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11 m?nader sedan

Det h?r ?r verkligen att ha problem med ins?ttningar p? ett kasino, att ha undanh?llit pengar fr?n ditt konto och att ha haft problem med uttag, att ha ?ppnat konton med vetskap om att du har problem med spelande, utan problem med fall av sj?lvmord, till och med att ha kunnat spela minder?riga, ?r de verkligen inte kasinorepresentanter? file Och skadan ?r v?ldigt allvarlig, det spelar ingen roll, jag tycker att man ska ha lite etik?

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Anonymized669
11 m?nader sedan

Dear vicente2013,

I told you that the casino would improve its system, and they already did. Your deposit from the 3rd account was refunded to the same wallet as before. If you try to create an account now, the casino will block you.

11 m?nader sedan

Och skadan som orsakats upprepade g?nger?

Och de skador som hittills har orsakats av v?rdsl?shet med tragiska resultat?

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Anonymized669
11 m?nader sedan

I believe I get what you are trying to say. Yet still, I believe it would make little sense to punish casinos for something that is no longer possible. In order to keep others informed, the Safety Index should be lowered or a warning added to reflect the current circumstances.

Additionally, thanks to your active approach, many players have a fair chance to get familiar with your experiences, and assess potential risks.

11 m?nader sedan

F?r dig kommer Radka att ha liten betydelse, med all respekt, f?r mig betyder det mycket att i samh?llet, den som har beg?tt ett brott betalar f?r den skada som orsakats, s?rskilt med ett tragiskt slut, ?ven om ?tg?rder vidtas.

Och sanningen ?r att det ?r sv?rt f?r andra akt?rer att ta reda p? n?r den verkliga situationen som har upplevts inte tydligt framg?r h?r, n?r s?kerhetsindexet inte modifieras och framf?r allt inte publiceras recensioner som f?rklarar sanningen.

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11 m?nader sedan

D?rf?r ?r ?rendet f?r mig inte avslutat och jag h?ller inte heller med om hur det har avslutats. M?rkligt nog g?rs ingen kommentar om detta i resolutionen, eftersom huvudoffret ?r totalt emot resolutionen.

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Anonymized669
11 m?nader sedan

Actually, I have little to add.

In my opinion, we have explained all we could. We've been very open to you. The casino has changed the system, probably thanks to your persistence. You got the refunds even from the 3rd account.

Thus, from our perspective, the complaint is closed. I'm sorry you disagree; there is no reason to keep the complaint open - its process has reached the final stage.

Moral principles, or other truths, as you prefer to say, are available here on the forum, since this is the place for debates. Anyone is welcome to read your complaint, or your perfectly visible forum posts. Nothing has been hidden.

End from my side, I guess.




11 m?nader sedan

Jag h?ller helt med ditt perspektiv, men med all respekt fr?n och med detta ?gonblick kommer jag att ta andra v?gar n?r allt ?r helt klart fr?n b?rjan till slut.

Jag vill bara tacka dig f?r att tack vare dig har olagligheterna i detta kasino kommit fram, den enda fl?cken som du aldrig har l?tit mig f?rklara ?r all olaglighet som detta kasino har beg?tt med sina kunder fram till nu genom att avvisa mina recensioner och ?ndrar inte s?kerhetsindexet. som jag varken f?rst?r eller n?gonsin kommer att f?rst?, inte ens specialister och proffs inom detta omr?de som hj?lper mig f?rst?r.

fr?n och med nu??????

ett kasinomysterium

F?r min del antar jag inget mer heller.

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Anonymized669
11 m?nader sedan

There is actually something worth mentioning, and it could also have been a part of your dissatisfaction.

Allow me to mention just one thing: posting comments on the forum about anything you believe any casino has done wrong is preferable to doing so specifically for a user review. The "crime" or unfair behavior must be proven in order for the user review to be made public, particularly if there is a complaint attached.

In spite of this, the review needs to include a sufficient quantity of information; otherwise, the community will not really benefit from it.

I checked your reviews, would you say this text is informative?

"I have only had problems with this casino and it ruined my life."


"This casino was about to end my life and almost drove me to suicide, with that, it is all said above, recognizing its mistake and its guilt, refusing to pay for its true consequences safety index 0 casino guru knows perfectly well my experience with velobet.com and It has all the evidence that is why I hope my review is published because it is my real experience, thank you."


Through the explanation provided, we attempted to advise you on how to proceed with the review.

"Hello, thank you for your review. I can see you rated the casino pretty low. Could you please share more details about the issue at the casino so it will be helpful for other players as well?"

I truly don't want to oppose you - if only you tried to submit a decent user review with a true value, preferably from a single account - not more than one. It has a fair chance of being approved then.

Thank you for your time and dedication. You have done a great deal of good through the complaint, and I wish you only the best.

11 m?nader sedan

F?rl?t, men f?r att vara ?rlig, publicera alla de som jag har skickat som du har avvisat och i recensioner eftersom du ?r desperat eftersom du inte accepterade n?gon av dem och jag visste att du inte skulle acceptera dem och m?nga med information om mina problem med uttagen. ins?ttningar och framf?r allt ansvarsfullt spelande, jag tror att det finns tillr?ckligt med bevis, som ni har visat er sj?lva, att ni vet det mycket v?l och att ni ?r perfekt informerade, annars finns det inget intresse av att publicera dem d?r spelarna ska informeras i recensioner.

Du vet att de har brutit mot lagen och utnyttjat s?rbara spelare och samma s?kerhetsindex forts?tter och du har varit helt medveten om allt.

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Anonymized669
11 m?nader sedan

Saying anything more would only serve to continue this circle. Everything has been explained to you very openly.

I regret to see that you are unable to move past your own viewpoint.

Thank you for your contribution.



11 m?nader sedan

Det f?rl?ter inte, jag kan inte komma ?ver det NEJ, du har inte f?tt mig att komma ?ver min synvinkel och den som led av situationen var jag och det var tragiskt.

men tja, min ?sikt ?r att du ?r mer p? casinots sida ?n av de utsatta spelarna. Mitt fall, min erfarenhet och min helt personliga ?sikt har lett mig till min synpunkt, annars hade detta inte st?ngts s? h?r, INGENTING ALLS var ?ppet f?rklarat. och f?r dig ?r det en cirkel, f?r mig ?r det en st?ngning av mitt klagom?l utan svar och utan att betala f?r de olagligheter som beg?tts, f?r bakom detta finns m?nga ?verraskande saker.

Men jag upprepar, allt ?r min personliga och respektabla ?sikt, b?de min och andras ?r lika respektabel, ?ven om min inte ?r s?rskilt respekterad.

Jag vill bara tacka dig f?r allt du har unders?kt och f?r dina resultat som uppn?tts ?ven genom att vidta mycket f? ?tg?rder.

Nu ska jag forts?tta p? en annan v?g som jag hoppas och jag tror att om jag har mer st?d f?r att forts?tta k?mpa f?r laglighet ?ven om det inte blir n?got, vem vet s? ska jag f?rs?ka se till att allt ?r k?nt, allt.

Tack.


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Anonymized669
11 m?nader sedan

I'll try to mention aspects the whole team was considering when we were discussing your case, they might be of interest, and I'll leave that to you.

Mainly, we are not lawyers here, we do not represent or substitute laws. I understand you aim for compensation, as you said "the illegalities committed" - this is something we have no authority to get involved in. Yet I understand that, from your perspective, it's something you've attached to achieving. One way or another, I hope you will be satisfied in the end.

The next part is quite complex, but still, understanding the background is important:

Currently, almost all operators operate under a license that defines the rules and scope of self-exclusion. Moreover, virtually all operators offer some sort of self-exclusion to their players, whose scope is highly dependent on regulatory requirements and decisions of individual operators.

There are currently two basic levels of self-exclusion:

Single-operator level: Typically, when self-excluding in an online casino, the self-exclusion does not extend to other operators. This creates a problem: self-excluded players can freely access and play at other casino websites, bringing the overall effectiveness of such self-exclusion schemes into question.

Nationwide/license-wide level: Some countries and online gambling regulators, such as the UK, Sweden, or the Netherlands, operate wider self-exclusion schemes, which require their licensees (operators) to be part of nationwide (license-wide) self-exclusion schemes. These allow players to self-exclude from all casinos licensed in a specific country or by a specific regulator at once, creating a better level of protection.

As of this moment, a player struggling with problem gambling symptoms cannot self-exclude on a global scale. This means that although the player self-excludes on one of the above-mentioned levels, there are still many ways in which players can bypass these self-imposed measures.

It should be noted, in a more thorough version of the previous overview, that every platform, casino operator, and brand has a unique approach to the self exclusion tools. There is not a definitive guide or rule outlining how everyone should go about doing that. As a result, we are unable to establish a baseline by which we could assess the caliber of the options that are provided. While some casinos only keep track of emails as personal information, others offer a "short registration form."

If we had punished this casino for what has been done but is no longer possible, we would also have to start punishing many others, even though we would not have a decent methodology for doing so. I can promise you that you have reopened this conversation, but this is not the direction we are ready to take today.

Now, in order to fill this void, we offer the forum in addition to user reviews or complaints.

I appreciate your well-meaning intentions.

11 m?nader sedan

Titta Radka, den f?rsta sj?lvuteslutningen p? grund av spelberoende var hos samma operat?r velobet.com som ignorerade det och till?t SAMMA OPERAT?R att forts?tta spela med katastrofala konsekvenser som en domare m?ste m?ta

och de universella reglerna f?r ett kasino ?r att skydda utsatta spelare, minder?riga och penningtv?tt, varje kasino kan ha sina regler men ovan ?r lagen

du har inte straffat honom f?r att du inte har velat ha dina sk?l du kommer att ha ?terupptagit fallet med bevis p? dess olaglighet det ?r d?rf?r du ?ppnade det igen och unders?kte och kom fram till att de var skyldiga

Du g?r spelare en bj?rntj?nst i allm?nhet f?r f?rutom en l?g s?kerhetsgrad har min erfarenhet visat att det var problem med ins?ttningar och uttag.

Jag vill bara att de ska betala f?r sina bevisade olagliga handlingar och hj?lpa spelare som inte g?r igenom samma sak.

Jag f?rklarade mig ?ppet

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11 m?nader sedan

Och jag upprepar mitt tack till casinoguru f?r att ha demonstrerat olagligheterna som beg?tts av velobet.com, nu varken vet eller ?r jag intresserad l?ngre, om de forts?tter p? samma s?tt har jag gjort allt f?r att s?kerst?lla att denna olaglighet stoppas och alla spelare informeras med alla de hinder som jag har funnit mestadels recensionspublikationer eftersom mycket av skadan redan har skett och det ?r gjort.

Tack s? mycket.

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Anonymized669
11 m?nader sedan

Thank you as well; take care, and best wishes on your honorable campaign!

You are welcome to start your own thread here in the forum to keep others updated on your progress. I wanted to let you know in case you were interested in doing so.

11 m?nader sedan

Tack men jag tror att det inte kommer att beh?vas. Jag ?r s?ker p? att du kommer att f? reda p? fallets utveckling samtidigt som jag g?r det.

Och det kommer att vara upp till dig att ge information till spelargemenskapen tydligt ?????.

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Anonymized669
11 m?nader sedan

Well, the "case" has been closed. I can hardly inform others on your behalf. I do not even know what you plan to do next.

11 m?nader sedan

Jag f?rv?ntade mig inget mindre ?n att du skulle neka mig ?ter?ppningen, jag hade redan assimilerat det.

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10 m?nader sedan

Hallo

Velobet is one the best bookie able in many countries. Fast deposits and whidrawals, very professional support able 24h and answering very fast. Many sports able to play, even table tennis. I hardly recommend this bookie and casino. I dont see how can I give my Mark but its max so 10/10 or 5/5 stars

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