvode ili usluge".
Ako vlasnik kartice ne razume lako deskriptor obra?una i ne prepozna transakciju, mo?e se pokrenuti povra?aj sredstava.
Velobet kazino mi je upravo vratio £584 bez verifikacije naloga. Njihov deskriptor je bio Vebops Ltd - tra?ili su od mene da ne eskaliram stvar jer ?e vratiti sve depozite, ?to mi sugeri?e da su potpuno svesni ?ta rade i opet je njihova aktivnost veoma upitna. Ovi kazina mogu da ka?u da sam se kladio i igrao, pa za?to bih dobio povra?aj novca. Moj odgovor na to bi bio, ako postoji bilo kakva sumnja u njihov integritet i FairPlai, to je izlo?eno u kori??enim deskriptorima i to izaziva veliku crvenu zastavu, kao ?to sam sada otkrio.
Nikada ne?ete pobediti ako ne posluju po?teno i bez potrebe da ula?u novac u potpuno nepovezane poslove. Oni to NE rade sa mojim novcem PERIOD!
Hi Nick
I did not have any balance left but when I looked on my bank statement these descriptors did not have any reference to the casino, but instead 3 different businesses, who I have never heard of, let alone purchased from. Therefore, it can be concluded they are not operating legally and I will not be part of this fraudulent activity. This is why I want my money back because any questionable activity renders their casino totally untrustworthy.
‘Descriptors are intended to help the cardholder identify the transactions on their bank statement for products or services purchased’.
If the cardholder doesn't easily understand the billing descriptor and recognise the transaction, a chargeback can be initiated’.
Velobet Casino just returned £584 to me without verifying my account. Their descriptor was Webops Ltd - they asked me not to escalate the matter as they would refund all the deposits, which suggests to me they are fully aware of what they are doing and again their activity is highly questionable. These casinos can state I made the bets and played so why would I get a refund. My reply to that would be, if there is any doubts about their integrity and FairPlay this is exposed in the descriptors used and it raises a big red flag, as I have now discovered.
You will never win if they do not operate fairly and without the need to put money into completely unrelated businesses. They are NOT doing that with my money PERIOD!
?eleo bih samo da dodam ovo veoma zanimljivo otkri?e:
Kazina koji nisu GAMSTOP ?e anga?ovati tre?e strane za obradu pla?anja koji pogre?no kodiraju pla?anja ka i od operatera, ?to banci ili dobavlja?u kartice predstavlja da je pla?anje za ne?to drugo osim kockanja. Ovo je zapravo pranje novca i finansijske institucije rade veoma naporno da identifikuju transakcije ove prirode i zabrane kompaniju koja je inicirala.
I would just like to add this very interesting find:
Non-GAMSTOP casinos will hire third party payment processors who miscode payments to and from the operator, representing to the bank or card provider that the payment is for something other than gambling. This is effectively money laundering and the financial institutions work very hard to identify transactions of this nature and ban the initiating company.
Nakon ?to sam izrazio zabrinutost zbog mojih depozita koji pokazuju da je deskriptor stvarne kompanije Ve*ops Ltd sakriven puni identitet u slu?aju da kr?i CG pravila (kompanija za koju nikada nisam ?uo, a kamoli ne?to od nje kupio), izazvao sam Velobet kazino i nakon mnogo razmene e-po?te pristali su da mi refundiraju sve moje depozite u iznosu od preko 580£ - primio sam sve novce! ??
Samo izla?em ovo tamo!
After raising concerns about my deposits showing a descriptor of the actual company We*ops Ltd full identity hidden in case it breaches CG rules (a company I have never heard of, let alone purchased anything from), I challenged Velobet Casino and after a lot of email exchanges they agreed to refund me all my deposits amounting to over £580 - I have received all monies! ??
Postoji li neki razlog za?to je potrebno toliko vremena da pregledam moje postove Nick?
A?URIRANjE POVRATAKA :
Nakon ?to sam pisao komercijalnim kompanijama koje su nezakonito obra?ivale moje depozite za Slots Safari , dobio sam pun povra?aj novca od jednog preduze?a u iznosu od £50,30.
Vreme otkucava, pa ako povra?aj sredstava od drugih komercijalnih kompanija/ Slots Safari ne bude primljen, tra?i?u povra?aj sredstava - zahvaljuju?i povra?aju sredstava ovo mi daje odli?an dokaz za banku da poka?e da sam li?no poku?ao da obezbedim povra?aj sredstava od potencijalnog kazino za 'pranje novca'!
Is there any reason why it’s taking so long to review my posts Nick?
REFUNDS UPDATE:
After writing to the commercial companies who illegally processed my deposits for Slots Safari, I have recieved a full refund from one business for £50.30.
The time is ticking, so if refunds from the other commercial companies/Slots Safari are not received I will be seeking chargebacks - thanks to the refund this gives me great evidence for the bank to show I have personally attempted to secure the refunds from a potential ‘money laundering’ casino!
Za?to toliko mojih postova jo? uvek ?eka na odobrenje, pretpostavljam, iako nikada ne treba pretpostaviti, da imate alate koji mogu da sakriju osetljive podatke?!
Why are so many of my posts still awaiting approval, I assume, although one should never assume, you have tools that can hide sensitive data?!
Imao sam zaista dobar razgovor sa timom za prevare moje banke danas i oni su mi od velike podr?ke i od pomo?i.
Banka je zaustavila moju karticu tako da bilo kakav povra?aj vi?e nije mogu? originalnim na?inom pla?anja - dva kazina/komercijalna preduze?a su mudro vratila moje depozite!
Ako mogu da pomognem samo jednoj ugro?enoj osobi, otkrivanjem kazina koji nisu GAMSTOP i koji nisu u skladu sa Zakonom o spre?avanju pranja novca, moje vreme ?e biti vredno toga!
VA?NO (izvor ThePOGG.com)
Regulator zahteva od svakog operatera kockanja sa licencom u Ujedinjenom Kraljevstvu da se uklju?i u program GAMSTOP. Od ovog pravila vi?e nema izuzetaka.
Jedina kazina koja ?e prihvatiti igra?e iz UK koji nisu deo GAMSTOP programa su kazina koja nisu licencirana i prihvataju igra?e iz UK ilegalno!
Nije legalno da bilo koji kazino koji nema UKGC licencu prihvata igra?e iz UK. Bilo koji kazino koji nije na GAMSTOP-u ne poseduje UKGC licencu. Me?utim, posao je taj koji ?ini nezakonit prekr?aj, a ne igra?.
I had a really good chat with my bank’s fraud team today and they are being very supportive and helpful.
The bank put a stop on my card so any refunds are no longer possible via the original payment method - two casinos/commercial companies wisely returned my deposits!
If I can help just one vulnerable person, by exposing non-GAMSTOP casinos who are not Anti-Money Laundering Compliant, my time will have been worth it!
IMPORTANT (source ThePOGG.com)
Every UK licensed gambling operator is required by the regulator to engage with the GAMSTOP program. There are no exceptions to this rule anymore.
The only casinos that will accept UK players that are not part of the GAMSTOP program are casinos that are unlicensed and accepting UK players illegally!
It is not legal for any casino that does not hold a UKGC license to accept UK players. Any casino not on GAMSTOP does not hold a UKGC license. However, it is the business that is committing an illegal offense, not the player.
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritu?bu. Produ?ujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predvi?enom roku, prigovo ?emo zatvoriti kao "nere?en", ?to mo?e negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
I onlajn i lokalna kazina ?esto zloupotrebljavaju kriminalci za pranje prljavog novca. Radna grupa za finansijsku akciju (FATF) identifikuje devet potencijalnih ranjivosti koje kazina mogu imati u smislu pranja novca. To uklju?uje:
Gotovina pla?anja
Primanje imovinske koristi ste?ene krivi?nim delom
Prepaid kartice
Depozitni ra?uni
Prenos novca izme?u kupaca
Vi?e naloga
Vi?e operatera
Prevara identiteta
Tre?a lica
Crvenezastave
FATF pru?a listu crvenih zastavica na koje treba da pazite, uklju?uju?i:
Transakcije koje nisu u skladu sa profilom klijenta
Deponovanje vi?e iznosa gotovine i primanje vi?e ?ekova povu?enih na tom ra?unu
Vi?e pojedinaca ?alju sredstva jednom korisniku
?ekovi izdati ?lanu porodice kockara
Sredstva preba?ena na ra?une tre?ih lica
Transakcije na kazino ra?unima koje obavljaju osobe koje nisu vlasnik ra?una
Kori??enje tre?ih lica za preduzimanje strukturiranja depozita i elektronskih transfera
Nadam se da ?e nekome ovo biti od koristi, pao sam, ne?u da radite iste igra?e!
Both online and on-premises casinos are often abused by criminals to launder dirty money. The Financial Action Task Force (FATF) identifies nine potential vulnerabilities that casinos might have in terms of money laundering. They include:
Cash payments
Receiving proceeds of a crime
Prepaid cards
Deposit accounts
Transferring money between customers
Multiple accounts
Multiple operators
Identity fraud
Third parties
RedFlags
The FATF provides a list of red flags that you should watch out for, including:
Transactions inconsistent with the customer’s profile
Depositing multiple amounts of cash and receiving multiple cheques drawn on that account
Multiple individuals sending funds to one beneficiary
Cheques issued to a family member of a gambler
Funds transferred into third-party accounts
Transactions on casino accounts conducted by persons other than the account holder
Use of third parties to undertake the structuring of deposits and wire transfers
I hope someone finds this useful, I fell, I don’t want you to do the same players!
Tajmer je slu?ajno pode?en na kazino jer je trebalo da jo? uvek bude pode?en na igra?u (vama). Drago mi je da ?ujem da vam je kompanija vratila ne?to novca, ali sa na?e ta?ke gledi?ta, nisu u obavezi. Licenca kazina nema nikakve veze ni sa ?im jer ste se svesno registrovali u kazino i pristali na njihova pravila. Ako ste tamo izgubili novac, on je jednostavno izgubljen i ne mo?ete jednostavno tra?iti povra?aj novca bez razloga. Kazino odlu?uje kako ?e im novac biti preba?en i sve dok je stigao na va? kazino ra?un, nema o ?emu da se pri?a.
Hello DescriptorRaptor,
The timer was accidentally set to the casino as it was meant to be still set on the player(you). I'm glad to hear that the company refunded you some money but from our point of view, they are not obligate to. The license of the casino has nothing to do with anything as you knowingly registered into the casino and agreed to their rules. If you did lose the money there, it is simply lost and you can't just request a refund for no reason. It is the casino's decision how the money is transferred to them and as long as it did arrive on your casino account, there is nothing to talk about.
?alba ?e sada biti odbijena iz gore obja?njenog razloga.
Obavezno uvek proverite uslove kazina i licenciranje pre nego ?to se registrujete u bilo kom onlajn kazinu kako biste spre?ili da se takvi problemi pojave u budu?nosti.
The complaint will be now rejected for the above explained reason.
Please be sure to always check the casino terms and licensing before registering in any online casino to prevent such issues to occur in the future.
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