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FatPirate Casino - Zahtev igra?a za zatvaranje naloga nije ispo?tovan.
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Sigurnosni indeks
Zajedno sa na?om metodologijom recenzija, mi smo izra?unali Sigurnosni indeks kazina baziran na vi?e od 20 faktora, uklju?uju?i finansije, fer Uslove i pravila, prigovore igra?a i drugo. ?to je vi?i Sigurnosni indeks, ve?e su ?anse da vam va?i dobici budu ispla?eni.
The player from the United Kingdom had requested to close her account on February 28th, but the casino did not act on her request, allowing her to continue playing and resulting in financial losses. After multiple communications regarding her gambling issues, her account was finally closed on March 27th. The Complaints Team facilitated communication with the casino, which ultimately processed a refund of £324.35 for the player's losses. The complaint was ultimately rejected, because the player did not respond to finalize the resolution.
Igra?ica iz Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva je 28. februara zatra?ila da zatvori svoj ra?un, ali kazino nije postupio po njenom zahtevu, dozvoliv?i joj da nastavi da igra, ?to je rezultiralo finansijskim gubicima. Nakon vi?estrukih komunikacija u vezi sa njenim problemima sa kockanjem, njen nalog je kona?no zatvoren 27. marta. Tim za ?albe je olak?ao komunikaciju sa kazinom, koji je na kraju obradio povra?aj od 324,35 funti za gubitke igra?a. ?alba je na kraju odbijena, jer igra? nije odgovorio da finalizuje re?enje.
Zatra?io sam da se moj nalog zatvori i dobio sam e-poruku u kojoj se tra?i potvrda u kojoj sam odgovorio da potvrdim da ?elim da se moj nalog zatvori 28. februara. Ovo nije preduzeto i jo? uvek sam mogao da nastavim da igram uprkos tome ?to sam tra?io da se moj nalog zatvori, ?to me je navelo da potro?im vi?e novca i izazove finansijski gubitak. Da li mogu da zahtevam povra?aj novca koji sam izgubio?
I asked for my account to be closed and received an email asking for confirmation in which I replied to confirm I would like my account closed on 28th February. This was not actioned and I was still able to continue playing despite asking for my account to be closed which has lead me to spend more money and cause a loss for me financially. Am I able to request a refund for the money I have lost?
Hvala vam puno ?to ste podneli ?albu. Veoma mi je ?ao ?to ?ujem za va?e negativno iskustvo.
Prvo, ?eleo bih da vam objasnim koja je razlika izme?u zatvaranja naloga i samoisklju?enja:
Zatvaranje naloga je jednostavno i nema skoro nikakav uticaj - igra? mo?e ponovo da otvori nalog u bilo kom trenutku, a kazino nema nikakvu obavezu prema igra?u.
S druge strane, samoisklju?ivanje to ?ini. Ako igra? uspe?no izvr?i samoisklju?ivanje, kazino se sla?e da ne?e otvoriti ovaj ra?un ili ako da samo pod odre?enim okolnostima
(nakon perioda hla?enja, a to se ne mo?e u?initi za igra?e koji su zavisni/sa problemom kockanja).
Mo?ete li da navedete razlog za zatvaranje naloga?
Da li je va? nalog trenutno otvoren? Da li ste ponovo zatra?ili zatvaranje va?eg naloga iz nekog konkretnog razloga?
Hvala vam puno unapred.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Tomas
Dear Jayda87,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m very sorry to hear about your negative experience.
First, I’d like to explain to you what the difference is between closing the account and self-exclusion:
Closing an account is simple and has almost no impact - the player can reopen the account anytime, and the casino has no obligation to the player.
On the other hand, self-exclusion does. If a player successfully makes a self-exclusion the casino agrees not to open this account or if yes only under particular circumstances
(after the cooling off period and this cannot be done for players who are addicted/with gambling problem).
Could you please specify the reason for closing your account?
Is your account currently open? Did you request the closure of your account again due to a specific reason?
Obavestio sam da sam ranije imao problem sa kockanjem i veb lokacija mi je zatvorila nalog.
onda sam se vratio i dozvolili su mi da ponovo otvorim svoj nalog i zamolio sam ih da ga zatvore putem e-po?te, a oni su mi poslali e-po?tu tra?e?i od mene da potvrdim da ?elim da se zatvori, na ?ta sam odgovorio da. Dok sam ?ekao da mi zatvore ra?un, jo? uvek sam mogao da napravim nekoliko depozita ?to ne bih u?inio ili mogao da uradim da je moj ra?un zatvoren.
srda?an pozdrav,
Jamie
Hi Tomas,
I made it aware that I had a gambling problem previously and the website closed my account.
i then relapsed and they allowed me to open my account again and I asked them to close it via email and they emailed me back asking me to confirm that I wanted it closed which I replied yes. Whilst waiting for them to close my account I was still able to make several deposits which I would not have done or been able to do if my account was closed.
Mo?ete li da podelite svoj zahtev za samoisklju?ivanje koji je poslat kazinu? Poslao sam dokaze da ste obavestili kazino o svom problemu sa kockanjem na moju e-po?tu [email protected]
Ako je va? nalog jo? uvek otvoren, po?aljite novi zahtev za samoisklju?ivanje kazinu.
Kada se prijavljujete za samoisklju?ivanje, jasno navedite razlog za deaktivaciju naloga i navedite vremenski period. Tako?e, imejl ?Subject" treba da bude jasno ozna?en i lako prepoznatljiv po?to kazino podr?ka prima mnogo zahteva dnevno. Ako je ozna?eno vidljivo, ima?ete ve?e ?anse da va? zahtev bude odobren ?to je pre mogu?e.
Primer:
Naslov e-po?te: Samoisklju?ivanje
Podaci o igra?u:
ime:
prezime:
Ro?enje:
Prijava u kazino:
Adresa e-po?te:
?Pozdrav podr?ka Fat Pirate,
Pi?em da vas obavestim da ?elim da budem odmah isklju?en iz ovog kazina i da trajno primam marketin?ki materijal u vezi sa kockanjem.
Razlog moje odluke je da imam problema sa kockanjem.
Potvr?ujem da mi ne?e biti dozvoljeno da poni?tim svoje samoisklju?ivanje tokom ovog perioda i da se samoisklju?enje ne mo?e ukinuti pre isteka dogovorenog perioda."
Molimo po?aljite drugu e-po?tu na [email protected] (mo?ete mi poslati CC na [email protected] u kopiji) i obave?tavajte me o svakom daljem razvoju doga?aja. Hvala unapred.
Thanks for your reply.
Could you please share your self-exclusion request sent to the casino? Sent the evidence you informed the casino about your gambling problem my email at [email protected]
If your account is still open, kindly send a new self-exclusion request to the casino.
When applying for the self-exclusion, clearly state the reason for deactivating your account and specify the time period. Also, the email "Subject" should be clearly marked and easily recognizable as the casino support receives many requests per day. If it is marked visibly you will stand a better chance of having your request granted as soon as possible.
Example:
Email subject: Self-exclusion
Player’s info:
First name:
Last name:
DOB:
Casino login:
Email address:
"Greetings Fat Pirate support,
I’m writing to inform you that I wish to be excluded immediately from this casino and from receiving any gambling-related marketing material permanently.
The reason for my decision is I am suffering from gambling problems.
I acknowledge that I will not be allowed to rescind my self-exclusion during this period and that the self-exclusion cannot be lifted before the end of the agreed period."
Please send another email to [email protected] (you can CC me at [email protected] in the copy) and keep me informed about any further developments. Thank you in advance.
Produ?avamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pru?ite asistenciju, mi ?emo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear Jayda87,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
gorenavedena e-poruka je poslata i poslao sam vam kopiju na zahtev.
poslao sam im jo? jedan e-mail 19. marta sa molbom da zatvore svoj nalog i to jo? nije preduzeto. To sada zaista uti?e na moje mentalno zdravlje i ozbiljno patim, sada sam u ogromnom finansijskom gubitku. Obavestite me o slede?im koracima ?to je pre mogu?e.
srda?an pozdrav.
Jamie
Hi Tom,
the above email has been sent and I have CC’d you in as requested.
i sent another email to them on 19th March asking to close my account and this has not yet been actioned. It is really affecting my mental health now and I am suffering severely, I am at a huge loss now financially. Please let me know the next steps as soon as possible.
Tom, veb lokacija jo? uvek nije ugasila moj nalog, jo? uvek mi ?alje promotivne e-poruke i SMS-ove i jo? uvek sam mogao da se kockam na ovoj veb stranici, gube?i jo? novca. Molim vas, mogu li hitno zatra?iti va? odgovor jer me ovo zaista poga?a
Tom, the website still has not shut down my account, is still sending me promo emails and SMS and I have STILL been able to gamble on this website, loosing further money. Please, can I ask for your response as a matter of urgency as this is really really affecting me
Hvala vam puno, Jaida87, ?to ste dali potrebne informacije. Va?u ?albu ?u sada preneti kolegi Mateju ( [email protected] ) koji ?e vam biti na usluzi. ?elim vam puno sre?e i nadam se da ?e problem biti re?en na va?e zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budu?nosti.
Thank you very much, Jayda87, for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Matej ([email protected]) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Zovem se Matej i pomaga?u vam u ovom slu?aju. Da?u sve od sebe da vam pomognem da re?ite ovaj problem ?to je pre mogu?e. Da li imate bilo kakve e-poruke ili snimak ekrana razgovora na kojima vas mo?emo videti kako obave?tavate kazino o zavisnosti od kockanja, pre e-po?te poslatog 20.3.2025?
?eleo bih da pozovem predstavnika FatPirate kazina da se pridru?i razgovoru i tako?e u?estvuje u istrazi ovog slu?aja. Da li biste mogli da pru?ite dodatne informacije u vezi sa pitanjem samoisklju?enja i razjasnite situaciju? Tako?e bih vam bio zahvalan ako nam pru?ite sve relevantne dokaze. U slu?aju osetljivih informacija mo?ete mi direktno poslati e-po?tu na [email protected] .
Hvala vam unapred na strpljenju i saradnji.
Hello Jayda87, nice to meet you!
My name is Matej, and I will be assisting you with this case. I'll do my best to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Do you have any e-mails or conversation screenshot where we can see you informing the casino about gambling addiction, prior to the e-mail sent on 20/03/2025?
I’d like to invite a representative of FatPirate Casino to join the conversation and participate in the investigation of this case as well. Could you possibly provide additional information regarding the issue with self-exclusion and clarify the situation? I would also appreciate if you can provide us with any and all relevant evidence. In case of sensitive information you can e-mail me directly at [email protected].
Thank you for your patience and cooperation in advance.
nemam nijedan snimak ekrana, ali mogu da vas uverim da sam razgovarao sa mnogim savetnicima i rekao im o svom problemu sa kockanjem, svaki od njih me je otpustio i rekao da im po?aljem e-po?tu, ?to sam i uradio mnogo puta. Bio sam ignorisan.
moj nalog je sada zatvoren nakon ?to sam ju?e razgovarao sa nekim preko tog ?askanja i objasnio im koliko ovo uti?e na mene i tek tada su me shvatili ozbiljno!
Samo se pitam sada kada je moj ra?un zatvoren, kako mogu da tra?im da mi vrate gubitke po?to sam ih molio da mi zatvore ra?un.
srda?an pozdrav,
jamie
Hi Matej,
i don’t have any screenshots but I can assure you I have spoken to many of the advisors and told them of my gambling issue, I got dismissed by every one of them and got told to email them, which I did many times. I was ignored.
my account has now been closed after speaking to someone via that chat yesterday and explaining to them how much this is affecting me and they only then took me seriously!
just wondering now that my account is closed, how I can look in to getting my losses returned back to me since begging them to close my account.
Po?tovani Jaida87 , bez ikakvog dokaza (snimke ekrana va?ih razgovora sa agentima za ?askanje u?ivo, ili komunikacije putem e-po?te) bi?e nemogu?e bilo ?ta dokazati. U dokazima koje ste dali, spomenuli ste samo zatvaranje ra?una dok ne zatra?ite ponovno otvaranje. To se smatra kao redovno zatvaranje naloga i stoga ne mo?emo da zahtevamo povra?aj novca od kazina.
Zvani?no, 27.03.2025. zatra?ili ste pravilno samoisklju?ivanje, a nalog je zatvoren slede?eg dana, ?to je veoma pohvalno na strani kazina.
Me?utim, imamo problem sa poni?tavanjem bilansa po zatvaranju ra?una, jer je to pravilo krajnje nepravedno i protivno na?em Kodeksu fer kockanja . Mo?ete li potvrditi koliko ste pravog novca imali na ra?unu 28.03.2025.
Hvala vam na brzom odgovoru, FatPirate Casino , veoma cenjeno! Mo?ete li da potvrdite da je nalog zatvoren i ozna?en kao ?zatvoren zbog zavisnosti od kockanja" bez opcije za ponovno otvaranje i da ?e prestati i sva marketin?ka komunikacija? U slu?aju da je postojao stanje na ra?unu na dan zatvaranja, da li biste razmotrili refundiranje navedenog iznosa igra?u? I na kraju, da li biste razmotrili brisanje termina koji navodi da je po zatvaranju ra?una sav saldo poni?ten - ili ga barem promenite za po?tenu verziju?
Dear Jayda87, without any proof (screenshots of your conversations with live chat agents, or e-mail communication) it will be impossible to prove anything. In the evidence you provided, you have only mentioned closing the account until you request re-opening. That classes as a regular account closure and thus we can't request a refund from the casino.
Officially, you have requested a proper self-exclusion on 27/03/2025, and the account has been closed the next day, which is very commendable on the casino's side.
However, we do have a problem with the voiding of the balance upon account closure, as that rule is extremely unfair and against our Fair Gambling Codex. Can you please confirm how much real money did you have on your account on 28/03/2025?
Thank you for the quick response, FatPirate Casino, much appreciated! Could you please confirm the account has been closed and marked as "closed due to gambling addiction" without an option for re-opening and that all marketing communication will cease as well? In case there was a balance on the account at the day of closure, would you consider refunding said amount to the player? And lastly, would you consider deleting the term stating that upon account closure all balance is void - or at least change it for a fair version?
Poslao sam e-mail kako je Tomas savetovao pre dve nedelje da fatpirate 20. marta (pogledajte fotografiju u prilogu) u kojoj jasno stoji da imam problema sa kockanjem.
Tra?io sam ovo putem ?askanja i re?eno mi je da po?aljem e-po?tu, ali sam ljubazno rekao agentu da sam to uradio. Jo? uvek nisam dobio odgovor. Zatim sam ponovo poslao e-po?tu 23. marta i kontaktirao drugog agenta putem ?askanja u?ivo, rekav?i im da mi treba hitna pomo? pri zatvaranju naloga.
Poslao sam istu e-po?tu nekoliko puta 24. - i dalje me ignori?u i agenti su mi rekli da moram da po?aljem e-po?tu.
slao sam imejl obojici i [email protected]. Poslao sam fotografije dokaza putem e-po?te.
Za to vreme, nakon ?to sam jasno rekao putem e-po?te i ?askanja u?ivo da imam problem sa kockanjem i da to ozbiljno uti?e na moje zdravlje, uspeo sam da napravim depozite ?to nije trebalo da bude dozvoljeno.
Moj nalog je zatvoren tek 27. (nedelju dana kasnije) nakon ?to sam rekao agentu u ?askanju u?ivo da sam izuzetno ranjiv i da ne?to treba da se uradi sada pre nego ?to se nanese dodatna ?teta.
Da li je normalno da me ignori?u nedelju dana uprkos tome ?to sam izri?ito rekao da imam zavisnost od kockanja i da je to hitna stvar i rekao nekoliko agenata putem ?askanja?
Napravio sam preko 100 funti depozita nakon ?to sam tra?io da se moj ra?un trajno zatvori, o ?emu rado pru?am dokaz, o ?emu bi fatpirat tako?e trebalo da ima dokaz.
srda?an pozdrav,
Jamie
Hi Matej,
I sent an email as advised by Tomas two weeks ago to fatpirate on the 20th March (see photo attached) clearly stating I have gambling problems.
i chased this up via chat and was told to send an email but kindly told the agent I have done this. I still did not get a response. I then sent the email again on 23rd March and contacted another agent via live chat, telling them I need urgent help closing my account.
I sent the same email several times on the 24th - still getting ignored and being told by agents that I need to email.
During this time, after clearly stating via email and live chat that I have a gambling issue and it is causing a severe affect to my health I was able to make deposits which should not have been allowed.
My account was only closed on the 27th (one week after) after I told an agent in the live chat that I was extremely vulnerable and something needs to be done now before further harm is caused.
Is it normal to be ignored for a week despite explicitly stating I have a gambling addiction and it is an urgent matter and telling several agents via the chat?
I made over £100 deposits after asking for my account to be permanently closed, which I am happy to provide proof of, which fatpirate should also have proof of too.
Uz moju prethodnu e-po?tu, prilo?io sam kopiju mojih izjava koje odra?avaju depozite koje sam dao, a koje nije trebalo dozvoliti nakon datuma kada sam zatra?io da se moj nalog trajno zatvori kao stvar hitno zbog problema sa kockanjem. Ukupni depoziti iznose £
324.35
Further to my previous email, I have attached a copy of my statements reflecting the deposits that I made which should not have been allowed to happen after the date in which I asked for my account to be closed permanently as a matter of urgency due to my gambling issue. The deposits total to an amount of £
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritu?bu. Produ?ujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predvi?enom roku, prigovo ?emo zatvoriti kao "nere?en", ?to mo?e negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Hvala vam na a?uriranju, FatPirate tim , obavestite nas ?im se ra?un zatvori i kakav je va? stav o tra?enom povra?aju sredstava. Hvala.
Thank you for the update, FatPirate Team, please let us know as soon as the account has been closed, and what is your stance on the requested refund. Thanks.
Po?tovani Jaida87 , ako mo?ete da odgovorite na e-mail kazina, a zatim da nas a?urirate sa trenutnim statusom ?albe, to bi bilo veoma zahvalno :)
Dear Jayda87, if you can reply to the casino's e-mail and then update us here with the current status of the complaint, that would be much appreciated :)
Pored ponude za iznos refundiranja, ljubazno vas molim da preispitate iznos koji ?e biti bli?i stvarnim gubicima nakon moje hitne e-po?te da trajno zatvorim svoj nalog. To je izazvalo zna?ajne finansijske pote?ko?e i emocionalnu ?tetu i ljubazno molim da se to razmotri.
Stvarni iznos gubitaka koji sam izra?unao gde je 324,35£.
srda?an pozdrav,
Jamie
Hello, I have sent the following email in response -
Hello,
Thank you for you reaching out to me.
Further to the offer to the refund amount, I kindly ask that you reconsider the amount to meet closer to the actual losses following my urgent email to permanently close my account. It has caused significant financial hardship and emotional damage and I kindly ask for this to be considered.
The actual amount of losses I calculated where £324.35.
Zdravo Matej, prilo?io sam kopiju mojih izjava od pre nedelju dana koje odra?avaju depozite upla?ene posle 20. marta kada sam poslao zvani?nu e-po?tu da trajno zatvorim svoj nalog. Da li ?elite da vam ih ponovo pru?im?
Hi Matej, I attached a copy of my statements here one week ago reflecting the deposits made after the 20th March when I sent an official email to close my account permanently. Would you like me to provide these again?
Ako su to bili va?i poslednji depoziti, onda nema potrebe da ih ponovo ?aljete. Osim ako niste deponovali vi?e, posle 28. marta. U suprotnom, sa?eka?emo odgovor kazina. U slu?aju da odgovore na va? e-mil, a ne ovde, bio bih vam zahvalan ako biste mogli da stavite red ili dva ovde, sa a?uriranjem. :)
If those were your last deposits, then there is no need to re-sending them. Unless you have deposited more, after the 28th March. Otherwise, we will wait for the casino's response. In case they reply to your e-mil and not here, I would appreciate if you could drop a line or two here, with an update. :)
Produ?avamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pru?ite asistenciju, mi ?emo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear Jayda87,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Na?alost, Jaida87 nije odgovorio na moje poruke i pitanja. Shodno tome, nisam u mogu?nosti da dalje istra?ujem i potvrdim da sam primio povra?aj novca, tako da nemam izbora osim da odbijem ovu ?albu. ?eleo bih da se jo? jednom zahvalim FatPirate timu na brzom re?avanju ovog problema. Igra? mo?e ponovo da otvori ovu ?albu u bilo kom trenutku, ako je potrebno.
Unfortunately, Jayda87 has not responded to my messages and questions. Consequently, I am unable to investigate further and confirm receiving the refund, hence having no choice but to reject this complaint. I would like to once again thank the FatPirate Team for prompt dealing with this issue. The player can re-open this complaint at any time, if needed.
www.kpvfaw.com je nezavistan izvor informacija o online kazinima i online kazino igrama, i nije kontrolisan od strane bilo kojeg operatora igara ili bilo koje druge institucije. Sve na?e recenzije i vodi?i su kreirani iskreno, u skladu sa najboljim znanjem i rasu?ivanjem na?ih ?lanova iz ekspertskog tima; ipak ovaj sadr?aj je napravljen u informativne svrhe i ne bi smeo i trebao da se tuma?i kao pravni savet. Bitno je da uvek ispunite sve regulatorne zahteve pre nego po?nete igrati u odre?enom kazinu.