Zajedno sa na?om metodologijom recenzija, mi smo izra?unali Sigurnosni indeks kazina baziran na vi?e od 20 faktora, uklju?uju?i finansije, fer Uslove i pravila, prigovore igra?a i drugo. ?to je vi?i Sigurnosni indeks, ve?e su ?anse da vam va?i dobici budu ispla?eni.
The player from Croatia has been blocked without further explanation. The casino stated that the player's account had been linked to multiple other accounts, and also that the authenticity of the player's documents was questionable. as we could not find a mutual resolution to this case, and the evidence available was inconclusive, we recommended the player contact the casino's licensing authority and submit a complaint to them. The player stopped responding at this point, so the complaint was eventually rejected.
Igra? iz Hrvatske je blokiran bez daljeg obja?njenja. Kazino je naveo da je ra?un igra?a povezan sa vi?e drugih naloga, kao i da je autenti?nost dokumenata igra?a upitna. po?to nismo mogli da prona?emo zajedni?ko re?enje za ovaj slu?aj, a dostupni dokazi nisu bili ubedljivi, preporu?ili smo igra?u da kontaktira autoritet za licenciranje kazina i da im podnese ?albu. Igra? je u ovom trenutku prestao da odgovara, pa je ?alba na kraju odbijena.
Zdravo, imam nalog sa 11.000 krp (pribli?no 5.000 evra). Kada sam uplatio novac, blokirali su mi ra?un. ?aljem im selfije i sve svoje dokumente, ali svaki put oni potvrde moju verifikaciju do nivoa 2. Zadr?avaju moj depozit vi?e od 2 meseca. Mo?e? li mi pomo?i.
Hi, I have account with 11k xrp(app. 5k euro). When I deposit money they blocked my account. I send them selfie and all my documents but everytime they back my verification to Level 2. They hold my deposit over 2 months. Please can you help me.
Hvala vam puno ?to ste podneli ?albu. ?ao mi je ?to ?ujem za va? problem. Da li sam dobro razumeo da je va? nalog trenutno blokiran zbog verifikacije koja je u toku?
Imajte na umu da je KIC veoma va?an i su?tinski proces, tokom kojeg kazino osigurava da se novac po?alje pravom vlasniku. Kako nemaju luksuz da fizi?ki vide sve igra?e i provere njihove identifikacione i dokumente, to je jedini na?in na koji kockarske ustanove mogu da zavr?e procedure verifikacije. Nijedan od ozbiljnih i licenciranih kazina ne shvata KIC olako i mo?e potrajati nekoliko radnih dana da se ovaj detaljan proces zavr?i.
Mo?ete li molim vas da nam ka?ete koje ste dokumente ve? dostavili i kada ste ta?no poslali poslednji? Da li ste dostavili svu tra?enu dokumentaciju u najkra?em mogu?em roku iu ispravnom formatu?
Nadam se da ?emo mo?i da vam pomognemo da re?ite ovaj problem ?to je pre mogu?e. Hvala unapred na odgovoru.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Kristina
Dear mostojic,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Do I understand correctly that your account is currently blocked due to ongoing verification?
Please understand that KYC is a very important and essential process, during which the casino makes sure that the money is sent to the rightful owner. As they don't have the luxury of being able to physically see all of the players and check their identification and documents, this is the only way gambling establishments are able to complete the verification procedures. None of the serious and licensed casinos takes KYC lightly and it might take a few working days to complete this thorough process.
Could you please advise which documents have you already provided and when exactly you sent the last one? Have you provided all the required documents as soon as possible and in the correct format?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Slu?aj, imaju verifikaciju na 4 nivoa, kada uplatim novac blokirali su mi ra?un. Mogu da se prijavim na nalog, ali ne mogu da koristim nalog. Novac je na ra?unu. Zavr?io sam nivo 1 i nivo 2, nakon toga im ?aljem nivo 3, 3 puta ?aljem im dokaz adrese, ali oni se vra?aju na nivo 1, ?aljem im ponovo li?nu kartu, napred nazad, selfi sa li?nom kartom, nakon toga ?aljem njima za nivo 3, dokaz adrese, nakon ?to ?ele selfi sa dokazom adrese, ja im ?aljem, nakon toga ?ele dokaz Ja pla?am ovaj gas na ra?unu, ?aljem dokaz, ali oni se ponovo vra?aju na nivo 2. Sada je ovaj proces 2 meseca. Mogu vam poslati sve svoje dokumente i fotografije ono ?to im ?aljem.
Listen, They have 4 Level verification, when I deposit money they blocked my account. I can login to account, but I cant use account. Money is on account. I completed Level 1 and Level 2, after that I send them Level 3, 3x times i send them proof of address, but they back again to Level 1, I send them again ID, fron back, selfie with ID, after that I send them for Level 3, proof of address, after they want selfie with proof of address, i send them, after that they want proof I pay this gas of bill, I send proof, but they again back to Level 2. Now this process is 2 months. I can send you all my documents and photos what I send them.
Hvala puno na odgovoru, mostojicu. Pre nego ?to kontaktiramo kazino, mo?ete li proslediti svu relevantnu komunikaciju izme?u vas i kazina na [email protected] ? Alternativno, mo?ete ga objaviti ovde. Hvala unapred.
Thank you very much for your reply, mostojic. Before we contact the casino, could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to [email protected]? Alternatively, you can post it here. Thank you in advance.
Najlep?e hvala mostojicu na saradnji. Sada ?u preneti va?u ?albu svom kolegi Adamu ( [email protected] ) koji ?e vam biti u pomo?i. ?elim vam puno sre?e i nadam se da ?e va? problem uskoro biti re?en na va?e zadovoljstvo.
Thank you very much mostojic for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Adam ([email protected]) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Ve? smo odgovorili na ?albu igra?a na drugim kanalima i isti zna da je njegov nalog zabranjen jer smo otkrili da je isti otvorio vi?e naloga na vvv.stake.com.
Ako je mogu?e, dostavite nam svoju e-po?tu kako bismo vam mogli poslati dokaze koje smo prikupili.
najbolje,
Ulog
Dear Casino Guru,
We have already replied to the player complaint in other channels and the same knows that its account was banned due to we have detected that the same has opened multiple accounts at www.stake.com.
If possible, provide us your e-mail so that we can send you the evidences that we have collected.
Dobili smo dokaze iz kazina koji sugeri?u da je va? nalog povezan sa drugim nalogom. Ovo se jo? uvek razmatra, ali u me?uvremenu mogu da vas zamolim da potvrdite da li ste koristili svoj nalog za sportsko kla?enje ili kazino igre?
Srda?an pozdrav,
Adam
Thank you for your e-mail, Stake Casino.
Dear mostojic,
We have received evidence from the casino suggesting that your account is linked to another account. This is still being reviewed, but in the meantime could I ask you please to confirm if you have used your account for Sports Betting or Casino games?
Zdravo, mo?ete li mi dati dokaze o mom vi?estrukom nalogu??? Ne igram ni?ta. Uplatio sam samo depozit bez igre, nakon depozita su mi blokirali nalog.
Hi, can you please provide me proofs about my multiple account??? I dont play nothing. I made only deposit without play, after deposit they blocked my account.
?ini se da postoje neka odstupanja u pogledu va?e li?ne karte kada se uporedi sa primerkom prikazanim na veb stranici hrvatske Vlade. Me?utim, ne mogu sa sigurno??u da zaklju?im da ovo dokazuje da va? dokument nije legitiman.
?to se ti?e veze sa drugim nalozima, kazino je pru?io dokaz koji pokazuje da je drugi nalog kreiran koriste?i istu IP adresu kao i va? nalog i da se to dogodilo u roku od jednog sata od kreiranja va?eg naloga. Tako?e, kod koji ste koristili kada ste registrovali svoj nalog bio je specifi?an za jednog igra?a, a ipak ga je koristio va? nalog i mnogi drugi.
Mo?ete li da objasnite kako je to moglo biti tako? Tako?e, ranije sam vas zamolio da razjasnite da li ste igrali kazino igre ili se kladili na sport, odgovorite na ovo.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Adam
Thank you for the evidence provided, Stake Casino.
Dear mostojic,
There do appear to be some discrepancies regarding your ID when it is compared to the specimen shown on the Croatian Government website. However, I am not able to conclude with any certainty that this proves your document is not legitimate.
Regarding the link to other accounts, the casino has provided evidence that shows that a second account has been created using the same IP address as your account and that this happened within one hour of the creation of your account. Also, the code that you used when you registered your account was specific to one player, and yet has been used by your account and many others.
Are you able to explain how this could be the case? Also, I asked you before to clarify if you have played casino games or placed bets on sports, please respond to this.
Pre svega, moja stara li?na karta je istekla i dajem novu li?nu kartu. Ovo mo?ete provjeriti na Vladi Hrvatske.
Stvarno ne razumem ?ta je ovde la?no? Mogu da pru?im 100 puta vi?e od svoje li?ne karte iz svih drugih uglova.
Za IP ne razumem ?ta ovo zna?i? Otvaram nalog u kafi?u povezanom na ViFi. Ovo nije razlog da ukradete moj depozit. Tako?e, Stake ima mnogo linkova koje pru?aju na mnogim sajtovima, zaista ne znam na koje kliknem. Ovako:
Objavite mnogo linkova na celom internetu, zaista ne znam na koje kliknem.
Predla?em video verifikaciju, ali podr?ka Stake me ignori?e, niko mi ne odgovara. ?ta jo? treba da uradim da bih povukao novac? Ulog im je promenjen dokaze od po?etka, prvo recimo vi?estruki nalog, posle toga pi?ite mi da dam li?nu kartu, ja dam ID, posle toga recite mi la?ni ID, pa opet vi?e naloga. Nemaju razloga da ukradu moj depozit.
Ka?em vam da sam uplatio depozit bez igre, ali Stake suspenduje moj nalog bez igre. SAMO DEPOZIT BEZ IGRE!
Hi,
First of all my old ID expired and I provide my new ID. You can check this on Croatian Government.
Really I dont understand what is here fake? I can provide 100x times my ID from all other corners.
For IP I dont understand what mean this? I open account in caffee bar connected on WiFi. This is not reason to steal my deposit. Also Stake have many links what they provide on many sites, really I dont know which I click. Like this:
The publish many links on all internet really I dont know which I click.
I suggest video verification, but Stake support ignore me, nobody answer me. What I need do more to withdraw money? Stake is changed their proofs from start, first say multiple account, after that write me to provide my ID, I provide ID, after that say me fake ID, after that again multiple account. They havent any reason to steal my deposit.
I say you I made deposit without play, but Stake suspend my account without any game. ONLY DEPOSIT WITHOUT PLAY!
Prihvatite moje izvinjenje zbog zaka?njelog odgovora.
Zbog prirode ovog slu?aja, o njemu ?e se interno razgovarati na na?em nedeljnom sastanku. Produ?i?u tajmer i nakon ovog sastanka a?urira?u ovu temu na?im zaklju?cima.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Adam
Hello all,
Please accept my apologies for my delayed response.
Due to the nature of this case, it will be discussed internally at our weekly meeting. I will extend the timer and after this meeting, I will update this thread with our conclusions.
Op?irno smo razgovarali o ovom slu?aju i odlu?ili da u ovom slu?aju igra?u treba vratiti depozit.
Iako postoje neki dokazi koji povezuju nalog igra?a sa drugim nalozima, nije sasvim jasno da li je igra? nameravao da stekne bilo kakvu nepravednu prednost ili zaobi?e bilo koja pravila.
?to se ti?e li?ne karte igra?a, ne verujemo da postoji dovoljno dokaza koji bi potvrdili da je ovo bilo ?ta drugo osim autenti?no.
Stoga smatramo da igra?u treba vratiti depozit, a ra?un zatvoriti po naho?enju kazina.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Adam
Dear all,
We have discussed this case at length, and have decided that in this case, the player should have their deposit returned to them.
While there is some evidence linking the player's account to other accounts, it is not entirely clear that the player has intended to gain any unfair advantage or circumvent any rules.
Regarding the player's ID, we do not believe there is enough evidence to support that this is anything but authentic.
Therefore, we believe that the player's deposit should be returned, and the account should be closed at the discretion of the casino.
Dalje smo razgovarali o va?em slu?aju i nismo uspeli da postignemo zajedni?ki dogovor sa kazinom. Zbog toga je odlu?eno da je najbolji na?in da preduzmete da kontaktirate autoritet za licenciranje kazina i podnesete im ?albu. Imaju vi?e opcija i alata da pomognu igra?ima u ovakvim situacijama.
Mo?ete kontaktirati Curacao Antillephone NV autoritet za licenciranje putem e-po?te, [email protected] .
Obavestite me kada ste to u?inili i ova ?alba ?e biti privremeno zatvorena dok ?ekamo odluku regulatora. Kada odluka bude poznata, ponovo ?emo otvoriti ovu ?albu i postupiti u skladu sa tim.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Adam
Dear mostojic,
We have discussed your case further and have been unable to come to a mutual agreement with the casino. Therefore, it has been decided that the best course of action for you to take is to contact the casino's licensing authority and submit a complaint to them. They have more options and tools to help players in situations such as this.
You can contact the Curacao Antillephone NV licensing authority via e-mail, [email protected].
Please let me know when you have done so, and this complaint will be closed temporarily while we await the decision of the regulator. When the decision is known, we will reopen this complaint and proceed accordingly.
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