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The player from Canada had his account closed when he attempted his first withdrawal. The casino had cited the creation of multiple accounts as the reason. However, the player had denied using multiple accounts or promotions. Despite the player's denial, the casino had provided evidence of multiple accounts linked to the player, including bonus abuse. The Complaints Team concluded that the casino had acted in accordance with its terms and conditions, as multiple accounts and bonus abuse were serious violations. Consequently, the complaint had been closed as unjustified.
Spelaren fr?n Kanada hade sitt konto st?ngt n?r han f?rs?kte sitt f?rsta uttag. Kasinot hade n?mnt skapandet av flera konton som anledningen. D?remot hade spelaren f?rnekat att han anv?nde flera konton eller kampanjer. Trots spelarens f?rnekande hade kasinot tillhandah?llit bevis p? flera konton kopplade till spelaren, inklusive bonusmissbruk. Klagom?lsteamet drog slutsatsen att kasinot hade agerat i enlighet med dess villkor, eftersom flera konton och bonusmissbruk var allvarliga ?vertr?delser. F?ljaktligen hade klagom?let avslutats som omotiverat.
Gick till uttagsvinster efter att ha spelat i timmar och fick mejl om att uttaget nekades. Jag fick sedan ett e-postmeddelande om att kontot har st?ngts p? grund av att jag skapat mer ?n ett konto f?r att kunna dra nytta av casinokampanjen. Jag ?ppnade mitt konto dagen f?r uttag och anv?nde aldrig n?gon kampanj eller bonus. Jag gick in p? min profil och tackade nej till bonusen f?r att g?ra uttag. Efter att ha kontaktat supporten s?ger de bara "Det finns inget behov av ytterligare ?tg?rder eftersom v?rt system har identifierat och ?tg?rdat problemet. Det har uppt?ckt flera konton som ?r kopplade till din profil och har d?refter blockerat alla, inklusive det nuvarande." Jag har spelat p? ett annat online casino och aldrig anv?nt detta tidigare. F?rsta g?ngen jag anv?nder det s?tter jag in och tj?nar pengar och g?r sedan till uttag och de st?nger mitt konto. Detta ?r fel. Ingen bonus eller poromtion anv?ndes som du kan se fr?n sk?rmdumpen
Went to withdrawal winnings after playing for hours and received email that withdrawal was denied. I then received email saying account has been closed due to creating more than one account to in order to get advantage of casino promotion. I opened my account the day of withdrawal and never used any promotion or bonus. I went into my profile and declined the bonus in order to withdrawal. After reaching out to support they only say "There is no need for further action as our system has identified and addressed the issue. It has detected multiple accounts associated with your profile and has subsequently blocked all of them, including the current one." I have been playing on another online casino and never used this one before. First time I use it I deposit and make money then go to withdrawl and they close my account. This is wrong. No bonus or poromtion was used as you can see from screenshot
Tack s? mycket f?r att du skickade ditt klagom?l. Jag ?r ledsen att h?ra om ditt problem. Till?t mig att st?lla n?gra fr?gor till dig s? att jag kan f?rst? hela situationen. Finns det n?gon chans att n?gon fr?n ditt hush?ll eller som anv?nder samma IP-adress ocks? har skapat ett konto p? detta casino? Har du tillhandah?llit n?gra dokument f?r att verifiera din identitet?
Kan du skicka all relevant kommunikation mellan dig och casinot till [email protected] ? Alternativt kan du l?gga upp det h?r.
Jag hoppas att vi kommer att kunna hj?lpa dig att l?sa problemet s? snart som m?jligt. Tack s? mycket p? f?rhand f?r ditt svar.
V?nliga h?lsningar,
Kristina
Dear needhelpwithdrawl,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Is there any chance that someone from your household or using the same IP address has also created an account at this casino? Have you provided any documents to verify your identity?
Could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to [email protected]? Alternatively, you can post it here.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Hej Kristina. Tack f?r att du hj?lper till att l?sa problemet med BetPanda.
F?r att svara p? dina fr?gor ?r jag den enda i hush?llet och mitt n?tverk ?r s?kert. De har inte bett om n?gra dokument och slutat kommunicera med mig efter att jag presenterat sk?rmdumpar. Uppdatering nedan.
UPPDATERING
Efter att ha spenderat timmar p? att titta p? detta kunde jag hitta ett e-postmeddelande som sa att mitt uttag accepterades timmar innan det senare nekades.
D?rf?r kontaktade jag chattfunktionen online f?r att ta upp detta. Jag fick d? veta en annan anledning till att mitt konto st?ngdes. Det berodde p? min mejl. "Det kan vara f?rknippat med bedr?glig verksamhet".
Jag anv?nder en e-postklient som maskerar min personliga e-post f?r att ge s?kerhet och skydda mig fr?n dataintr?ng, spam och m?nga andra saker. Det st?r p? deras sida som ?r en del av de 5 pelarna som g?r dem annorlunda.
Inte bara fr?mjar de s?kerhet och integritet, det finns inget p? sidan som s?ger att detta inte ?r till?tet, vilket ?r anledningen till att jag anv?nde det. Inget meddelande av n?got slag n?r du registrerar dig och tar emot kod f?r bekr?ftelse av e-post. Det ?r faktiskt tv?rtom. P? framsidan av deras hemsida st?r det "Anonym. Anv?nd valfri e-postadress f?r att komma ig?ng p? andra sidan" Jag bifogade en sk?rmdump med omr?det markerat i r?tt.
Detta ?r s? fel och jag ?r en ?rlig person som precis testade ett nytt casino. Inga kampanjer anv?nds. Inga bonusar anv?nds. Inga andra konton har skapats. Anledningen till att jag valde den h?r sidan ?r att de har en spelautomatleverant?r som jag ?lskar att den andra sidan jag har varit medlem p? i ?ver 2 ?r inte l?ngre.
S? uppr?rande och f?rvirrande att jag har e-post och meddelande p? deras sida att mitt uttag godk?ndes. Detta kan inte vara lagligt.
Detta m?ste g?ras r?tt. De svarar inte p? mina meddelanden l?ngre. Sn?lla hj?lp mig.
E-post f?r kontoaktivering
?terkallelsebekr?ftelse
Hello Kristina. Thank you for helping resolve the issue with BetPanda.
To answer your questions, I am the only one in the household and my network is secure. They have not asked for any documents and stopped communicating with me after I presented screenshots. Update below.
UPDATE
After spending hours looking into this I was able to locate an email saying my withdrawal was accepted hours before it was later denied.
Therefore, I reached back out to the online chat feature to bring this up. I was then told a different reason why my account was closed. It was due to my email. "It may be associated with fraudulent activity".
I use an email client which masks my personal email to provide security and protect me from data breaches, spam and many other things. It is stated on their site that is part of the 5 pillars that make them different.
Not only do they promote security and privacy, there is nothing on the site that says this is not allowed, which is why I used it. No message of any sort when signing up and receiving code for confirmation of email. It is actually the opposite. On the front page of their website it says "Anonymous. Use any email address to get started in second" I attached screenshot with area highlighted in red.
This is so wrong and I am an honest person who was just trying out a new casino. No promotions used. No bonuses used. No other accounts have been created. The reason I chose this site is they have a slot provider I love that the other site I have been a member of for over 2 years no longer.
So upsetting and confusing I have email and message on their site that my withdrawal was approved. This cant be legal.
This needs to be made right. They are not responding to my messages anymore. Please help me.
Jag kunde f? tag p? kundtj?nst igen och ville f?rs?kra mig om att jag verkligen inte ?r n?got fel. H?r ?r en sk?rmdump med support som bekr?ftar att du kan registrera dig med vilken e-postadress som helst f?r att f?rbli anonym.
I was able to get ahold of customer service again and wanted to make sure I am indeed no fault. Here is a screenshot with support confirming you are able to register with any email address to remain anonymous.
Tack s? mycket, needhelpwithdrawl, f?r ditt samarbete. Jag kommer nu att ?verf?ra ditt klagom?l till min kollega Branislav ( [email protected] ) som kommer att st? till din tj?nst. Jag ?nskar dig lycka till och hoppas att problemet kommer att l?sas till din bel?tenhet inom en snar framtid.
Thank you very much, needhelpwithdrawl, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Branislav ([email protected]) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Jag ?r ledsen att h?ra om din obehagliga upplevelse. Jag kommer att kontakta casinot och g?ra mitt b?sta f?r att l?sa problemet s? snart som m?jligt. Nu skulle jag vilja bjuda in Betpanda Casinos representant att g? med i denna konversation och delta i l?sningen av detta klagom?l.
K?ra Betpanda Casino-team ,
Kan du ge oss en mer detaljerad f?rklaring av spelarens situation? Vilka ?tg?rder ska spelaren vidta f?r att ta ut de omtvistade vinsterna?
Om vi talar om ett brott mot casinots regler och villkor, kan casinot underbygga sitt beslut med relevanta bevis?
Skicka g?rna de n?dv?ndiga bevisen till min e-postadress ([email protected] ).
Tack p? f?rhand f?r att du l?mnar informationen.
Hello, needhelpwithdrawl,
I am sorry to hear about your unpleasant experience. I will contact the casino and try my best to resolve the issue as soon as possible. Now I would like to invite Betpanda Casino's representative to join this conversation and participate in the resolution of this complaint.
Dear Betpanda Casino team,
Could you please provide us with an explanation of the player's situation in more detail? What steps should the player take to withdraw the disputed winnings?
If we are talking about a breach of the casino's Terms and Conditions, is the casino able to substantiate its decision with relevant evidence?
Feel free to send the necessary evidence to my email address ([email protected]).
Thank you in advance for providing the information.
Kasinorepresentanten kontaktade mig utanf?r tr?den och gav mig ytterligare information.
F?r det f?rsta – oavsett ett e-postmeddelande eller en e-postklient som en spelare anv?nder f?r att registrera sig, har onlinekasinon verktyg f?r att uppt?cka flera konton p? andra s?tt och l?nka dem med andra parametrar.
F?r det andra - kan du sn?lla f?rklara hur det ?r m?jligt att du gl?mt bort flera andra konton som du registrerat hos casinot under flera dagar i f?ljd?
?r du medveten om att flera konton och bonusmissbruk (endast 1 v?lkomstbonus ?r till?ten per spelare/konto) inneb?r ett allvarligt brott mot casinots regler och villkor?
Dear needhelpwithdrawl,
The casino representative contacted me outside of the thread, providing me with further details.
First - regardless of an email or an email client a player uses to register, online casinos have tools to detect multiple accounts in other ways and link them by other parameters.
Second - can you please explain how it is possible that you forgot about several other accounts that you registered with the casino over several consecutive days?
Are you aware that multiple accounts and bonus abuse (only 1 welcome bonus is allowed per player/account) mean a serious violation of the casino's Terms and Conditions?
Jag gl?mde ingenting eftersom jag inte skapade ett annat konto hos betpanda. Har betpanda andra systerwebbplatser som faller under detta paraply? Det ?r det enda s?ttet jag skulle ha ett eller flera andra konton kopplade till mig. Dagen innan skapade jag ett konto via en annan webbplats som har .io.
Eftersom jag inte anv?nde n?gon v?lkomstbonus p? mitt konto ?r detta verkligen inte vettigt. Varf?r skulle jag skapa ett nytt konto att bara ha? Jag ?r medveten om att du p? alla onlinekasinon till?ts ett konto per anv?ndare. Det ?r inte meningsfullt att man skulle g?ra vad jag blir tillsagd att jag har gjort f?r att bara f?rlora pengar eftersom jag inte skulle f? g?ra uttag p? n?got n?mnda konto.
Jag ville spela en leverant?r som de har och det ?r allt. Jag gick precis igenom alla mina e-postmeddelanden igen f?r att dubbelkolla och s?ker p? att inga andra konton skapades p? min sida.
V?nligen g?r detta r?tt
I did not forget anything as I did not create another account with betpanda. Does betpanda have other sister websites that fall under this umbrella? That is the only way I would have another account or accounts associated to me. The previous day I made one account through another website that has .io.
Since I did not use any welcome bonus on my account this really doesn’t make sense. Why would I make a new Account to just have? I'm aware on any online casino you are allowed one account per user. It doesn't make sense that one would do what I am being told I have done to just lose money as I would not be allowed to withdrawal on any said account.
I wanted to play a provider which they carry and that is all. I just went through all my emails again to double check and certain no other accounts were created on my end.
Vilken exakt webbplats/casino med .io registrerade du f?rra dagen, tack?
Varf?r skulle du inte f? dra dig ur?
Du h?nvisade till informationen " Anonym. Anv?nd valfri e-postadress f?r att komma ig?ng p? andra sidan ", s? det ?r inte meningsfullt att prata om n?got som KYC l?ngre. Dessutom, om det fanns flera konton och kasinots v?lkomstbonus anv?ndes p? mer ?n 1 av dem ?r det fortfarande ett allvarligt brott.
Jag bad kasinot om n?gra fler detaljer.
Nu st?ller jag in timern f?r kasinot, och n?r jag har den n?dv?ndiga informationen kommer jag att informera dig.
Tack f?r ditt t?lamod och f?rst?else.
We do not know about any sister casino(s).
Which exact website/casino with .io did you register the previous day, please?
Why would you not be allowed to withdraw?
You referred to the information "Anonymous. Use any email address to get started in second", so it does not make sense to talk about something like KYC anymore. In addition, if there were several accounts and the casino's Welcome Bonus was used in more than 1 of them, it is still a serious breach.
I asked the casino for a few more details.
Now I am setting up the timer for the casino, and once I have the necessary information, I will inform you.
N?r jag registrerade mig l?ste jag TOS, som man m?ste g?ra innan man registrerar sig. Det st?r tydligt att anv?ndare bara kan ha ett konto.
Om denna anklagelse faktiskt var sann skulle det betyda att jag skapade ett konto efter att ha f?tt andra att tacka nej till bonusen och sedan s?tta in mina pengar och sl?sa bort timmar p? att spela. Det ?r bara dumt. Vilken nytta ?r det f?r mig?
Jag skulle vilja veta hur mitt konto ?r kopplat till andra? Genom en kryptopl?nbok? Via IP-adress?
Jag bor ensam och anv?nder en VPN som rekommenderas av Betpanda. Jag skickar och tar emot krypto flera g?nger i veckan genom min pl?nbok och mest hela tiden ?ndras adressen vid mottagning s?v?l som vid s?ndning.
Detta m?ste verkligen redas ut och g?ras r?tt p? deras sida
I do appreciate your time and help.
It was wild.io
When I signed up I read the TOS, as one needs to do before registering. It clearly states users can only have one account.
If this accusation were actually true then that would mean I made an account after making others to decline the bonus welcome, then deposit my money and waste hours playing. That's just silly. What benefit is that to me?
I would like to know how my account is associated to others? Through a crypto wallet? Through IP address?
I live alone and use a VPN as recommended by Betpanda. I send and receive crypto several times a week through my wallet and most all the time the address changes when receiving as well as when sending.
This really needs to be sorted out on and made right on their end
Vilken nytta ?r det f?r dig? En m?jlighet att fritt spela p? casinot ?ven efter tidigare ?vertr?delser, vilket inte borde ha varit m?jligt efter att ha skapat mer ?n 1 konto och missbruk av bonus. Till exempel.
Som jag n?mnde finns det andra s?tt hur onlinekasinon kan uppt?cka flera konton, och av f?rst?eliga sk?l kommer jag absolut inte att avsl?ja dem.
?ven om det verkar som att du var f?rsiktig med datamatchningarna, talar vi mycket troligt om flera konton p? just detta casino.
L?t oss v?nta p? casinots svar och bekr?ftelse/ytterligare detaljer.
What benefit is that to you? A possibility to freely play at the casino even after previous violations, which should have not been possible after creating more than 1 account and bonus abuse. For example.
As I mentioned, there are other ways how online casinos can detect multiple accounts, and for understandable reasons, I will certainly not disclose them.
Although it seems you were careful regarding the data matches, we are very likely talking about several accounts at this particular casino.
Let's please wait for the casino's response and confirmation/additional details.
Med dussintals och dussintals onlinekasinon och alla erbjuder n?gon form av bonus (vilket jag aldrig g?r n?r jag spelar med en r?ins?ttning) varf?r skulle jag medvetet skapa ett konto och s?tta in mina surt intj?nade pengar med den lilla chansen att jag inte skulle kunna uttag. Jag tycker om att spela men det ?r bara dumt och som jag sa absolut ingen f?rdel f?r mig.
Jag k?nner att jag m?ste tala om allt jag vet och hoppas att sanningen visas n?r jag anklagas f?r n?got.
Med det sagt f?rst?r jag inte Branislav, hur du som en opartisk part skulle s?ga att jag var "f?rsiktig med datamatchningar" f?r att antyda att jag f?rs?kte g?ra n?got olagligt. Jag har en ganska ok f?rst?else f?r hur internet fungerar och talade d?rf?r om min IP-adress och kryptopl?nbok s? det skulle inte s?gas att n?gon av dessa ?r problemet.
Jag skapade ett konto p? detta casino, satte in mina surt intj?nade pengar och spelade i timmar. S? enkelt ?r det.
With dozens and dozens of online casinos and all offering some sort of bonus (which I never do as I play with a raw deposit) why would I knowingly create an account and deposit my hard earned money with the slight chance I would not be able to withdrawal. I do enjoy gambling but that is just silly and as I said absolutely no benefit to me.
I feel I must speak on everything I know and in doing so hope the truth is shown as I am being accused of something.
With that being said I don't understand Branislav, how you being an impartial party would say I was "careful regarding data matches" to allude I was trying to do something illegal. I'm have a somewhat ok understanding of how the internet works and therefore spoke on my IP address and crypto wallet so it would not be said that either of those is the issue.
I created an account at this casino, deposited my hard earned money and played for hours. It's as simple as that.
Kasinots p?st?enden och beslut st?ddes av relevanta detaljer och bevis.
Efter att ha samlat in all n?dv?ndig information st?nger vi detta klagom?l som omotiverat p? grund av brott mot kasinots villkor - flera konton och bonusmissbruk.
Det fanns flera konton (inklusive ditt omtvistade konto) som skapades och anv?ndes av 1 person p? casinot som tidigare missbrukat casinots bonuserbjudande genom att anv?nda bonusar p? mer ?n 1 av de l?nkade kontona, vilket allvarligt br?t mot casinots regler. Du fick inte ?ppna mer ?n ett konto och det ?r f?rbjudet att anv?nda mer ?n 1 bonus per person/konto/anv?ndare. Tyv?rr l?nkar vissa specifika indikationer och tecken dessa konton, och d?rf?r skulle det troligen vara om?jligt att bevisa n?got annat.
Jag rekommenderar starkt att du f?ljer detta casinos och andra casinons regler och villkor i framtiden. ?ven om casinot var anonymt, vilket det inte ?r, skulle det inte betyda att du kan skapa mer ?n ett konto.
Jag ?r ledsen att vi inte kunde hj?lpa dig med detta, men tveka inte att kontakta oss i framtiden om du st?ter p? n?gra problem med detta eller n?got annat casino. Vi ?r h?r f?r att hj?lpa.
?ven om det bara ligger utanf?r tr?den, tack ocks? till Betpanda Casino Team, f?r att ge information och f?r deras samarbete.
V?nliga h?lsningar,
Branislav, www.kpvfaw.com
Dear needhelpwithdrawl,
The casino's claims and decision were supported by relevant details and evidence.
After gathering all the necessary information, we are closing this complaint as unjustified due to breaching the casino's terms and conditions - multiple accounts and bonus abuse.
There were several accounts (including your disputed account) created and used by 1 person at the casino who previously abused the casino's bonus offer by using bonuses on more than 1 of the linked accounts, which seriously breached the casino's rules. You were not allowed to open more than one account and it is forbidden to use more than 1 bonus per person/account/user. Unfortunately, some specific indications and signs link those accounts, and therefore it would be likely impossible to prove otherwise.
I strongly recommend you comply with this casino's and other casinos' Terms and Conditions in the future. Even if the casino was anonymous, which it is not, it would not mean you can create more than one account.
I am sorry we were not able to help you with this one, but please, do not hesitate to contact us in the future, if you run into any issues with this or any other casino. We are here to help.
In case of any questions, feel free to write to me at [email protected].
Although only outside of the thread, thanks also to Betpanda Casino Team, for providing information and for their cooperation.
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