Da, verhokat, primetio sam. Me?utim, ?ak i da je kazino to bukvalno naveo u svojim Uslovima i odredbama (u vezi sa dr?avljanstvom), ne bi imalo smisla da ga kazino primeni ili primeni uprkos tome ?to nije tra?io ove informacije od igra?a prilikom registracije.
Dragi timu Smokace kazina ,
Iako se to ne de?ava ?esto, u ovom slu?aju moram da se slo?im sa igra?em.
Ako igra? ima prebivali?te u Poljskoj, ?ta je trebalo da popuni prilikom registracije? ?ta je pogre?no popunjeno da joj je kazino dozvolio da se registruje, deponuje i igra?
Ako bi joj bilo dozvoljeno da igra samo na osnovu svoje lokacije, bilo bi po?teno dati joj ?ansu da doka?e da ?ivi u Poljskoj. Kazino ima pravo da zatvori bilo koji ra?un u bilo kom trenutku, bez navo?enja razloga, ali ako ne postoji opravdan razlog za oduzimanje dobitka, takvu odluku mo?emo prihvatiti samo ako se ceo preostali iznos isplati u potpunosti. Pored toga, u pravilima kazina nema ni re?i o dr?avljanstvu, a ako pa?ljivo pro?ete kroz navedena pravila, da li je ta?no sve ?to je igra? tvrdio (ni?ta drugo jo? nije dokazano od strane kazina), mogli biste saznati da u su?tini nijedno od tih pravila nije prekr?eno.
Postoji jedan veoma lep primer od jednog mog kolege za ovo, i ?eleo bih da ga podelim.
Da sam dr?avljanin Holandije, gde su neke vrste droga dozvoljene, to ne bi zna?ilo da mogu da ih koristim u drugim zemljama samo zato ?to sam iz Holandije. Prema logici primene gore navedenih pravila od strane kazina, to bi zna?ilo da bih mogao da u?ivam u zabranjenim supstancama u bilo kojoj zemlji na Zemlji.
U slu?aju da igra? ?ivi u Poljskoj, ona podle?e poljskim zakonima. Igrala je iz Poljske.
Na?alost, bojim se da uop?te niste odgovorili na nekoliko pitanja, pa bih ?eleo da ih ponovim.
" Koje korake igra? treba da preduzme da deblokira ra?un i/ili povu?e stanje?
Da li je podnosilac ?albe pristupio veb stranici kazina i igrao u kazinu iz Ukrajine?
Da li kazino zahteva informacije o dr?avljanstvu prilikom registracije? Pod uslovom da zaista ?ivi u Poljskoj, da li je sve ispravno popunila prilikom registracije? Da li je dala dovoljno dokumenata da potvrdi svoje prebivali?te u Poljskoj?
Ako je poku?ala da sakrije svoju trenutnu lokaciju ili ako je prekr?ena bilo koja druga pravila, da li je kazino u stanju da to potkrijepi relevantnim dokazima?
Podatke je mogu?e podeliti direktno ovde, uz va? odgovor, ili slanjem na moju e-mail adresu ( [email protected] ). "
Za?to trenutno prebivali?te igra?a nije bitno?
Probao sam to pre nekog vremena. Obrazac za registraciju ?ak i ne zahteva popunjavanje zemlje. Automatski se postavlja na podrazumevanu vrednost prema trenutnoj lokaciji igra?a. Tako?e, mesto za popunjavanje nema opis.
Ako ne postoji ni?ta ?to bi moglo da doka?e da je igrala iz ograni?ene zemlje ili da je sakrila svoju lokaciju, ili da je popunila neta?ne ili neta?ne li?ne podatke da bi se registrovala i igrala u Smokace kazinu, da li kazino mo?e preispitati svoju odluku i isplatiti preostali balans igra?a?
Yes, verkhokat, I noticed it. However, even if the casino had it literally stated in its Terms and Conditions (regarding citizenship), it would not make sense if the casino applied it or applied it despite not asking for this information from players upon registration.
Dear Smokace Casino team,
Although it does not happen often, in this case, I have to agree with the player.
If the player resides in Poland, what should she have filled in upon registration? What was filled in incorrectly that the casino allowed her to register, deposit, and play?
If she was allowed to play only based on her location, it would be fair to provide her with a chance to prove that she resides in Poland. The casino has a right to close any account at any time, without giving a reason, but if there is no justified reason to confiscate the winnings, we are able to accept such a decision only if the entire remaining balance is paid out completely. In addition, there is no word about citizenship in the casino's rules, and if you go through the stated rules carefully, if everything that the player claimed is true (nothing else has been proven by the casino yet), you could find out that basically none of those rules were broken.
There is a very nice example from one of my colleagues for this, and I would like to share it.
If I were a citizen of the Netherlands, where some types of drugs are allowed, it would not mean that I can use them in other countries only because I am from the Netherlands. According to the logic of applying the rules stated above by the casino, it would mean that I could enjoy prohibited substances in any country on Earth.
In case the player resides in Poland, she is subject to Polish laws. She played from Poland.
Unfortunately, I am afraid you have not answered several questions at all, so I would like to repeat them.
"What steps should the player take to unblock the account and/or withdraw the balance?
Did the complainant access the casino website and play at the casino from Ukraine?
Does the casino require information about citizenship during registration? Provided that she really resides in Poland, did she fill out everything correctly upon registration? Did she provide enough documents to verify her residence in Poland?
If she tried to hide her current location or if any other rules were breached, is the casino able to substantiate it with relevant evidence?
It is possible to share the data directly here, with your reply, or by sending them to my email address ([email protected])."
Why does the player's current residence make no difference?
I tried it myself a while ago. The registration form even does not require filling in a country. It is automatically set to default value according to a player's current location. Also, the place to fill has no description.
If there is nothing that could prove that she played from a restricted country or hid her location, or that she filled in untrue or incorrect personal information in order to register and play in Smokace Casino, is the casino able to reconsider its decision and pay out the player's remaining balance?
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