NaslovnaPritu?beMrWest Casino - Povla?enje igra?a je ozbiljno odlo?eno.
MrWest Casino - Povla?enje igra?a je ozbiljno odlo?eno.
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Zajedno sa na?om metodologijom recenzija, mi smo izra?unali Sigurnosni indeks kazina baziran na vi?e od 20 faktora, uklju?uju?i finansije, fer Uslove i pravila, prigovore igra?a i drugo. ?to je vi?i Sigurnosni indeks, ve?e su ?anse da vam va?i dobici budu ispla?eni.
The player from Ireland faced significant difficulties withdrawing funds from West Casino, having requested a withdrawal three months prior. Despite providing multiple passport photos while following the casino's instructions for KYC, they continued to request new photos with unedited metadata. The player was frustrated and claimed this was a recurring issue with the casino. The issue with West Casino was resolved, and the complaint was marked as such by the Complaints Team.
Igra? iz Irske se suo?io sa zna?ajnim pote?ko?ama prilikom povla?enja sredstava iz Vest kazina, po?to je zatra?io povla?enje tri meseca ranije. Uprkos tome ?to je pru?io vi?e fotografija za paso?, prate?i uputstva kazina za KYC, nastavili su da tra?e nove fotografije sa neobra?enim metapodacima. Igra? je bio frustriran i tvrdio je da je ovo problem sa kazinom koji se stalno ponavlja. Problem sa Vest kazinom je re?en, a ?alba je ozna?ena kao takva od strane Tima za ?albe.
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MR Vest aka (Zapadni kazino – za koje sam otkrio da imaju istoriju ovoga i ostavljaju igra?e van svog d?epa).
Do?iveo sam najgore iskustvo u ?ivotu sa bilo kojim kazinom koji poku?ava da ostvari KIC. Dokaz adrese je verifikovan (fotografija snimljena mojim iPhone-om). Ali moj paso? stalno tra?e fotografije snimljene sa neure?enim metapodacima (nisam znao ?ta je ovo).
Poslali smo ukupno oko 8 slika za paso?. Ju?e sam sledio njihova uputstva. Snimio sam sliku, odmah postavio na sajt i imejl i poslao im e-po?tu, a tako?e sam napravio snimak ekrana informacija o fotografijama (metapodataka) na svom telefonu.
Danas su se ponovo vratili sa istim 'Novim slikama sa neure?enim metapodacima). To je besna. Poslao sam im vezu na mre?i koja obja?njava svaki put kada otpremite sliku u imejl promene metapodataka. Pro?itao sam stare pritu?be ovde i oni su to uradili veoma velikom broju igra?a kao VEST CASINO ranije. ?ak vidim da su izvedeni na sud.
Rekao sam da mogu da snimim video ako ?ele, ali oni me ignori?u.
Molim vas pomozite. Prosledi?u sve mejlove i fotografije koje sam napravio i poslao i CG ?e mo?i da pogleda metapodatke.
MR West aka (West Casino - Who I have discovered have a history of this and have left a wake of players out of pocket).
Having the worst experience of my life with any casino trying to KYC. Proof of address verified (Photo taken with my iphone). But my passport they keep asking for photos taken with unedited metadata (didn't know what this was).
Have sent in a total of about 8 passport pics. Yesterday I followed their instructions. I took the picture, uploaded immediately to the site and email and emailed them and also took a screenshot of the photos information (metadata) on my phone.
Again today they came back with the same 'New pics with unedited metadata). It's infuriating. I sent them a link online that explained whenever you upload a pic to an email metadata changes. I have read through old complaints on here and they did this to soooo many players as WEST CASINO before. I even see they were taken to court.
I have said I can do a video if they want but they ignore me.
Please help. I will forward all the emails and photos I have taken and sent them and CG can look at metadata.
Hvala vam puno ?to ste podneli ?albu i zaista mi je ?ao ?to ?ujem za va? problem sa MrVest kazinom. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim jo? nekoliko pitanja pre nego ?to krenemo dalje.
Mo?ete li molim vas da nam ka?ete od kada je ta?no proces verifikacije u toku?
Koji dokumenti su ve? odobreni, a koji ne?
Kada ste poslednji put razgovarali sa kazinom i o ?emu se radilo?
Imajte na umu da proces verifikacije mo?e potrajati do 14 dana nakon slanja svih tra?enih dokumenata.
Radujem se va?em odgovoru.
pozdrav,
Nick
Hello sageirsword,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with MrWest Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.
Could you please advise since when exactly is the verification process ongoing?
Which documents have been already approved and which ones not?
When was the last time you spoke to the casino and what was it about?
Please note that the verification process may take up to 14 days after sending in all the requested documents.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
Nick
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Nema veze sa vremenskim ograni?enjima. To je caisno koji namerno poku?ava da koristi KIC kao metod odlaganja povla?enja. Nazovimo PIK POM.
1 – Nalog je u potpunosti verifikovan sa li?nim dokumentom, selfijem, dokazom adrese i skrilom.
2 - Osvojio sam 640 evra. Zatra?io sam povla?enje.
3 - Odjednom mi je potrebna dodatna verifikacija (?udno da dalja verifikacija nije bila potrebna za deponovanje...). Njima treba DRUGI li?ni dokument i ja dr?im selfi sa dokumentom. Sve sam ovo poslao po?to imam drugi paso? za ?vedsku.
4 - Dobio sam ovu apsurdnu e-po?tu -
Dragi igra?e!
Hvala vam ?to ste dali jedinstvenu fotografiju.
Zbog sve ve?eg broja poku?aja prevare na internetu, nastojimo da primenimo sve mogu?e mere kako bismo o?uvali sigurnost sredstava na?ih klijenata.
Da biste nastavili sa dodatnom procedurom verifikacije, snimite kratak video o samoidentifikacije uz svoj dokument (paso?). Molimo pripremite svoj dokument i komad papira sa rukom ispisanim datumom snimanja i nazivom na?eg proizvoda.
Stvari koje morate da uradite u videu:
1. Recite svoje puno ime i prezime, datum snimanja videa na prednjoj kameri i da je ovaj video posve?en dodatnom procesu verifikacije na sajtu na?e kompanije.
2. Poka?ite ?ta je oko vas, kako bismo se uverili da nema tre?ih lica u blizini.
3. Mahnite rukom ispred lica nekoliko sekundi da biste bili sigurni da ne koristite softver za ure?ivanje lica.
4. Poka?ite da dr?ite svoj dokument i papir sa dana?njim datumom, imenom na?eg proizvoda.
5. Da biste bili sigurni da je va? dokument originalan, uklonite par?e papira i poka?ite dokument blizu kamere, rotiraju?i ga pod razli?itim uglovima kako bismo mogli da vidimo trep?u?e holograme i vodene ?igove na va?em dokumentu.
Srda?an pozdrav,
BetSofa odeljenje za verifikaciju
5 – Ja snimam video i ?aljem sve. Tako?e ?aljem snimke ekrana koji pokazuju moj ID i nalog verifikovan preko SUMSUB-a (po?to svi znamo softver tre?e strane koji pokre?e AI koji koristi 1000 preduze?a koji otkriva la?ne dokumente). Ovo je bilo iz drugog kazina koji koristi SUMSUB.
Nema povla?enja i radio ti?ine. Znate kao i ja da se kazino pona?a neprikladno i samo zato ?to sam osvojio novac.
Its nothing to do with time limits. It's the caisno purposefully attempting to use KYC as a method of delaying the withdrawal. Let's call a SPADE a SPADE.
1 - Account was fully verified with ID, selfie, proof of address and skrill.
2 - I won €640. I requested the withdrawal.
3 - Suddenly I need further verification (odd the further verification wasn't required for depositing...). They need a SECOND ID document and me holding a selfie with the document. I sent all this as I have a second passport for sweden.
4 - I get this absurd email -
Dear Player!
Thank you for providing a unique photo.
Due to increasing fraud attempts on the internet, we are looking to enforce all possible measures to keep our customers’ funds secure.
In order for you to proceed with the additional verification procedure, please record a short self-identification video with your document (passport). Please prepare your document and a piece of paper with the handwritten date of recording and our product's name.
Things you must perform in the video:
1. Say your full name, date of recording the video on the front camera, and that this video is dedicated to the additional verification process on our company's website.
2. Show what is around you, so that we can make sure there are no third parties nearby.
3. Wave your hand in front of your face for several seconds to make sure you are not using any face-editing software.
4. Show yourself holding your document, and a paper with today's date our product's name.
5. To make sure your document is genuine, please remove a piece of paper and show your document close to the camera, rotating it at different angles so we can see blinking holograms and watermarks on your document.
Best Regards,
BetSofa Verification Department
5 - I do the video and send it all in. I also send screenshots showing my ID and account verified via SUMSUB (as we all know the AI powered third party software used by 1000's of businesses that detects fake documents). This was from a different casino that uses SUMSUB.
No withdrawal and radio silence. You know as well as I do the casino is acting inappropriately and only because I won money.
Drago mi je da ?ujem da je va? problem sa gospodinom Vestom re?en.
Ozna?i?u ?albu kao re?enu.
Imajte na umu da ako imate problem sa drugim kazinom, morate da podnesete novu ?albu.
Kao ?to znate, ne napla?ujemo na?e usluge, niti prihvatamo bak?i?. Me?utim, bili bismo vam veoma zahvalni ako biste odvojili trenutak da podelite svoje iskustvo sa na?im uslugama na Trustpilot-u https://www.trustpilot.com/evaluate/www.kpvfaw.com . Va?a iskrena recenzija i svi predlozi za pobolj?anje na?eg procesa re?avanja ?albi i medijacije bili bi neprocenjivi. Va?e povratne informacije bi tako?e mogle pomo?i drugima koji razmi?ljaju da nas kontaktiraju za pomo? u vezi sa problemima vezanim za onlajn kazino.
Unapred vam hvala na vremenu.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Kazino Guru
Hello sageirsword,
I'm glad to hear that your issue with MrWest has been resolved.
I will be marking the complaint as resolved.
Please note that if you have an issue with a different casino, you have to submit a new complaint.
As you know, we do not charge for our services, nor do we accept any gratuities. However, we would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to share your experience with our services on Trustpilot https://www.trustpilot.com/evaluate/www.kpvfaw.com. Your honest review and any suggestions for improving our complaint resolution and mediation process would be invaluable. Your feedback could also assist others who are considering contacting us for help with online casino-related issues.
Ponovo smo otvorili ovu ?albu na zahtev korisnika sageirsword. ?eleli bismo da ovom slu?aju pru?imo jo? jednu ?ansu da se re?i i pomognemo obema stranama da do?u do zadovoljavaju?eg zaklju?ka.
We’ve reopened this complaint at the request of sageirsword. We would like to allow this case one more chance to be resolved and help both parties involved to reach a satisfactory conclusion.
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U prilogu je snimak ekrana svega ?to je poslednji put poslato.
Mo?ete li mi poslati svoju imejl adresu kako bih vam prosledio video koji sam snimio preuzimaju?i izvod iz banke sa svog ra?una i otpremaju?i ga kako bih pokazao da nisu promenjeni metapodaci itd.
Attached is the screenshot of the everything last sent.
Can you send me your email so I can forward you the live video I took downloading the bank statement from my account and uploading to show no metadata etc was changed.
Molimo vas da komunikaciju izme?u vas i kazina MrWest u vezi sa ovim slu?ajem prosledite na [email protected] kao i trenutno nemamo informacije ?ta kazino zahteva od vas.
?ekam va? odgovor.
S po?tovanjem,
Nik
Dear sageirsword,
Please forward the communication between you and MrWest casino related to this case to [email protected] as well as we have currently no information what is the casino requiring from you.
Awaiting your response.
Regards,
Nick
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Ovo su tra?ili (ali sa li?nom kartom) pre nekoliko meseci. Morao sam da snimim video kako slikam i otpremam sliku na telefon zbog toga, a oni su stalno govorili da su ?metapodaci" izmenjeni. Prihvatili su video i imao sam uplate i isplate. Tako?e su prethodno verifikovali moj ra?un za komunalne usluge (to dobijam samo po?iljkom).
Zatim su tra?ili pdf ra?una ili izvoda iz banke.
Dakle, morao sam da snimim video koji prikazuje kako preuzimam izvod direktno iz banke, otpremam ga na imejl i ?aljem.
??This is what they requested (but with ID) months ago. I had to do a video of me taking the pic and uploading it on my phone for that as well as they kept saying 'metadata' was altered. They accepted the video and I had deposits and withdrawals. They had also previously verified my utility bill (I only get this posted).
They then asked for pdf of bill or bank statement.
So I have had to do the video showing me downloading the statement direct from my bank and uploading to email and sending.
Da li imate komunikaciju od pre nekoliko meseci, jer izgleda da je ovaj imejl poslat pre manje od nedelju dana?
Pored toga, mo?ete li nam re?i da li ste im ponovo prosledili dokumenta nakon ovog zahteva?
S po?tovanjem,
Nik
Dear sageirsword,
Do you have the communication from months ago as it seems this e-mail was sent less then a week ago.
Additionally, can you please advise if you did forward them the documents again after this request?
Regards,
Nick
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Video na kojem preuzimam PDF ra?un i ?aljem ga putem e-po?te je poslat u kazino!
Pogledajte ih ovde.
Evo imejla koji su poslali pre skoro dva meseca u kojem se navodi da je nalog potvr?en.
Sada danas! PONOVO su mi otkazali isplatu i sada tra?e slede?e...
Za?to su tra?ili pdf izvod iz banke kao dokaz o adresi ako sada tra?e dokaz o adresi pored mog lica na selfiju?
Za?to su mi verifikovali nalog pre nekoliko meseci samo da bi me naterali da pro?em kroz ovo?
*TAKO?E, ve? sam dostavio dva selfija kada su mi prvobitno verifikovali nalog?
Ovo je bio moj odgovor njima. Nisu odgovorili ni na jedan od mojih imejlova.
The video of me downloading the PDF bill and sending the pdf bill via email have been sent to the casino!
See them here.
Here is the email they sent almost two months ago saying the account was validated.
Now today! They have cancelled my withdrawal AGAIN and now requested the below...
Why did they request the pdf bank statement as proof of address if they are now requesting a proof of address next to my face in a selfie?
Why did they verify my account months ago now just to put me through this?
*ALSO, I already supplied two selfies when they verified my account originally?
This was my response to them. They have not responded to one of my emails.
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Tako?e, iznos na ra?unu je 530 evra.
Also the amount in the account is €530
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Upravo su mi poslali ovaj imejl i ovo je bio moj odgovor.
Imejlovi postaju veoma kontradiktorni, skoro kao da ih ?alju dve razli?ite osobe. Tako?e ne komentari?u koji dokaz o adresi je potreban, da li je moj izvod iz banke (sa video snimkom na kojem ga preuzimam) prihva?en?
Nakon ?to su obavili jo? malo istra?ivanja, ova kompanija je stari ?West Casino", bukvalno su izba?eni sa Malte i njihova MGA licenca je oduzeta zbog upravo ovog pona?anja!
They just sent me this email and this was my response.
The emails are becoming very conflicting, almost like they are being sent from two different people. They are also not commenting on which proof of address is needed, if my bank statement (with video of me downloading it) was accepted?
Having done some more research this company is the old 'West Casino' they were literally thown out of Malta and their MGA license revoked for this exact behaviour!
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Tako?e, zbog konteksta i da bih pokazao nivoe koje sam morao da pro?em da bi mi ranije rekli da sam verifikovan, prilo?en je snimak ekrana na kojem snimam video kako slikam paso?, a zatim ga direktno otpremam na imejl i ?aljem na Zapad.
To je bilo zato ?to su stalno govorili da menjam metapodatke kada sam slikao. ?to nisam menjao i nisam ?ak ni znao ?ta je to dok mi nisu rekli
Also for context and to show the levels I have had to go to previously be told I was veirfied, attached is screenshot of me doing a video of me taking a passport pic and then uploading it straight to email and sending to west.
This was because they kept saying I was changing the metadata when I took the picture. Which I was not and didn't even know what it was until they sai
Hvala sageirsword na svim informacijama koje si mi pru?io. Sada ?u proslediti tvoju ?albu kolegi Kubu ( [email protected] ) koji ?e vam od sada pomagati.
?elim vam puno sre?e u re?avanju.
S po?tovanjem,
Nik
Thank you sageirsword for all the information provided. I will now forward your complaint to my colleague Kubo ([email protected]) who will be assisting you from now on.
Wish you best luck resolving it.
Regards,
Nick
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Hvala vam!
Thank you!
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Samo da a?uriram komunikaciju. Kazino je i dalje izuzetno nejasan.
Just to update the communications. Casino is still being extremely unclear.
Drago mi je ?to smo se upoznali putem e-po?te. Zovem se Kubo i ja ?u se baviti va?om ?albom ubudu?e.
Ako je bilo nekih novosti ili de?avanja od va?e poslednje poruke, slobodno ih podelite sa mnom.
U skladu sa na?om standardnom procedurom, ?eleo bih da pozovem predstavnika kazina MrWest da se pridru?i ovom razgovoru. Njihovo u?e??e ?e pomo?i da se obezbedi lak?e i efikasnije re?avanje va?eg slu?aja.
Po?tovani gospodine Vest Kazino ,
Mo?ete li ljubazno da pru?ite detaljne informacije u vezi sa problemom igra?a? Konkretno, bio bih vam zahvalan ako biste mogli da razjasnite razloge ka?njenja u obradi verifikacije i povla?enja igra?a.
Unapred hvala na saradnji i brzom odgovoru.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Kubo
Dear sageirsword,
It’s a pleasure to e-meet you. My name is Kubo, and I’ll be handling your complaint moving forward.
If there have been any updates or new developments since your last message, please don’t hesitate to share them with me.
In accordance with our standard procedure, I’d like to invite a representative from MrWest Casino to join this conversation. Their participation will help ensure a smoother and more efficient resolution of your case.
Dear MrWest Casino,
Could you kindly provide detailed information regarding the player's issue? Specifically, I would appreciate it if you could clarify the reasons behind the delay in processing the player's verification and withdrawal.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation and prompt response.
Best regards,
Kubo
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Samo da a?uriram, u prilogu je poslednji imejl koji sam poslao gospodinu Vestu. Poslat pre 8 dana. Nema odgovora.
Tako?e sam im prosledio ovu ?albu kako bismo mogli da posredujemo i re?imo je.
Just to update, attached is the last email I sent back to Mr West. Sent 8 days ago. No response.
I have also forwarded them this complaint so we can mediate and resolve.
Koliko ja vidim, ka?njenje je zbog ?injenice da igra? ne sara?uje sa na?im timom i ne dostavlja tra?ena dokumenta.
Za referencu, evo ?ta je tra?eno od igra?a:
Fotografija novog dokumenta kao dokaza o adresi (ovo mora biti druga?iji dokument, ne onaj koji je prethodno dostavljen) izdatog u poslednja 3 meseca, na kojem je navedeno ime igra?a, puna ku?na adresa i jasan datum izdavanja. Za ovaj konkretni odeljak prihvataju se slede?i tipovi dokumenata: ra?un za struju, ra?un za gas, ra?un za vodu, izvod iz banke ili poreski izvod;
Selfi igra?a koji dr?i dokaz o adresi - ovo mora biti novi dokaz o adresi koji je tra?en;
Selfi igra?a koji dr?i paso? pored lica.
Ove podatke je potrebno direktno otpremiti na profil igra?a u kazinu ili poslati imejlom na .
Molimo vas da imate u vidu da prihvatamo samo originalne fotografije, sa kompletnim EXIF ??informacijama koje su dostupne - ure?aj koji je kori??en za snimanje fotografija, datum kada su snimljene i ostale relevantne informacije.
Fotografije treba da budu jasne i svi detalji, uklju?uju?i pozadinu dokumenta, treba da budu jasno vidljivi.
?to se ti?e imejla koji je igra? prilo?io u prethodnom odgovoru, imajte u vidu da je Adresa se koristi isklju?ivo za prijem dokumenata i obave?tavanje igra?a nakon ?to budu pregledani. Za sva pitanja ili nedoumice, igra? ?e morati da kontaktira korisni?ku podr?ku putem e-po?te ili ?askanja u?ivo.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
?ef za korisni?ko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear Kubo,
From what I see the delay is due to the fact the player isn't cooperating with our team and providing the requested documents.
For reference, here is what was requested from the player:
Photo of a new Proof of Address document (this needs to be different document, not one previously provided) issued in the last 3 months, showing the player's name, full home address and a clear date of issue. For this specific section the following document types are accepted: electricity bill, gas bill, water bill, bank statement or tax statement;
Selfie of the player holding the Proof of Address - this needs to be the new Proof of Address that was requested;
Selfie of the player holding the passport next to his face.
These need to be uploaded directly to the player's casino profile or sent by email to [email protected].
Kindly note that we only accept the original photos taken, with the complete EXIF information available - showing the device used to take the photos, the date when they were taken and the other relevant information.
Photos should be clear and all the details, including the document background should be clearly visible.
Regarding the email the player attached a screenshot of in the previous reply, please note that the [email protected] address is strictly used to receive documents and inform players once they are reviewed. For any questions or concerns the player will need to contact customer support by email or Live Chat.
Warm regards,
Eva Stone
Head of Customer Experience
MrWest Casino
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Zdravo,
Kako ne sara?ujem? Slao sam vam imejlove vi?e puta tokom 8 dana. Tako?e ste propustili odgovore na moja pitanja, a ovo su OPET isti kopirani i nalepljeni odgovori koje dobijam imejlom.
Ponovo ?u PITATI i PONOVO ukazati na gore navedene dokaze.
1 - Prethodno sam otpremio dokaz o adresi (ra?un za komunalije - objavljeno. Poslao sam sliku). Ovo je verifikovano zajedno sa mojim li?nim dokumentom i prethodnim selfijem (zato je prilo?ena e-po?ta od vas u kojoj se ka?e da je moj ra?un verifikovan). Zatim sam imao isplate i uplate bez problema. Prilikom slede?eg isplate, tra?ili ste sve ove nove stvari. Moj novi dokaz o adresi ste tra?ili u PDF formatu. Tako da sam preuzeo svoj bankovni izvod direktno iz moje AIB kancelarije. Snimio sam svoj ekran dok to radim i otpremio ga na svoju e-po?tu i poslao vam ga u realnom vremenu. (Morao sam ranije da uradim ISTO sa li?nim dokumentom jer ste stalno govorili da sam promenio metapodatke na njemu. Nisam). Da li je moj AIB bankovni izvod prihva?en? Ako nije, za?to? Prethodno ste u e-po?tama tra?ili da selfi sa dokazom o adresi bude isti. Sada gore ka?ete druga?iji? Imam samo ra?un za komunalije i bankovni izvod. Imam i telefonski ra?un za svoja tri telefona? Koji dokaz o adresi vam je potreban i koji selfi vam je potreban uz njega?
2- Ve? sam postavio selfi na kojem dr?im paso?? Uvek ka?e? da su metapodatci promenjeni? ?ta mogu da uradim?
Mogu da snimim video i da vam ga postavim ako ?elite? Da li bi vam ovo pomoglo? Ili mogu da obavim video poziv? Nisam siguran u ?emu su problemi ovde jer sam prethodno bio verifikovan i povla?enja novca nisu bila problem. Sada ste odjednom po?eli da se pona?ate veoma nejasno i onemogu?avate verifikaciju uprkos tome ?to sam poslao svu dokumentaciju (i vi?e!), ali vi stalno tvrdite da nisu u pravu...
Otpremam sve ?to sam prethodno naveo u ovoj temi (i ?to je verifikovano) da bi Casinoguru mogao da vidi. (Ne mogu da otpremim svoj izvod iz banke jer je u PDF formatu ili video snimke. Ali sam ih poslao CG imejlom).
Tako?e sam obavestio kazino da sam u procesu selidbe iz Irske nazad u ?vedsku (zaustavljam se u Velikoj Britaniji zbog majke) zbog porodi?ne bolesti, tako da ?e mi nalog biti potrebno a?uriran ili zatvoren.
Hello,
How am I not cooperating? I have emailed you mutliple times over 8 days. You have also missed out responses to my questions and this is AGAIN the same copy and paste responses I am getting by email.
I will ASK again, and AGAIN point to evidence above.
1 - I previously uploaded a proof of address (Utility Bill - Posted. Sent a picture) This was verified along with my ID and previous selfie (Hence the attached email from you saying my account was verified). I then had withdrawals and deposits no issues. On a subsequent withdrawal you then asked for all these new things. My new proof of address you asked for in PDF. So I downloaded my bank statement directly from my AIB back office. I recorded my screen of me doing this and uploading it to my email and sending it to you in real time. (I had to do THIS SAME THING with ID previously as you kept saying I had changed meta on it. I had not). Has my AIB bank statement been accepted? If not then why? You previously requested in emails that the selfie holding the proof of address needs to be the same one. Now you say above different one? I only have my utility Bill and my bank statement. I have a phone bill as well for my three phone? Which proof of address do you need and which selfie do you need with it?
2- I already provided a selfie of me holding my passport? You always say meta is changed? What can I do?
I can record a video and upload it to you if you like? Would this help? Or I can do a video call? I am not sure of the issues here as I was previously verified and withdrawals were no issue. You have now suddenly begun to act in a very obtuse way and making it impossible to verify despite me sending in all the docs (and more!) but you keep claiming they are wrong...
I am uploading everything I have previously provided in this thread (and were verified) for Casinoguru to see. (I cannot upload my bank statement as it's pdf or the videos. But I have sent these to CG on email).
I have also informed the casino I am in the midst of moving from Ireland back to Sweden (stopping in UK for my mother) due to family illness, so will need the account updated or closed.
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Samo dodajem gde su naveli da dokaz o adresi mora biti u PDF formatu, a istovremeno je potreban i selfi sa njim...
Just adding where they stated the proof of address needed to be in PDF format, whilst simultaneously needing a selfie with it....
Prema dostupnim informacijama, igra? je ve? dostavio tra?ena dokumenta u skladu sa va?im zahtevima. Fotografije su tako?e vidljive u temi ?albi, sa izuzetkom tra?enog selfija na kojem se nalazi dokaz o adresi.
Mo?ete li, molim vas, pojasniti ?ta ta?no, osim gorepomenutog selfija, jo? uvek nedostaje? Pored toga, koji su trenutni problemi koji vas spre?avaju da prihvatite ve? dostavljena dokumenta?
Da li biste bili otvoreni za obavljanje verifikacionog poziva sa igra?em kao alternativni na?in zavr?etka procesa verifikacije?
Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Dear MrWest Casino,
According to the available information, the player has already submitted the requested documents in line with your requirements. The photos are also visible in the complaint thread, with the exception of the requested selfie holding the proof of address.
Could you please clarify exactly what, aside from the aforementioned selfie, is still missing? Additionally, what are the current issues preventing you from accepting the documents already provided?
Would you be open to conducting a verification call with the player as an alternative means of completing the verification process?
Thank you for your response.
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Hvala Kubo. Tako?e mi je potrebno poja?njenje u vezi sa slede?im (?to sam ve? nekoliko puta tra?io poja?njenje)
1 - Prethodno sam otpremio dokaz o adresi (ra?un za komunalije - objavljeno. Poslao sam sliku). Ovo je verifikovano zajedno sa mojim li?nim dokumentom i prethodnim selfijem (zato je prilo?ena e-po?ta od vas u kojoj se ka?e da je moj ra?un verifikovan). Zatim sam imao isplate i uplate bez problema. Prilikom slede?eg isplate, tra?ili ste sve ove nove stvari. Moj novi dokaz o adresi ste tra?ili u PDF formatu. Tako da sam preuzeo svoj bankovni izvod direktno iz moje AIB kancelarije. Snimio sam svoj ekran dok to radim i otpremio ga na svoju e-po?tu i poslao vam ga u realnom vremenu. (Morao sam ranije da uradim ISTO sa li?nim dokumentom jer ste stalno govorili da sam promenio metapodatke na njemu. Nisam). Da li je moj AIB bankovni izvod prihva?en? Ako nije, za?to? Prethodno ste u e-po?tama tra?ili da selfi sa dokazom o adresi bude isti. Sada gore ka?ete druga?iji? Imam samo ra?un za komunalije i bankovni izvod. Imam i telefonski ra?un za svoja tri telefona? Koji dokaz o adresi vam je potreban i koji selfi vam je potreban uz njega?
Thanks kubo. Also need clarification on the following (Which i've asked for clarifty on a number of times'
1 - I previously uploaded a proof of address (Utility Bill - Posted. Sent a picture) This was verified along with my ID and previous selfie (Hence the attached email from you saying my account was verified). I then had withdrawals and deposits no issues. On a subsequent withdrawal you then asked for all these new things. My new proof of address you asked for in PDF. So I downloaded my bank statement directly from my AIB back office. I recorded my screen of me doing this and uploading it to my email and sending it to you in real time. (I had to do THIS SAME THING with ID previously as you kept saying I had changed meta on it. I had not). Has my AIB bank statement been accepted? If not then why? You previously requested in emails that the selfie holding the proof of address needs to be the same one. Now you say above different one? I only have my utility Bill and my bank statement. I have a phone bill as well for my three phone? Which proof of address do you need and which selfie do you need with it?
Po?to se proces verifikacije sprovodi u skladu sa na?im internim politikama i regulatornim zahtevima, igra? ?e morati da sledi uputstva na?eg posve?enog tima, ?to sam tako?e pomenuo u svom prethodnom odgovoru.
Fotografije koje nam je igra? do sada direktno poslao su sve odbijene i igra?u je nalo?eno da napravi nove fotografije (one treba da sadr?e sve relevantne exif informacije i jasno pokazuju da su snimljene nakon na?eg zahteva) i da ih dostavi. Ponovo uklju?ujem listu radi reference:
Fotografija novog dokumenta kao dokaza o adresi (ovo mora biti druga?iji dokument, ne onaj koji je prethodno dostavljen) izdatog u poslednja 3 meseca, na kojem je navedeno ime igra?a, puna ku?na adresa i jasan datum izdavanja. Za ovaj konkretni odeljak prihvataju se slede?i tipovi dokumenata: ra?un za struju, ra?un za gas, ra?un za vodu, izvod iz banke ili poreski izvod;
Selfi igra?a koji dr?i dokaz o adresi - ovo mora biti novi dokaz o adresi koji je tra?en;
Selfi igra?ice koja dr?i paso? pored lica.
Srda?an pozdrav,
Eva Stoun
?ef za korisni?ko iskustvo
Kazino MrWest
Dear Kubo,
Thank you for your response!
As the verification process is conducted in line with our internal policies and regulatory requirements, the player will need to follow the instructions given by our dedicated team, which I have also mentioned in my previous reply.
The photos the player has sent directly to our so far have all been rejected and the player has been instructed to take new photos (these should have all the relevant exif information and clearly show that they were taken after our request) and provide them. I am including the list again for reference:
Photo of a new Proof of Address document (this needs to be different document, not one previously provided) issued in the last 3 months, showing the player's name, full home address and a clear date of issue. For this specific section the following document types are accepted: electricity bill, gas bill, water bill, bank statement or tax statement;
Selfie of the player holding the Proof of Address - this needs to be the new Proof of Address that was requested;
Selfie of the player holding the passport next to her face.
Warm regards,
Eva Stone
Head of Customer Experience
MrWest Casino
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Ponovo, ovaj odgovor ignori?e sve ta?ke koje pokre?em/prethodne zahteve koje su postavili? Ovo je o?igledno namerno od strane gospodina Vesta (tj. Vest Kejna, i razlog za?to su ostali bez MGA).
1 - Prethodno sam otpremio dokaz o adresi (ra?un za komunalije - objavljeno. Poslao sam sliku). Ovo je verifikovano zajedno sa mojim li?nim dokumentom i prethodnim selfijem (zato je prilo?ena e-po?ta od vas u kojoj se ka?e da je moj ra?un verifikovan). Zatim sam imao isplate i uplate bez problema. Prilikom slede?eg isplate, tra?ili ste sve ove nove stvari. Moj novi dokaz o adresi ste tra?ili u PDF formatu. Tako da sam preuzeo svoj bankovni izvod direktno iz moje AIB kancelarije. Snimio sam svoj ekran dok to radim i otpremio ga na svoju e-po?tu i poslao vam ga u realnom vremenu. (Morao sam ranije da uradim ISTO sa li?nim dokumentom jer ste stalno govorili da sam promenio metapodatke na njemu. Nisam). Da li je moj AIB bankovni izvod prihva?en? Ako nije, za?to? Prethodno ste u e-po?tama tra?ili da selfi sa dokazom o adresi bude isti. Sada gore ka?ete druga?iji? Imam samo ra?un za komunalije i bankovni izvod. Imam i telefonski ra?un za svoja tri telefona? Koji dokaz o adresi vam je potreban i koji selfi vam je potreban uz njega?
2 - Kazino Guru, koji EXIF ??itd. je promenjen na dokumentima koje sam ovde otpremio i dostavio? Mo?ete li vi ili gospodin Vest dati bilo kakav dokaz za to? (Shvatam da ne tvrdite da sam ja to uradio).
3 - Nemam drugi dokaz o adresama sa moje prethodne irske adrese osim ra?una za komunalne usluge (KOJI JE WHICH WEST PRVOBITNO PRIHVATIO) i izvoda iz banke AIB (koji sam preuzeo i snimio video dok to radim i otpremio video. Jo? uvek nema poja?njenja da li je ovo prihva?eno ili odbijeno, razlozi??). Imam stari ra?un za vodu poslat na tu adresu koji je jo? uvek va?e?i? Da li ?e ovo biti dovoljno?
4 - Trenutno se zbog majke selim izme?u Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva i povratka u ?vedsku. Tako da nisam ba? siguran kakvu relevantnost sada ima dokaz o adresi, s obzirom da mi zakup isti?e krajem juna?
5 - Mogu da snimim video i da vam ga postavim ako ?elite? Da li bi ovo pomoglo? Ili mogu da obavim video poziv? Nisam siguran u ?emu su problemi ovde jer sam prethodno bio verifikovan i isplate nisu bile problem. Sada ste odjednom po?eli da se pona?ate veoma nejasno i onemogu?avate verifikaciju uprkos tome ?to sam poslao svu dokumentaciju (i vi?e!), ali vi stalno tvrdite da nisu u pravu...
Gospodin Vest kontinuirano ignori?e moje argumente/zahteve za poja?njenje zbog njihovih suprotstavljenih zahteva, ne?e pomo?i da se ova ?alba re?i. Ali ?E pomo?i gospodinu Vestu da nastavi da poku?ava kra?u. Ponudio sam da napravim video snimke za verifikaciju, tako?e sam se snimao kako slikam, otpremam slike, preuzimam izvode iz banke i ?aljem ih direktno imejlom gospodinu Vestu (CG je poslala ove video snimke).... Igra? ovde ne mo?e ni?ta drugo da uradi.
Again, this response ignores all the points I am raising/the previous requests they made? This is clearly deliberate from Mr West (aka West caino, and the reason they were run out of MGA).
1 - I previously uploaded a proof of address (Utility Bill - Posted. Sent a picture) This was verified along with my ID and previous selfie (Hence the attached email from you saying my account was verified). I then had withdrawals and deposits no issues. On a subsequent withdrawal you then asked for all these new things. My new proof of address you asked for in PDF. So I downloaded my bank statement directly from my AIB back office. I recorded my screen of me doing this and uploading it to my email and sending it to you in real time. (I had to do THIS SAME THING with ID previously as you kept saying I had changed meta on it. I had not). Has my AIB bank statement been accepted? If not then why? You previously requested in emails that the selfie holding the proof of address needs to be the same one. Now you say above different one? I only have my utility Bill and my bank statement. I have a phone bill as well for my three phone? Which proof of address do you need and which selfie do you need with it?
2 - Casino Guru, what EXIF etc has been changed on the documents I have uploaded here and provided? Can you or Mr West provide any proof of this? ( I realise you are not claiming I have done this).
3 - I have no other proof of addresses from my previous Irish address other then my utility bill (WHICH WEST ORIGINALLY ACCEPTED) and my AIB bank statement (Which I downloaded and did a video of me doing so and uploaded a video of. Still no clarification on if this was accepted or declined, reasons??). I have an old posted water bill to that address which is still in date? Will this do?
4 - I am between the UK and moving back to Sweden now due to my mother. So I'm not really sure what relevance the proof of address now has as my lease is up at the end of June?
5 - I can record a video and upload it to you if you like? Would this help? Or I can do a video call? I am not sure of the issues here as I was previously verified and withdrawals were no issue. You have now suddenly begun to act in a very obtuse way and making it impossible to verify despite me sending in all the docs (and more!) but you keep claiming they are wrong...
Mr West continuously ignoring my points/requests for clarification due to their conflicting requests, won't help this complaint get resolved. But it WILL help Mr West continue to attempt theft. I have offered to do verification videos, I have also filmed myself taking pics, uploading pics, downloading bank statements and emailing them directly to Mr West (CG have these videos sent to them).... There is nothing else a player can do here.
Prema dostavljenim podacima, igra?ica je dostavila izvod iz banke kao dokaz o adresi, u skladu sa va?im navedenim zahtevima. Pored toga, prilo?ila je video koji pokazuje kako je dokument direktno izvezen sa njenog internet bankarskog naloga, jasno potvr?uju?i autenti?nost i izvor datoteke.
S obzirom na to, nije nam jasno za?to izjava nije prihva?ena. Da li biste mogli da pojasnite konkretne razloge za njeno odbijanje?
Unapred hvala na va?em odgovoru.
Dragi mudra?e ,
?to se ti?e fotografija kojima nedostaju EXIF ??podaci, mo?ete li, molim vas, dati vi?e detalja o tome kako su slike obra?ene? Konkretno:
Koji ure?aj ste koristili za snimanje fotografija?
Da li ste ih prilo?ili imejlu direktno sa telefona?
Da li su slike izvezene, ure?ene ili konvertovane pomo?u neke aplikacije pre nego ?to su poslate u kazino?
Va?e poja?njenje ?e nam pomo?i da bolje razumemo problem i da vam efikasnije pomognemo.
Hvala unapred.
Dear MrWest Casino,
According to the data provided, the player submitted a bank statement as proof of address, in line with your stated requirements. Additionally, she included a video demonstrating how the document was exported directly from her internet banking account, clearly verifying the authenticity and source of the file.
Given this, we are unclear as to why the statement has not been accepted. Could you kindly clarify the specific reasons for its rejection?
Thank you in advance for your response.
Dear sageirsword,
Regarding the photos with missing EXIF data, could you please provide more detail about how the images were handled? Specifically:
What device did you use to take the photos?
Did you attach them to the email directly from your phone?
Were the images exported, edited, or converted using any app before being sent to the casino?
Your clarification will help us better understand the issue and assist you more effectively.
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